Did Hillary Clinton kill Benazir Bhutto?

[DemKR]

Did Hillary Clinton kill Benazir Bhutto?
-- Reza Aslan, AC360 Contributor

Did Hillary Clinton kill Benazir Bhutto? Not quite, though Barack Obama's right hand man thinks she may have had something to do with it.

"She was a strong supporter of the war in Iraq," David Axelrod said, speaking of Hillary "which we would submit, is one of the reasons why we were diverted from Afghanistan, Pakistan and al-Qaeda, who may have been players in this event today. So that's a judgment she'll have to defend."

It is certainly not unexpected that a presidential campaign would use Bhutto's assassination to score political points. Look for Rudy Giuliani to ratchet up his "Muslims are coming to kill your babies!" stump speech in the coming days.

But Axelrod's comments are not just distasteful. They're nonsensical. Exactly how were we diverted from Pakistan because of the war in Iraq? If it weren't for the Iraq war, and the larger war on terror, we would not give Pakistan a second's thought. The country would still be under US sanctions for its illegal nuclear program.

Perhaps Axelrod means to say that our presence in Iraq has elevated the terrorist threat in Pakistan, thereby forcing the US into an uncomfortably cozy relationship with -- and $10 billion in aid to -- the country’s military dictator, Pervez Musharraf, which he seems to have squandered on military equipment to maintain a police state rather than fight al-Qaeda elements in the country, thereby compelling the US to send in Bhutto under a power sharing agreement with Musharraf to salvage what's left of Pakistan's democracy, thus tainting her as an American stooge and leading to her assassination by the very same al-Qaeda elements that Musharraf has yet to do anything about.

Perhaps.

One thing is certain though. If things continue to spiral out of control in the wake of Bhutto's death, Obama might get his chance to fulfill a campaign promise to invade Pakistan were Pervez Musharraf to lose power in a coup.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.cooper.360/blog/2007/12/did-hillary-clinton-kill-benazir-bhutto.html

[H2O Man]

1. pathetic

[Xipe Totec]

7. Indeed nt

[durrrty libby]

28. Oh so you took the OP off ignore already? Amazing turnaround

And here I was waiting for an answer to my question.

A reminder

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3899499#3899528

[Xipe Totec]

36. Did not, but now I know who to add

farewell.

PS: I went from memory. Amazing how you knew, and I knew who was referenced without having to read the putrid thread.

[durrrty libby]

37. Well a 2 year old could figure it out. You are not that clever

:boring:

[BlueJac]

2. Knock it off........n/t

[sniffa]

3. do you ever get tired?

posting the same shit over and over in different forums? do you fingers get cramped? carpal tunnel syndrome?

[Didereaux]

4. Hell Obama did it to blame it on Hillary! these two are getting beyond irritating.

[HeraldSquare212]

5. The writer is nonsensical and confused

"Exactly how were we diverted from Pakistan because of the war in Iraq? If it weren't for the Iraq war, and the larger war on terror, we would not give Pakistan a second's thought. The country would still be under US sanctions for its illegal nuclear program."

Well, the larger war on terror began with the war on Afghanistan, which predated the war on Iraq and involved Pakistain - if you recall, Musharaff was threatened by the US within days of 9/11 if it didn't cooperate against the Taliban, i.e., well before the invasion of Iraq. So to answer the question, the war on Iraq diverted resources away from Afghnistan which allowed the Taliban and al Queda to get more powerful which contributed to their power in Pakistan.

[Evergreen Emerald]

6. bad misstep on Obama's part

[matcom]

8. YAY!! Yet ANOTHER thread from you!

:bounce:

you are BY FAR my FAVORITE thread starter!

I literally bow down to you!

KEEP THEM COMING! I SAY YOU POST 1 of these EVERY 15 MINUTES from now till the election in 2008!

:applause"

[sniffa]

14. pfft, that's not enough

i say every 2 minutes. anything less does Hillary a disservice. :patriot:

[matcom]

18. you are RIGHT!

every 2 minutes seems only fair to Hillary! I also think every thread should have a pic of her so we can ALL bask in her GLORY!

in between 2 minute posts maybe the OP can post a pic of Obama eating the flesh of those poor teens at the San Diego Zoo. lord KNOWS it was Obama and NOT that Tiger who carried out those attrocities.

