Iranian boats "provoke" U.S. Navy ships in Hormuz: CNN Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:53am EST WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Five Iranian Revolutionary Guard boats harassed and provoked three U.S. Navy ships in the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday, CNN reported.
The CNN report on Monday, citing unidentified U.S. officials, said the Iranian vessels came within 200 yards (meters) of the U.S. ships and that after a threatening radio communication, U.S. sailors manned their ships' guns and were very close to opening fire.
20. While republicon darling Ollie North smirks about the US Missiles he gave to Iran
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 09:28 AM by SpiralHawk
Republicon 'hero' (and traitor to America), Col. Ollie North - one of Dickie "Five Military Deferments" Cheney's intimate buddies -- gave the Iranians our Hawk missiles, and a Bible, so the Iranians could pray up a Christian storm before shooting our missiles at our sons and daughters in uniform.
Thanks a pantload, Ollie. You are a typical republicon (the lowest insult known to humanity). Try supporting America and the American people next incarnation...
83. How about Iran's foreign ministry? They are admitting that something happened.
From the AP wire- "It suggested the Iranian boats had not recognized the U.S. vessels."
If you believe that Iranian boats couldn't pick out a US warship from within a half mile, you are brain dead.
"But Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammed Ali Hosseini played down the incident, suggesting it was an issue of mistaken identity. He did not comment on the U.S. claims of the Iranian boats' actions."
"That is something normal that takes place every now and then for each party, and it (the problem) is settled after identification of the two parties," he told the state news agency IRNA."
Well sfexpat, Iran is at least admitting SOMETHING happened, so your initial accusations that the incident was made up Gulf of Tonkin style are probably false. They are claiming that whatever incident DID happen was a case of mistaken identity. Any average joe can pick out a warship from miles away, let alone someone in the Iranian Navy. It's an obvious lie, just like the obvious lie they used during the British sailor incident.
Sfexpat, there will be no war with Iran. You can stop being an apologist for the Iranian government.
15. "Them there Eye-ranians is Evil Doers. Smirk." - Commander AWOL
"Yup, just like our republicon homelander propaganda machine has been claiming, Eye-ranians is just the mostest Evil Doers ever. We better nuke them now. I will be sending YOUR sons and daughters in uniform over there to get their loot for my republicon cronies. Oh yeah, and to protect you proles from (smirk) evil and stuff."
I'm not saying everything that comes out of the US military is verifiable truth, but believing Iran? Isn't this the same country with a president denying the holocaust and existance of homosexuality within his country?
69. You're right, he's only the mouthpiece of the religious zealots who..
have complete control over the country. Wait, there's no real center of power? Didn't you argue that the Iranian leadership isn't fractured in another post? You're contradicting yourself.
Uhhh, and why didn't the navy fire on the boats if they wanted a war so much? THEN they could lie about the incident and it would be Gulf of Tonkin. They didn't. This is just a non-story demonstrating how stupid the Iranian navy really is.
There will be no war with Iran. I've been reading the same crap on DU since the 2004 election. It won't happen under the current set of circumstances. You can take that to the bank.
79. There is no contradiction at all. The Iranian president doesn't make
these decisions. ,Neither does the the US navy.
I don't think the US senior officer corps is going for it and intelligence certainly isn't. But Bush and Cheney are insane so, there will be no trips to the bank for me until these mothers are out of office.
Were you asleep during the British sailor hostage incident? The Iranians have shown this type of behavior before. They are inept, and bad liars. As you may recall, the Iranians insisted the incident took place at a location within their territorial waters, when it was pointed out that the location was in fact in international waters, they changed the location AGAIN to put it in their own waters.
I seem to recall then that DU wanted to believe the Iranian (Holocaust denying, homosexuality denying) government over the British Navy. Madness.
65. So those British sailors were really holograms? They weren't really captured?
The Iranians have done this shit before. Recently. It's a pattern. Just because this alleged incident doesn't fit within your narrow minded world view doesn't mean it's the new Gulf of Tonkin. Some Iranians, especaially in the military, are fucking crazy. Duh.
And actually yes, Britain has the finest naval tradition of any country in the world. They are a first world modern navy. The Iranian navy is basically in the stone ages compared to the Brits. Was that sarcasm or a joke? I don't get it.
78. The Iranians have done this before? The Brits have been doing it
for hundreds of years and all over the world. When Henry 8 fired up the Navy, they were little more than organized pirates. Later, the Navy enabled the slave trade. Try to find that on the Google. It's nearly impossible. Instead what you find is many listings for how the Navy valiantly helped end the slave trade. Forget that the Navy was one of the main enforcers of British hegemony. You're India3. I'm sure that isn't news to you.
Tradition is a funny, highly selective thing and not to be confused with actual history.
The Maine sank in Havana harbor. Engineering analysis of the wreck many years afterward concluded that the explosion was most probably caused by a coal bunker fire next to a secondary armament magazine, detonating the ammunition.
59. The PNAC Repukes want war with Iran so badly, they will do anything
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 12:19 PM by Rex
to get it started this year. There are recordings of that Iranian fella saying what he did, let us hear them so we know they are real (ha fat chance) before they get 'burned by accident' so as not to release 'sensitive information'. :sarcasm:
70. How much do you want to bet it was the US doing the provoking?
Say by encroaching on Iran's territorial waters?
What's Iran going to do? They'll make a statement saying we entered their waters, we'll deny it, and the diplomatic channels will degenerate into a pissing match of "Did not!" "Did too!" which is exactly what the Bushies want.
Gives them an excuse to bang the war drums some more...
75. boats vs. warship? I was wondering how long it would take to go to war with iran.
Since bush got shut down in his nuclear weapon lies again, I was wondering how long it would be for us to manufacture a war of some sort (cuz the repubs HAVE to scare the shit out of Americans to get them to vote for Rudy). Why exactly are our warships in that area, anyway? Provoking perhaps??? If you recall we sent those ships there a few months ago, moving them from the Pacific for no apparent reason.
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