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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:55 AM
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The dark side of the other white meat.
Boss Hog

America's top pork producer churns out a sea of waste that has destroyed rivers, killed millions of fish and generated one of the largest fines in EPA history. Welcome to the dark side of the other white meat.


JEFF TIETZ

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/12840743/porks_dirty_secret_the_nations_top_hog_producer_is_also_one_of_americas_worst_polluters/1

Smithfield Foods, the largest and most profitable pork processor in the world, killed 27 million hogs last year. That's a number worth considering. A slaughter-weight hog is fifty percent heavier than a person. The logistical challenge of processing that many pigs each year is roughly equivalent to butchering and boxing the entire human populations of New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Philadelphia, Phoenix, San Antonio, San Diego, Dallas, San Jose, Detroit, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, San Francisco, Columbus, Austin, Memphis, Baltimore, Fort Worth, Charlotte, El Paso, Milwaukee, Seattle, Boston, Denver, Louisville, Washington, D.C., Nashville, Las Vegas, Portland, Oklahoma City and Tucson.

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Smithfield estimates that its total sales will reach $11.4 billion this year. So prodigious is its fecal waste, however, that if the company treated its effluvia as big-city governments do -- even if it came marginally close to that standard -- it would lose money. So many of its contractors allow great volumes of waste to run out of their slope-floored barns and sit blithely in the open, untreated, where the elements break it down and gravity pulls it into groundwater and river systems. Although the company proclaims a culture of environmental responsibility, ostentatious pollution is a linchpin of Smithfield's business model.

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The temperature inside hog houses is often hotter than ninety degrees. The air, saturated almost to the point of precipitation with gases from shit and chemicals, can be lethal to the pigs. Enormous exhaust fans run twenty-four hours a day. The ventilation systems function like the ventilators of terminal patients: If they break down for any length of time, pigs start dying.

From Smithfield's point of view, the problem with this lifestyle is immunological. Taken together, the immobility, poisonous air and terror of confinement badly damage the pigs' immune systems. They become susceptible to infection, and in such dense quarters microbes or parasites or fungi, once established in one pig, will rush spritelike through the whole population. Accordingly, factory pigs are infused with a huge range of antibiotics and vaccines, and are doused with insecticides. Without these compounds -- oxytetracycline, draxxin, ceftiofur, tiamulin -- diseases would likely kill them. Thus factory-farm pigs remain in a state of dying until they're slaughtered. When a pig nearly ready to be slaughtered grows ill, workers sometimes shoot it up with as many drugs as necessary to get it to the slaughterhouse under its own power. As long as the pig remains ambulatory, it can be legally killed and sold as meat.





Please read the whole thing. It's unbelievable. Smithfiels and Luter need to pay for what they have done. And now they want to do it elsewhere.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:57 AM
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1. I've decided that the only pork/ham I'll eat is organic
I love pork but that article absolutely disgusted me. THere were pictures way grosser than what you posted in the magazine.

I'm not about to give up meat, I enjoy it and especially pork. But I'll spend a bit extra for something that is a bit more humane than what these companies produce
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:14 AM
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4. If not organic
Than at least look for pastured and ethically raised meat. It's out there.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:24 AM
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7. I read that magazine.
I read it yesterday at work and was so grossed out. It's not just humane issues but the environmental issues that gross me out.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:54 PM
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32. Whole Foods have delicious pork
From farms where they live in the fields with shelters and straw to make bedding. I willingly pay more for farmers like that.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:53 PM
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33. I don't live near a Whole Foods but we have a place called Food Source
Which is pretty much the same concept
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:59 PM
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47. I heard today they are merging with Wild Oats
big news here in Colorado...
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:01 AM
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2. Precisely why I don't eat non-organic meat
And it is no small wonder that spinach and other veggies are tainted with crap, literally! Maybe the pig poop got in the peanuts? Seriously?
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:20 PM
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14. I t could be.
Nothing is safe anymore. Plus all the drugs these animal takes are ending up in the environment for all of us.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:55 PM
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23. I got horrible food poisoning from organic roast beef.
Pumping meat full of antibiotics isn't good, but you can't necessarily go completely organic, either.
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Totallybushed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:04 AM
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3. Obviously they
should be made to clean up their act.

But I will still eat pork. Ham, bacon, chops, roasts, barbecue, and ribs. I love them all.

