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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:40 PM
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Did Obama lie last night when he denied that his NH co-chair is Pharma lobbyist?
Clinton pointed out that Obama's NH cochair is a Pharma lobbyist. Obama said "that's not true, that's not true" and shook his head. Did he lie?

http://thepage.time.com/
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:44 PM
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1. He only said"that's not true" 2x; if he denied him 3x I would be worried. nt
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:09 PM
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4. Oh
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:45 PM
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2. Yep, he's a lyin' sack o' shit. So I guess he's not an empty suit after all.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:46 PM
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3. ...
:spray:
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nannah Donating Member (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:25 PM
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5. Demers registered as a lobbyist in N.H. on 12/28/2007 for the following:
International Bottled Water Association; EBAY INC; USTPA; Professional Fire Fighters of NH; FEDEX; North Country Environmentatl Services INC; NH Trail Lawyers Association; NH Coalition for Prosthetics; PhRMA; Cannery Casino resorts; Bank of America; Comcast; Pfizer; PSNH; IGT; National Card Coalition; NH Independent Case managers; Southern Wine & Spiurits of NH; and NH Troopers Association.

http://www.sos.nh.gov/lobname.html
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:29 PM
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6. Pfizer & Bank of America

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:54 PM
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10. Eek, and he's not the only one
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:25 PM
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13. Lockheed Martin, Walmart AND British Petroleum?
From your link above --


"Three political aides on Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-Ill.) payroll were registered lobbyists for dozens of corporations, including Wal-Mart, British Petroleum and Lockheed Martin, while they received payments from his campaign, according to public documents."

So, the Military Industrial Complex, The Oil Barons, AND the largest importer of DEADLY chinese imports are filling up the pockets of KEY Obama supporters?

Oh yeah -- he's the *candidate of CHANGE*. But the real CHANGE is the BLING his supporters are poised to rake in.

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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:37 PM
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7. So it's true?
I thought that denial seemed pretty weak - he didn't even look up from his scribbling. Does anyone know who Edwards & Clinton's NH chairs are?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:42 PM
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8. PhRMA = the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (enough said).
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:45 PM
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14. So this person
registered as a lobbyist about a week ago? The timing seems weird.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:46 PM
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9. Edwards camp kept exposing that in Iowa and the media ignored it!!
yes we were all discussing it in Iowa and the media put blindfolds onto that fact!! deliberately i might add..

fly
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:56 PM
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11. Yes. n/t
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:22 PM
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12. The Page Finds that Obama’s Co-Chair Really is a Lobbyist
The Page Finds that Obama’s Co-Chair Really is a Lobbyist
January 6th, 2008


In one of last nights debate exchanges Senator Clinton charged that Sen. Obama’s New Hampshire co-chair Jim Demers is a lobbyist for the pharmaceutical industry. Obama said the charge wasn’t true. Meanwhile Mark Halperin find’s that Jim Demers is indeed a registered lobbyist for both Pfizer and PhRMA.

So, basically, either Obama did not know his campaign co-chair was a registered lobbyist, or he lied?

Meanwhile Hillary Clinton’s Web site also points to the following:

From MSNBC:

Though Sen. Obama has also said that he won’t take federal PAC and lobbyist money on his campaign, he does take money from state based lobbyists as previously reported by First Read.

Sen. Obama’s co-chair in New Hampshire, Jim Demers, is a state based lobbyist for the pharmaceutical and financial services industries amongst others.
From Newsday SpinCylce

Anti-Lobbyist Obama enlists NH Lobbyist

Barack Obama has backhandedly slapped Hillary Rodham Clinton for accepting contributions from lobbyists and PACs, eschewing cash from both groups because he doesn’t want to be beholden to special interests. So it was with great interest that we read in the Boston Globe that BHO has enlisted New Hampshire lobbyist Jim Demers (who represents trial lawyers, firefighters and a major video poker/slot machine vendor, according to his firm’s Website) to be one of his New Hamsphire co-chairs.

Demers has already helped Obama organize events in the Granite State and has helped establish his organization.

In April, Obama refunded about $50,000 in lobbyist contributions. It’s not clear if Demers’ $2,300 was among the refunds. (His name isn’t on Obama’s refunds list because the campaign is only rejecting cash from federal lobbyists — an interesting ethical hair-split).

Even if he refunded Demers’ check – and we have no reason to believe Demers has anything but the purest motives for joining the campaign — the hiring raises questions. What good is returning a few grand from a lobbyist if that lobbyist is going to have unfettered access to the candidate as a volunteer?

:think::think::think::think::think::think::think::think::think::think::think::think::think::think:
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