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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 12:22 PM
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TIME: Q&A With Al Gore
Edited on Fri Dec-21-07 12:35 PM by RestoreGore
http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/personoftheyear/article/1,28804,1690753_1695417_1695747,00.html



Vladmir Putin may be TIME's Person of the Year, but Al Gore most certainly is mine.


Excerpts:

What do you want your audience to leave with? What more can you tell them at the moment when the whole world will be watching you?

My purpose in the speech is to do as much as any speech can, to energize those who care to read it, to take action. It's not complicated-it's fairly simple. We face a planetary emergency. We have been procrastinating and delaying action, and now is the time to come together at last for this purpose, as one human civilization turn the corner towards a sharp reduction in CO2 emissions. This is the most unusual and dangerous world crisis that civilization has ever confronted. CO2 is invisible, so it makes the climate crisis much easier to put out of sight and out of mind. The damage it causes is unprecedented and we often confuse the unprecedented with the improbable. And though we can't see the global warming pollution in the true sense, we can see its impact beginning to get harsher all around us, everywhere. It's happening before us, it's beginning to overtake us. We still have time to act but the time is short. I am an optimist. I do believe that the signs you see all around the world represent the early stages of a galvanizing moment for humankind. I fully understand the kind of response we need is also unprecedented, but neither is it improbable. We can do it, but now is the time.

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So you would argue that this crisis is on par with World War II, the Great Depression, and that it requires that sort of all-encompassing national effort.

All other priorities must be looked at in the context of achieving this, absolutely. We use examples from our own history when we try to imagine a sudden galvanizing effort. World War II is one, the Apollo Program is another, the Manhattan Project is another. The early New Deal is another. The Montreal Protocol was a great example of global success. Its still being achieved but it's a success in the making. The effort to cure polio, the deadly form of smallpox-there are enough examples to justify a realistic hope that we can achieve a solution to the climate crisis. Forgive me for using words that you know so well, but the North Polar ice cap, according to the best scientists in the world, fell off a cliff this fall. The signs that our world is spinning out of kilter are increasingly difficult to misinterpret. The question is how to convince enough people to join a critical mass of urgent opinion, so that the US and the rest of the world shift to a new way of thinking about the crucial importance of solving this crisis.

Why hasn't that message been fully received yet?

I spend a lot of time asking myself that question, and one dimension of my failure is that I don't yet know all the answers to that question. I think we are making progress and the recent shift in Australia is a dramatic example of what can happen. We have had 150 major business leaders in the US demand action. We have had 700 cities in the US have independently embraced the Kyoto Protocol. Many states, including our largest California have had as well. I don't want to give you the impression that we haven't had a lot of movement. It's just that nothing has yet matched the scale of the response that is truly needed. Why has it taken so long for this message to sink in? Number one, the unprecedented nature of this crisis does make it difficult to communicate. We naturally tend to conflate the unprecedented with the improbable, and nothing in our prior history or cultures prepares us for the reality of this radically new relationship between human civilization and the Earth. In just the last one hundred yeas, we have become the bull in the china shop, capable of doing catastrophic damage with intending to do it. We've quadrupled population in less than a century, and amplified the power of technology many thousands of time's over and haven't matched those changes with a shift in our thinking that allows us to take into account the long-term consequences of our actions. Number two, the garden variety denial that psychologist tell us we all fall prey to. It's hard to sustain the focus of a global community on a challenge that is difficult and sometimes painful to think about. Number three, it's difficult to imagine engineering the scale of the changes that are now necessary on a global basis. We always take refuge in the familiar and the comfortable. Fourth, there has been a well funded, sophisticated effort to intentionally slow down the progress of this message. There is a great divide between the culture of science and the culture of politics. Science cherishes uncertainty and politics can be paralyzed by it. The scientists though have long since been more than sufficiently convinced that this is an emergency. Nevertheless, because they're scientists they continue to parse every unknown, as they should, but sometimes that translates in the political dialogues as a longer collection of uncertainties, and if politicians want to put off action, they can often direct their constituents to focus on some unresolved question that resets the clock for them. So they ask to be allotted more time. Well, we don't have a lot more time. And the final cause would be, those of us trying to communicate haven't yet found sufficiently effective ways to get the message across. But we will and I come back to the encouraging signs we are making progress.

How do you see yourself going forward, raising the alarm, as we near this tipping point?

I've always emphasized the availability of solutions, and I'm keenly aware that the moment the alarm is heard, people will be looking for solutions that we must implement. And I proposed my own best ideas of what the solution out to be. A CO2 tax is by far the most important way to enlist the energy of our markets to help solve this crisis. A global treaty that helps cap emissions and steadily lowers emissions, and allows trading within those caps, officially allocating resources in the market to get the steepest reductions. Also, I'd suggest a moratorium on the construction of any coal-fired generation that doesn't have the capacity of safely trapping and storing those CO2 emissions. But your question is a philosophical one. Before people are ready to implement solutions such as these, they have to recognize there is a problem justifying an unusually large response. They have to be at the crucial second part of that. They have to feel a proportionate sense of urgency about it. One can arrive at an intellectual and not accept the urgency. That is where the US is now. There has been a considerable shift in opinion, but the feeling of urgency has only grown a little, compared to what is needed.

snip

For all the momentum we're seeing, climate change hasn't really emerged as a top issue on the campaign trail.

