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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:05 PM
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Lawrence O'Donnell -by Keith Olbermann
Lawrence O'Donnell
by Keith Olbermann
Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 11:00:01 AM PST

Forgive the fairly minor focus here but I spot at least three diaries on his appearance on Countdown last night to discuss Obama, Reagan, and Edwards.

Those of you complaining about it are right.

His HuffPo piece was news to me.

Shouldn't have been, obviously, but it was.

I don't read every blog, nor everything written by my guests. I often don't know until an hour beforehand who will be a guest on a given show (if it matters to you, these scheduling nightmares tend to come in waves for some reason, and last night was a Nor'easter). Also, to announce, on-air, each guest's preferences, prejudices, shillings and shiv jobs, would reduce the rest of the show to "Good Evening. Call Me Ishmael. My Boat Sank. The End. Good Night." And Lawrence O'Donnell's insight is almost always perceptive, relevant, and enlightened.

But even with these caveats, the point about this appearance, especially in the wake of such a freshly-written piece, is well-taken and I'm very sorry.

It will be addressed tonight on the show.

Thanks.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/18/135219/103/392/438962
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:07 PM
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1. Excellent.
O'Donnell was completely out of line last night. I'm glad Keith recognizes that.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:15 PM
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4. What happened?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:20 PM
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9. Basically, O'Donnell said that Reagan
was a very popular president, that his memory is revered, particularly in California, and that only the very far left wing of the Democratic party would agree with Edwards' comments yesterday about not mentioning Reagan as any kind of positive force in his own campaign. He said Edwards was irrelevant, and he also implied that the culinary workers in Nevada were too stupid or ill-informed to care anything about Reagan's union-busting activities anyway.

If he was trying to pump Obama, he did him no favors.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:21 PM
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10. Thanks for the reply!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:52 PM
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38. I saw the piece last night.
It is just exasperating sit and watch someone categorize everyone that doesn't consider Reagan a great president as "far left". More like we were the only ones that were paying attention and weren't sucked in by all the MSM brainwashing.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:55 PM
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56. He made feel like spitting at the TV!!!!! What an idiot he made of himself.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 03:46 PM
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51. nadda favor at all
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 03:22 PM
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44. HuffPost O'Donnell to Edwards: Drop out or be remembered as another racist
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 03:23 PM by unc70
Southern white man blocked the black man. That was why many of us were shocked to see him on Countdown, particularly commenting on Edwards.

There have been a lot of things like this, many aimed at Edwards. Following the NV debate, CNN had Roland Martin and Glenn Beck as their pundits. I think that was when Beck went on the attack against Edwards that included calling him a "commie".
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:10 PM
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2. Reagan is adored by the very great majority of Americans
and only the far left in the Democratic Party would suggest as Edwards does that Reagan was a blight on America..:puke:
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:15 PM
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3. My bad..
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 02:18 PM by trumad
self delete
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:17 PM
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6. I think (hope) WinterBlues was describing what O'Donnell
was saying on Countdown last night, not his/her personal belief.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:25 PM
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14. That is exactly what I was doing, sorry for the confusion
That is what this yahoo said about Reagan and Edwards...
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:26 PM
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15. That is basically what O'Donnell said (nt)
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:18 PM
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8. Who's "pla"? I think the barking icon indicates sarcasm
as would the designation of Edwards as "far left".

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:16 PM
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5. oops....I would say welcome to DU. But I won't.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:18 PM
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7. "the far left" um yeah, ok.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:43 PM
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30. welcome to DU
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 03:05 PM
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41. Next to GWB Reagan was the worst president of the last 70 years.
He set this country on the path that led us to where we are today. He was the seed of the conservative cancer that is killing this country today. The right wing media has built him into some kind of saviour that restored the country and brought down communism. Nothing could be farther from the truth. He was a dottering old man that slept through his presidency and did nothing to help Americans during the worst economy since the great depression. The fall of communism had nothing to do with him. It simply collapsed on it's own.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:23 PM
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11. Keith figured it out ---
good for him. He's doing the right thing in addressing this.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:32 PM
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22. It's nice to have a media figure who has a working brain, isn't it?
lol

:hi:
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:37 PM
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26. Yes, it IS refreshing!
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 02:38 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
I have come to expect a lot from Keith, and was truly shocked that he would let O'Donnell get away with what was clearly an asscovering on Obama's behalf. I wanted to reach through the screen, grab him by the lapels, and kick O'Donnell in the nuts. Those of us who lived through the 80s in San Francisco will never forget what "Saint" Ronnie did for us. :mad:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:41 PM
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29. Precisely. Those of us who lived here and who have family
in Central America know how widespread his destructiveness was.