Pork is the most versatile of all meats, culinarily. At least in my opinion. Also, in my opinion, it is the single tastiest.

All that still doesn't excuse Smithfield, of course.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:02 PM
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15. Smithfield should be charged criminally for what they are doing.
They're killing the environment. I can't believe that those animal pumped full of drug and doused with pesticides are safe to eat either.
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Totallybushed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:12 PM
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28. Safe?
I don't know. There are those that will tell you pork, or any animal fat for that matter, is unsafe.

But I say screw 'em on that. What's going on here is another matter. I can choose whether to eat pork, or not, but the water we drink, the air we breathe, etc. is beyond our control.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:17 AM
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5. I worked in a pork processing plant...
...when I was in my early twenties for about a month (Dubuque in South San Francisco.)

I haven't eaten a pork product since...

I watched cancerous meat being routinely thrown into the hot dog vat, had the soles of my shoes dissolve within about a week due to the nitrates in the bacon "cure," watched as the FDA inspector walked the lines for all of 10 minutes every morning while drinking his cup of coffee then to disappear for the rest of the day into his small office doing god knows what.

To top it all off this Dubuque plant was considered "state of the art" for quality and cleanliness.

If people only knew...
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mitchleary Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:25 AM
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8. Gross
I am so glad i gave up eating meat.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:23 AM
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6. great article. I don't do pork
or other meat. I don't have a problem with the idea that people eat meat, but for environmental and ethical reasons, I wish factory farming would stop, and that people would be more reasonable with their consumption, and that applies to everything.

I'm glad more and more people are at least trying to buy more organic and free range if they are going to eat it though.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:27 AM
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9. All the more reason to support small local and preferably organic farmers.
How f*cking horrendous. Pigs are said to have a similar intellect to that of humans. I think they have us beat personally. :cry:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:53 PM
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21. Better yet, stop eating meat altogether. nt
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:57 PM
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24. I did that for a couple years actually.
I would not rule out doing so again.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:00 PM
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26. It was the meat industry and the damage it was doing to
the environment, rural economies, workers and animals that drove me to stop eating the stuff. And I don't miss it.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:32 PM
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30. I missed it when I smelled it cooking. My husband is a meat lover.
I got tired of cooking three different dinners as well. And I didn't want to confuse my child about what to eat etc. I felt like explaining my apprehensions about meat would turn her off to it, and I was not entirely comfortable with that.

I never gave up eggs or dairy, just flesh including fish.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:30 AM
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10. kick
nt
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:38 AM
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11. Now I got to get a BLT. I love bacon......



But more seriously, pork producers really do have to be more environmentally conscious.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:56 AM
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13. They should have to pay the full price of clean up their mess.
I just wonder what the price would/should be for something like this:

"The biggest spill in the history of corporate hog farming happened in 1995. The dike of a 120,000-square-foot lagoon owned by a Smithfield competitor ruptured, releasing 25.8 million gallons of effluvium into the headwaters of the New River in North Carolina. It was the biggest environmental spill in United States history, more than twice as big as the Exxon Valdez oil spill six years earlier. The sludge was so toxic it burned your skin if you touched it, and so dense it took almost two months to make its way sixteen miles downstream to the ocean. From the headwaters to the sea, every creature living in the river was killed. Fish died by the millions."
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:54 PM
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22. MORE environmentally conscious?!!!
:rofl: :rofl:
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:38 AM
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12. I don't eat pork or beef
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 11:40 AM by JitterbugPerfume
I like meat , but my conscience will not allow me to consume it

i am however, a living contradiction because I eat chicken and fish

WE have a brand spanking new Organic Mkt in our town ( we have joined the 19th century LOL)

Can't wait to see what they offer
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:09 PM
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16. What, no PETA bashers?
Maybe I'm being impatient.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:27 PM
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17. Disturbing article...Wonder how the Sheeple would react if this were in the MSM...
..and not just Rolling Stone?

Think it would change anyone's mind?

I dunno, but that article is scary...

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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:03 PM
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34. I was wondering that too.
I suppose we will never know because I don't think it will ever be covered in the M$M. Maybe if the media were in so few hands. That would have to change first.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:39 PM
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18. Thank God - I'm allergic to pork and never eat it.
Sickening.

