This headline and story remind me of Viet Nam

[Stuart G]

It's like going back 40 years..looking at the news, countless body counts. U.S. troops killed so many Viet Cong..
............what does it mean? Every day, the same shit.
....Like we are winning...Winning what?? here read it for yourselves. Those who lived and were news junkies back then, know it is the same. We have learned nothing..
..........The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting the same result.................................
here:

New York Times.



http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/28/world/middleeast/28iraq.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

U.S. Troops Kill 11 Shiite Militiamen



By SOLOMON MOORE
Published: December 28, 2007
BAGHDAD — American soldiers raided a neighborhood in the southern Iraqi city of Kut early Thursday morning, killing 11 members of the Mahdi Army, the militia loyal to the anti-American Shiite cleric Moktada al-Sadr, the American military and witnesses said.
Leaders of the Sadr movement, which has abided by a cease-fire for several months, condemned the American operation.
Witnesses said that explosions, thumping helicopters and bursts of automatic-weapons fire echoed through the Kut neighborhood of Al Jameea for at least three hours as American forces fought Mahdi militiamen. At least four people were wounded during the clash, the police said.
“The American helicopters shelled our neighborhood for three hours,” said Jameel Muhammad, a 27-year-old construction worker. “Dead bodies were scattered here and there. Houses and cars were set on fire, and people were scared and running all over the place.”
A shop owner, Hassan Jassim, said that his sister-in-law had been wounded in the fighting and that he had seen three bodies lying in the street near his house.
“American helicopters fired on our houses,” he said.
In a statement, the United States military said that its soldiers had been searching for a person responsible for attacks against American forces when they were fired upon with assault rifles and rocket-propelled grenades.
“Responding in self-defense, coalition forces returned fire and called for supporting aircraft to engage,” the statement said.
The militant Sadr movement is one of several leading Shiite political groups in the government and has one of the largest paramilitary forces.
The Mahdi Army, which has a strong presence in Iraq’s security forces, has been linked to the deaths of thousands of Sunni Arabs in Baghdad, Diyala, Basra and other provinces. The militia also attacked American and British forces, including major battles in the holy city of Najaf in 2004.

[acmavm]

1. How lond is al Sadr going to sit still for this? He's not doing himself

any favors by letting his supporters be killed this way. I can't help but wonder what his game is. Will he make his move after he becomes an ayatollah? Will he wait until we start 'withdrawing' troops?

What is this guy up to?

[dbt]

2. That would be the First Viet Nam, yes?

And it is morbidly fascinating to see the parallels. "The one thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history." I think that comes from George Bernard Shaw...