We all know about the death squads. I recently found out that the Contras kidnapped whole families and held them in Guatemala in order to force young men to bear arms with them. The list of Reagan's crimes is still being written. :grr:
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:34 PM
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61. I was furious last night
when I saw O'Donnell - and my first thought was Keith did a Fox Noise. I glad he addressed it, but still, someone should have known about O'Donnell's frantic spewings.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:23 PM
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12. I'm confused...what is this all about?
Am I the only one missing what this is about? Did O'Donnell get on and wax poetic about the Reagan years or something?
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:27 PM
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17. Well lets see...
Edwards isn't "relevant" to any discussion of the primaries, Nevada caucus goers are too stupid to know anything about our last 20 years of history, the only people who don't worship at the altar of St. Ronnie are the "loony lefties".

Some other extraneous and sundry compliments along those lines.

This on the heels of his hit piece in the HuffPo called "I hate John Edwards" or some such balanced reporting.

There were quite a few threads going last night. He had people spitting nails.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:43 PM
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31. Yes, in support of Obama although he didn't come out and say it.
Worse, he maligned John Edwards and called for him to drop out.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:44 PM
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32. He also wrote a vitriolic piece for HuffPo recently stating that JRE
is a 'southern white man', who should drop out of the race so that a 'black man' can be elected (paraphrasing, of course).
It was totally racist, if you ask me.
That's why I was shocked last night that K.O. had O'Donnell on as a guest during the Edwards/Obama/Reagan segment.
I'm guessing he wasn't aware of the HuffPo piece at the time.....
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:24 PM
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13. SWEET!!!
Way to stand up Keith.

:applause:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:35 PM
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25. Keith wrote crib notes for Moby Dick.
I love it!

:rofl:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:26 PM
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16. prove this bastard wrong..donate today to the Edwards campaign..
go ahead prove O'Donnell wrong..stand up and be counted!! Prove the MSM wrong..tell them who is boss!!


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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:27 PM
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18. w00t!!!
:woohoo:
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:34 PM
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23. John needs to win one of either Nevada or South Carolina

not a tie for first, not a second... he needs a win.

Personally, I'm pulling for him to win one. We need a 3 way race going to Super Tuesday.

However, should he not win one of those two, I think he should consider carefully dropping out.
It will be clear that he won't win the nomination, his only role will be that of spoiler.

Is that what Edwards supporters want?
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bonnieS Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:19 PM
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59. delegates
Historically, the nominee was not known before the convention but was selected at the convention. Candidates who were not already crowned as nominee arrived with delegates they could trade for planks in the platform or jobs in the Adminstration and then the delegates, on the second "ballot" would go to whoever offered the best deals. The conventions used to be about more than eating, drinking, and getting corporate gifts.

It is very important to keep both Edwards and Kucinich in the race for three reasons: to have enough delegates at the convention to get some progressive planks or people promised; to keep the two other candidates from swinging back to the right--they are moving further to progressive stances only because they are being forced to, and to have the population hear progressive ideas at debates and in interviews even if the media keeps it down to a trickle.

They (the media and "partisans") are trying very hard to force them out so none of this will happen, and there will be less voices.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 03:12 PM
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43. ...
:woohoo: :woohoo:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:28 PM
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19. Good for Keith!
:applause: :applause: :applause:

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:30 PM
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20. hey O'Donnell ..here is my man!!!!!!!!!!





donate today..

fly
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:31 PM
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21. Booking does get like that. And, what a gracious gesture on Keith's part.
:)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:34 PM
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24. It's clear that O'Donnell supports Obama, but he needs to come out and admit it.
:hi:
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:38 PM
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27. Keith is a jewel
I was disheartened yesterday when I saw Lawrence O'Donnell on last night's show and wondered what Keith was thinking. I am so happy he addressed the issue. I don't care for O'Donnell and haven't for a long time so I hope last night was the end of his appearances on Countdown.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:39 PM
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28. Thanks for doing the right thing, Keith
O'Donnell was insulting.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:47 PM
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36. I was so disgusted last night. O"Donnell was just AWFUL.
And the Huffpo piece he wrote slamming JRE (standing in the way of Obama - and History).

