Hillary's fatal mistake, attacking Reagan.

[Blarch]

The media missed it again. The meat of the story isn't about Obama invoking Reagan, the meat is Hillary taking the bait and attacking people who might vote for her, the independents, moderates, fence sitters, Reagan Democrats, Dixiecrats, and Blue dog types. Obama set the bait and she took it. It was so brilliant that he made her go against her own agenda. Hillary knows the importance of these voters, and probably wants to take back her words.

Last week a new category of voters burst on the scene: the “Blue Dog” Democrats, conservative independents and moderates who turned on the scandal-ridden bungling Republicans. The future political map of America depends on whether the victorious Democrats can hold on to their support in 2008.

Terry McAuliffe, former chairman of the Democratic national committee, is already preparing for Hillary Clinton’s likely presidential run. He believes the midterm results represent a potentially historic shift for his party.

“It was a ‘throw the Republicans out’ election. Some people voted for us reluctantly but we have a terrific opportunity to get back the Reagan Democrats we lost in the 1980s,” he said. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2450119,00.html



Some more background...

WASHINGTON - Ronald Reagan and Reaganism were blows from which the Democratic Party has not fully recovered in the 24 years since his election.

In the five presidential elections since Reagan’s 1980 victory, Democratic candidates have managed to win, on average, 45 percent of the popular vote. They have averaged 228 electoral votes (270 are needed to win the White House). This is not an encouraging historical trend for the Democratic Party.

What was it that Reagan did to the Democrats?....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5151912/


The left wing members that make up the majority of DU might have a problem with this, but the reality is that the road to the WH travels through the south. Let us not ignore the importance of this group of voters, remember, if Gore would have won Tennessee, he would have been president.

[MADem]

1. That is the funniest fucking subject line I've seen today!!!

:rofl:

I'll have what you're smoking!!!

:rofl:

Anyone who ardently supported Reagan and who still thinks his legacy was anything but a sham wouldn't vote for Clinton anyway.

Ten points for amusement, but we'll deduct ten for faulty logic!

[Blarch]

3. Attacking the messenger ?

The HRC campaign agrees with me, read the links.

[MADem]

16. Who's attacking? I'm laughing not WITH your subject line, but AT it!

And trying to shop OLD links from two years ago like they mean something? From a right wing tool paper across the pond?

You're unsubtle, there, Sunshine. A rank amateur!

Off to the wading pool with you--you aren't ready for the deep end at all.

:rofl:

[democrat in Tallahassee]

2. The young people don't even know who Reagan is nor do they

care. The future of the democratic party does not lay in those who supported Reagan 30 years ago but in the young folks who are seeing what happened under Bush.

[Blarch]

5. Ya,

you must be talking about all those young dixiecrats in Florida :eyes:

[Mythsaje]

4. Excuse me...

:puke:

The stench from Reagan's dead ass that so many people have been kissing lately is becoming a legendary stink around here.

Can we just re-bury the stinking corpse now?

[ccpup]

6. yeah, it really hurt her in NV

where she scored solidly with every group but African-Americans (who went with Obama by 80%) and won the State. If attacking a ridiculously stupid thing Obama said was gonna hurt her, it would have done so on Caucus Day in Nevada. It didn't.

It may have hurt Obama, though.

[Blarch]

7. WTF

No really...WTF

You are implying there is a large group of Dixiecrats or Reagan Democrats in NV. Jeeeesh, go lay down by the dog

[Jawja]

12. It hurt Obama with me.

A candidate trying to win the Democratic Nomination for President makes a mistake when he glorifies Reagan. The time to reach out to the "Reagan Democrats" (as if there could be any such of a thing) would be after the nomination is won and the candidate is trying to broaden the base of support for votes.

It was a mistake by Obama; not a shrewd move to bait Hillary Clinton.

[hlthe2b]

8. the West is emerging rapidly as a counter to the South's influence

The days of the Repug Southern Strategy's success are numbered (or hopefully over).

[Blarch]

10. I am pointing out

that the HRC campaign thinks ....“It was a ‘throw the Republicans out’ election. Some people voted for us reluctantly but we have a terrific opportunity to get back the Reagan Democrats we lost in the 1980s,”

And Obama made them attack those very people.

What ever the fuck you think, it is a fact the HRC was reaching out to these people, per Terry McAuliffe ...and that Obama made her attack these very people. Point Obama.

[hlthe2b]

11. Support Reagan all you want... I want my candidate to tell the truth

Reagan's policies started us on this horrendous economic devastation that Clinton turned around during the 90s, only to have GWB and his repug Reagan-loving brethren bring back in force.

Not all voters remain suckered by the Reagan myth-- it behooves us not to propagate it.

[mondo joe]

9. Her other fatal mistake: being pro choice.

She ought to just be anti-choice so she'll appeal in the South.


:eyes:

[rodeodance]

15. yeah--shows the futility of some of the comments in IP

[MGKrebs]

13. What did I miss? Clinton attacked Reagan?

I must have been distracted by all the "Clinton is just like Bush" posts.

[rodeodance]

14. I think Gore had others problems other than TN being 'south"-few either mention

this.

.......The left wing members that make up the majority of DU might have a problem with this, but the reality is that the road to the WH travels through the south. Let us not ignore the importance of this group of voters, remember, if Gore would have won Tennessee, he would have been president.