I agree, so what does that tell me? That tells me that the highest and best use of whatever talent and experience I've gained along the way is best applied to the task of changing public opinion. These candidates, if they walk down the street in Manchester, NH, and every other person they encounter buttonholes them about climate change, you would hear very different stump speeches. When their pollsters go out and ask people what they think, what issues are most important to them, what do you feel passionate about, it's only when climate change moves to the top of that list that the political dialogue will really change. I'm doing everything I know to bring about that change. Why not jump into the race as a candidate and make it an issue? I've run for national office four times — twice for President, twice for Vice President. I've learned a great deal about how to do that, and what the limitations are of that strategy. When you take a look at candidates from both parties and what they are discussing, it shows how much work needs to be done to bring about that change.

end of excerpts.

The rest of the interview is well worth the read. I can't wait for his new book coming out this spring.


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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 12:28 PM
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1. just think this is what we had stolen from us
pisses me off every time I think about it too
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 12:31 PM
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2. Well, actually, I'm thinking more now about helping him get this planet back
"They" stole nothing in the end but a title. We still have the man... and a great man he is.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 12:39 PM
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3. "They" stole nothing in the end but a title...???
you're kidding, right?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 12:47 PM
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5. No I'm not
Based on the progress he has made outside that arena regarding this crisis, especially in wining the Nobel Peace Prize, they didn't "win" a damn thing as far as I am concerned. I'm tired of lamenting the past. I'm moving on to the future. Especially since the people of this country on the whole for all their lamenting about it haven't done a damn thing to make it right. This post wasn't meant to be a lament of the past, but a post talking about the hope he gives us for the future.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 03:03 PM
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9. they may have only stolen a title from gore...
but what they stole from the american people goes WAAAAAY beyond that.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 03:37 PM
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11. And they got away with it
Therefore for me, living in the past doesn't accomplish getting it back. Helping Al Gore now does.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 04:09 PM
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12. helping al gore in what way gets what back...?
:shrug:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 10:42 PM
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13. Mr. Gore's Response As Noted In The Op
Bolding my emphasis:

"I agree, so what does that tell me? That tells me that the highest and best use of whatever talent and experience I've gained along the way is best applied to the task of changing public opinion. These candidates, if they walk down the street in Manchester, NH, and every other person they encounter buttonholes them about climate change, you would hear very different stump speeches. When their pollsters go out and ask people what they think, what issues are most important to them, what do you feel passionate about, it's only when climate change moves to the top of that list that the political dialogue will really change. I'm doing everything I know to bring about that change. Why not jump into the race as a candidate and make it an issue? I've run for national office four times — twice for President, twice for Vice President. I've learned a great deal about how to do that, and what the limitations are of that strategy. When you take a look at candidates from both parties and what they are discussing, it shows how much work needs to be done to bring about that change."

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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 12:27 AM
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14. but what does it "get back"?
you said- "...living in the past doesn't accomplish getting it back. Helping Al Gore now does."

what is the "it" that helping gore now gets back?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:35 AM
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15. As a supporter of the man, and even more importantly an American
If you can't answer that question I can't help you. Read his latest book and see it for more than a "campaign" book and perhaps the answer will come to you.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 10:03 PM
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16. in other words- you don't have an answer for your own words...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 12:44 PM
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4. That was far more than a title as this thread attests to.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2510356

"Cheney Repeatedly Met With Auto Execs Before White House Killed California’s Emissions Law"


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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 12:56 PM
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6. Then why aren' t people standing up to it?
They only got where they are and have stayed where they are because of US. The way to atone for that is to then help Al Gore change the political process for the better now as he sees fit to do it. Lamenting the past won't get that done and neither will preaching to me as if I don't know the price of the past. I know all too well what was lost, but I also know the other side to that equation and it is that as a man who is destined to make this world a better place, Al Gore is here NOW doing great things and that is what I am now focusing on.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 01:28 PM
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8. You make a good point and I agree with the thrust of your logic, it's just too bad
Edited on Fri Dec-21-07 01:29 PM by Uncle Joe
Time Magazine still hasn't gotten the message giving an autocrat such as Putin this award as Person of the Year, even at this date, they still haven't gotten the message!

I mean good God almighty trying to save life as we know it and that doesn't warrant Person of the Year!? No wonder the nation's priorities are so screwed, they glorify fascists and communist dictators instead of something genuine or good.

P.S. I'm not preaching at you, I just don't see it as only a title, but I also understand why Al Gore is doing it the way he is.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 03:08 PM
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10. some of us tried...but most were complacent.
my wife and i went to washington for coronation day 2001...i honestly expected DROVES of people to be there to protest. but for most, apparently "icky" weather trumps their civil rights.

we even ended up being in the movie fahrenheit 9/11- this is a screen grab from 6 1/2 minutes in- the bush cheated banner is my handiwork.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 01:09 PM
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7. No doubt about any of that
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