*****OFFICIAL House Judiciary Committee CIA Tapes (CSPAN)Thread*****

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CSPAN Now. Conyers up to bat.

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1. Conyers running thru the history of how we've gotten to this point....

... Geneva Convention applies.

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2. Listening

Conyers asks for a Special Counsel

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3. Conyers: Credible evidence of numerous federal crimes...

n/t

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4. kickers

Lamar Smith (R-Duh) speaking now - Says Pelosi knew about waterboarding - Only used on 3 individuals

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5. Lamar Smith of Texas saying it's a bipartisan scandal.....

(he didn't say scandal -that's my add) .... Now bringing up that Kariakou freak, and how waterboarding works!

[MNDemNY]

12. So, the tapes were not "destroyed" they were "discarded"?

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6. grrr

Waterboarding totally works!

[VP505]

7. I hope that we get

something out of this other than another yawn from the MSM.

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8. Lamar Smith trying to scare the pants off everyone....

They would have bombed malls, incinerated apartment buildings, vaporized the Brooklyn Bridge.....Damn, these terra-ists are more powerful than any Army! :eyes:

[MNDemNY]

11. Smith could be waterboarded..that would not "shock my conscience".

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9. Nadler up

love him!

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10. Cutting thru the bullshit.....

..... calling it crimes that reach to the very highest levels of our govt.

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13. Nadler: Were these tapes destroyed to protect administration officials?

You betcha.

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14. If you mixed the DNA of Cab Calloway and Groucho Marx.....

..... You'd get Rep. Bobby Scott, D-VA. :)

[liberalnurse]

15. Thank you!

I would of missed it! I just put it on record....a little bit missed but I think it was just the intro-order stuff. :yourock:

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16. Sheila Jackson-Lee: It's been alleged that Gonzo and Harriet Myers...

... recommended the destruction of the tapes.

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17. Witnesses include David Rifkin, a rep from a Human Rts organization ....

and a GWU law prof who lawyered during Iran-Contra.

[Solly Mack]

18. Listening in K&R

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19. Saltzburg: Only plausible explanation.....CIA wanted to ensure the tapes were never seen by....

... any tribunal or by Congress.

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20. Saltzburg: This is an issue about whether the U.S. has any world credibility.....

What specific reasons are there for the tapes' destruction? Who wrote them? Were they vetted and by whom? Frivolous explanations have been given thus far.....and Congress must not wait to begin an investigation.

[Solly Mack]

21. and Congress did nothing...and then it rubber-stamped

YES!!!!

[Solly Mack]

23. ZING!!!! HA!HA! "that's the lesson of Iran-Contra"

[ThomWV]

22. Why is the broadcast delayed? How much earlier did the actual hearing take place?

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24. I think it actually started at 10 a.m., but President Donkey Kong had a press conference

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[Mist]

25. I'm just tuning in now--were these hearings held earlier? If so, when? nt

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26. And now that you've brought that up....why did * schedule an unnecessary...

... and pointless news conference just as this hearing was to begin? :think:

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27. Two more recs, sports fans. Two more recs.....

n/t

[Lugnut]

28. K&R n/t

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29. Does anyone know where Rifkin stands on BushCO's crimes?

Is he a conservative who's seen the light like John Dean, or an apologist?

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30. Rivkin

ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssnake

[EFerrari]

36. Neo con scum bucket. n/t

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31. Massimino of Human Rts First: Cheney led efforts to change interrogation techniques....

.... Surprise, surprise.

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32. Massimino: Policy has been to punish the monkey and let the organ grinder go....

.... referencing U.S. policy toward interrogations since the beginning of the Mideast misadventure.

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33. Conyers asking Salzburg what direction Congress should move in.....

.... Salzburg said creation of a special court is a longer-term solution......Suggests a special prosecutor because the department itself has stonewalled and shouldn't be investigating itself.

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34. Salzburg calling Rivkin out on his BS comparison of detainee interrogation to....

.... good cop/bad cop interrogations at police stations, noting that police detainees are Mirandized first, unlike the CIA detainees.

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35. The State Department, junior and his big dick suck!

[babylonsister]

37. Rivkin is there to speak for the BFEE? Quelle surprise!

:puke:

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38. He's making an ass out of himself....

.... He's essentially saying cops in NY or Philly beat the hell out of suspects, so why shouldn't the CIA?
:argh:

[EFerrari]

46. Yes. And, the other one -- sorry, can't remember his name, curly

black hair -- is there to speak for the Agency I assume although he said he wasn't, right? They both sent surrogates, imho. It's like watching a concealed high stakes tennis match. :crazy:

The other two seem to be normal professionals from human rights and military law.

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39. Rivkin is your typical Neocon whore.....

.... an authoritarian protofascist freak.

[EFerrari]

40. I think I remember hearing him spout bs on BookTv at AEI. n/t

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41. AEI seems to get a lot of face time on CSPAN....

:think:

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42. kick

still listening but fading fast. been up all night. :)

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43. Rivkin CAN'T HANDLE Sheila Jackson-Lee....

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[bdamomma]

44. is this over now on C Span?

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45. Yup. It ended....I suspect they'll rerun it since Congress is gone....

.... and they'll be desperate for stuff to air.

[EFerrari]

47. They'll probably play it again tonight. n/t