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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:51 PM
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19. But the toxic environment can still get you.
All the death this is causing to the environment can mess us all up. I don't eat pork or any meat either but I didn't really understand how enormously destructive this is to the environment.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:52 PM
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20. This isn't news. Iowans have been fighting "Big Hog" for a long time. nt
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:59 PM
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25. This article isn't that old. It was the Dec.2006 issue of Rolling Stone.
And it wasn't discussed DU before. I searched to see if it was first. It not like I posted it in LBN. :shrug: I put it in GD for general discussion not to pretend it to be news.

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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:02 PM
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27. Sorry, didn't mean to be snarky. It's just that many of us have been fighting
the meat industry for years, with no support from politicians, the parties, or the public in general. So, I get annoyed when people act like they didn't know these things were going on. We've been trying to get the word out.

Really, I'm glad you posted this. People need to know!!
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:26 PM
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29. I honestly didn't know.
I knew about the inhumane conditions that farm animals endure. I know how big beef and pork are trying to take everything for themselves and kill off small farmers. I didn't know how successful they have become. I had no idea it had gotten this bad. I had no idea the environment is at such a risk from this too. I just by chance read Rolling Stone last night at work and was shocked. I'm sure there are a lot of others out there like me who just have no clue, but would be quite pissed off.
The only farming around here is apples and cranberries.

It's too bad these kinds of stories don't make it on 60 minutes or some show like that.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:37 PM
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31. I don't care what you say. It is god-damn delicious...

but i buy mostly local and organic to be safe...

Happy year of the pig!!

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:24 PM
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35. Mmm...selfishness trumps...well, everything once again
Bravo!!! Fuck 'em, it tastes good.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:03 PM
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36. oh jesus.
yes. i am personally sending the world to hell with my trader joes uncured all natural BLT every 3 or 4 weeks.
what a selfish fucking jerk i am.

things are getting a bit sanctimonious around here, no?
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:17 PM
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39. Just a hint
"All natural" has almost no legal restrictions on it's use. I've got a bottle of 7Up in front of me that says it's "100% natural" for pity's sake. You're paying a premium for factory farmed meat in a fancier package.

I'm not a big fan of the whole "happy meat" concept because most of it is marketing bullshit, but you're not even getting that much for your money.

PS Pigs are smarter than dogs. There's no humane way to confine and kill them for their flesh.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:30 PM
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41. lets just disagree and leave it at that.
i have no intention of debating the consumption of meat with you. clearly you are the moral superior. congrats. you win. :sarcasm:

as for factory farming, not all sources are the same, and it is absurd to suggest it. of course labels are not alwats proof of 'humane' treatment, but you can educate yourself about where your food comes from, and under what conditions.

i respect the choice of vegetarians, and i have at times been one myself. spare me the sermons though, please. there is no black and white correct answer to ethical questions.


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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:22 PM
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40. Actually, no.
What you said:
"I don't care what you say. It is god-damn delicious..."

You don't care. 'Nuff said, eh? Sell sanctimonious elsewhere. Maybe in an H2 forum somewhere.

Don't take your own words so personally.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:34 PM
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42. H2 forum? like a Hummer? lol.. took me a while to figure that one out.

you really should refrain from flaming people without having a clue about who they are.

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:45 PM
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44. Again
you said:
"yes. i am personally sending the world to hell with my trader joes uncured all natural BLT every 3 or 4 weeks.
what a selfish fucking jerk i am.

things are getting a bit sanctimonious around here, no?"

Seems the flames are largely on your behalf, eh?

Sorry it took you a while to figure out what "H2" meant. Sounded a little...self-explanatory to me. Seems that you get the intent with your retort, though. Sometimes, it takes just that...time.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:53 PM
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45. it seems you think you have made your point.
:shrug:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:58 PM
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46. That's it?
oooh, I'll raise you a "vice versa" to block.

Whatever.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:06 PM
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37. Maybe AT&T will buy them so they can be Singularswine.
Can you hear me now? Just think when one day they can 'process' the human race in one year!

Oink oink!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:07 PM
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38. This is why I keep kosher
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:34 PM
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43. That's One Reason I Buy Niman Ranch Meat
It's humanely and sustainably raised, and it tastes better. But mostly I'm not paying to have animals fed hormones and antibiotics they don't need and be trapped in hideous feed lots.
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