O'donnell should have his pundit license revoked.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:54 PM
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40. Is it up on YouTube any where? I've been avoiding the cable
channels, even Keith's show, because the muck they're promoting between Clinton and Obama is just too disgusting WHILE they ignore Edwards and marginalize Dennis is just too disgusting to watch.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 03:24 PM
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45. His Huff Po piece made my blood boil
It will be interesting to hear what Keith has to say about it all tonight.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:45 PM
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33. Great. Now when will KO address his shameful lack of coverage of Lee Mercer Jr?
(ALL THREE)!!!
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:46 PM
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34. Oh! I was starting to wonder whether I was aligned with Edwards
or in his "camp" or whatever O'Donnell said.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:46 PM
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35. thank you, keith!! I wanted to smack o'donnell, what incredibly stupid remarks.
my neighbors must think I'm nuts, the way I yell at the tv (used to throw things, but my accountant pointed out that that is a very expensive habit)
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:48 PM
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37. Oh man! That is a relief! I thought he was showing his support by having him
on the show.

O'Donnell should have told KO before he agreed to be on the show what he had done over the weekend. O'Donnell must have known that the shit was gonna hit the fan and that it would end up splattering all over Keith.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:52 PM
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39. There's something screwy about O'Donnell lately that reminds me
of the behavior of a practicing alcoholic. He can be charming, smart and right and alternately mean, small and wrong.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #39
57. Interesting you mention that. A while back while watching him I wondered about that myself.
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 05:08 PM by Garbo 2004
What surprised me is that the thought just popped into my head. A visceral response that I guess was triggered by something, but not his actual comments at the time. Weird.

(This was well before his more recent comments/behavior.)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:06 PM
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58. Not to diss anyone dealing with alcoholism but I've known my share
of Spaniards.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 03:08 PM
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42. What a mensch.
As always.

:loveya:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 03:27 PM
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46. What a relief! Sometimes I wonder if we're losing Keith.

But he's uusally a day or two behind, and as he says, he can't read everything on the blogs-o-sphere... Thanks Keith for addressing it at all. O'Donnell didn't waste a minute until he got his slam in about Edwards' not being relevant.

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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 03:27 PM
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47. They must have cut that for the midnight replay, because I
did not hear it then. It was a very, very short interview at midnight, and that part wasn't on it.
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 03:39 PM
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49. I've watched KO from the beginning
and I was ready to throw my television out the window last night. I almost started thinking negatively about Keith, but, rationality prevailed ( as it does with all Edwards supporters ;) ).

I am really looking forward to two things:

1. What KO says tonight
2. Never having to worry about seeing O'Donnell anywhere on KO.

I just made my second donation today. Did you remember?

www.johnedwards.com

For all of us!
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:03 PM
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52. The segment was not cut on replay. I watch KO at 9 Pacific & saw it with O'Donnell's comments.n/t
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 03:33 PM
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48. k & r
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 03:42 PM
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50. I KNEW that bastard O'Donnell would self-destruct at some point
after writing that pathetic, irrational screed attacking John Edwards last week! I just didn't think the self-immolation would take place so quickly!

I just hope KO puts him in his rightful place..."balls on a platter" is a phrase that's coming to mind right now!
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:08 PM
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53. Oh thanks I gotta watch tonight then
Keith is a good guy. I know this. I kinda know this like I know Edwards is a good guy. I just don't turn on them because I don't think they will turn on me. It's that simple. Not perfect, not always right, but basically decent in a time we need some good guys.

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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:39 PM
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54. KO is one stand up guy!
I applaud him! :applause:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:54 PM
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55. Cool of him to be so responsive. I look forward to his show tonight.c
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:23 PM
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60. wonderful.
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