[sniffa]

21. thanks for repeating RW talking points

:eyes:

it happened in San Diego too? damn, Obama doesn't fuck around.

[matcom]

25. vote for Obama or else

he will eat your loved ones and shit them out onto the STREETS!

[sniffa]

31. that's frightening

how can Hillary top that!? :scared:

[NoPasaran]

9. No, but Cheney killed Bambi

Isn't it about time to stop flinging poo about the room?

[Lex]

10. omg -- weak

nt

[book_worm]

11. Well the war in Iraq which Clinton supported didn't help

that's not saying she had anything to do with the assassination, but it did take resources and manpower away from the search for Bin-Laden.

[otherlander]

12. .

[shaniqua6392]

13. I have just decided to vote for Hillary Clinton thanks to your post.

I am deadly serious too. If she has as much power as you say she does, I think she can really kick some ass in Washington when she gets there. I see all of these posts on DU that are so outlandish regarding Clinton, it has just driven me crazy. And driven me over to her side. I was leaning toward Obama, but there can not be that much to him if his supporters have to go to these extreme means to boost him up by slandering Clinton with obvious falsities. Thanks for helping make my decision though. :hi:

[MethuenProgressive]

15. So, Obama's not responsible for Axlerod - but Clinton's responsible for Shaheen (and killing Bhutto)

The ObamaNational anthem is a funny song...

[Dems Will Win]

19. Um Axelrod was answering a question about Bhutto's death aiding Hillary

and he answered talking about her vote on the war in Iraq.

Out of the blue, Shaheen suggested the Republicans would ask if Obama ever dealt cocaine.

Seems like apples and rotten oranges to me.

[MethuenProgressive]

29. "Out of the blue,"? He was being interviewed too, wasn't he?

Odd how fast the double standard is launched by the Obama people.

[sniffa]

22. you're responding to a Lil Dog worshiper

your post seems out of place. hmmm.

[mod mom]

16. Here is Axelrod's quote

“Obviously, one of the reasons that Pakistan is in the distress that it’s in is because al-Qaeda is resurgent, has become more powerful within that country and that’s a consequence of us taking the eye off the ball and making the wrong judgment in going into Iraq. That’s a serious difference between these candidates and I’m sure that people will take that into consideration.”…

“She was a strong supporter of the war in Iraq, which we would submit, was one of the reasons why we were diverted from Afghanistan, Pakistan and al-Qaeda, who may have been players in this event today, so that’s a judgment she’ll have to defend,” Axelrod said.

IT IS UNBELIEVABLE TO ME THAT THE CORPORATE BACKERS FOR CLINTON CAN SPIN THIS INTO AXELROD BLAMING HILLARY FOR BHUTTO'S DEATH.

IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THE CORPORATE SCUM AT CNN WANT THEIR CANDIDATE-HRC TO ENERGIZE THE REPUBLICAN BASE AND DIVERT DEM VOTES (LIKE MINE AND OTHER ANTI WAR FOLKS).

[McCamy Taylor]

33. Allowing your aid to say anything more than "We regret the death of Bhutto" shows poor judgment.

Obama campaigns for president like he is still running a U.S. Senate campaign. And who is charge? Obama or his campiagn staff?

The man has promise, but he is too young. He needs to come back when he is more mature, like Dodd or Biden. We do not need another adolescent in the WH.

[libnnc]

17. j/o sock post.n/t

[havocmom]

20. No, and no to Vince Foster too.

give it a rest.

[Flabbergasted]

23. Go here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3899612&mesg_id=3899612

[Swamp Rat]

24. M$M loves you.

[burythehatchet]

35. it was a very close call; this item almost fell out of the news cycle

:mad:

[Oilwellian]

26. Axelrod didn't suggest any such thing

And posting the twisted words of cable news teeeeeveeeee is laughable.

[PakistaniDUer]

27. Reza Aslan can kiss my ass

This guy supported the iraq war so strongly, now he can't reap the fruits of it.

[madrchsod]

30. obama is the president ? dam.....did i have a long nap...

[BenDavid]

32. According to Axelrod, is Obama to blame for the Bhutto

assassination too? Outrageous stuff from the Obama campaign.where was Obama on funding of Iraq and Pakistan for his tenure in the Senate? What did He do?

[burythehatchet]

34. You add nothing, indeed, you promote discord and actually suck energy from me.

Yeah. You suck ass.