Charlize Theron is a US citizen

[Squatch]

Poll question: Charlize Theron is a US citizen

Would that make her an African-American?

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LOS ANGELES, Sept 13 (Reuters) - South Africa's Charlize Theron gained dual U.S. citizenship this year and in her first movie since, the A-list actress tackles a very American subject with "In the Valley of Elah," which looks at the human toll of the Iraq war in this country.

The actress calls herself "politically aware" and not one to "walk around with blinders on." So whether in "Elah," workplace drama "North Country" or her Oscar-winning turn in "Monster," Theron wants roles that challenge fans to think.

"I question authority, question what the government is doing, and I think that is an incredibly patriotic thing to do," Theron told Reuters.

Theron is quick to say, "I love America and love living in this country," and to be sure, she sees "Elah," as a story about people, not politics.

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[Bonobo]

1. Need another choice for "disingenuous crap".

[endarkenment]

2. Flamebait much?

[Squatch]

10. Didn't mean it to be such...

[marmar]

3. Sometimes emoticons say it best....

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[TransitJohn]

4. Other

My girlfriend.

[blogslut]

5. WTF?

What the hell point are you trying to make?

[undeterred]

6. So is John Kerry's wife.

[Tyler Durden]

7. Without the poll, not a bad post.

[Squatch]

9. The poll was an afterthought.

[Tyler Durden]

14. Stirs up too much shit: Theron is one of the "Good Guys."

[Squatch]

15. No argument from me, there.

[TheWatcher]

8. I think we should have a Poll on which is more relevant.

This Poll or American Idol Season 1 Re-Runs.

Imagine what a Horse Race that would be.

As for the Post itself, I say to Miss Theron: Well Done.

[shadowknows69]

11. Other: I don't care if she's from Pluto

[joshcryer]

12. This made me LOL.

Cute.

[Buzz Clik]

13. God, I hate polls.

I liked her in Astronaut's Wife and she was okay in Mighty Joe Young.

[shadowknows69]

16. And she was naked in "The Italian Job"

Just sayin. :evilgrin:

[Buzz Clik]

18. Hm. Might be time to fire up the TiVo.

[Clark2008]

17. My husband is an African-American.

Born in South Africa to American parents (Semetic and Caucasian) and naturalized upon his parents' return to the states when he was 3 years old.

So, yes... he and Charlize are African-Americans.

[Zywiec]

19. An African American can't be white

That would throw the whole world out of alignment.

Even if they are Black and from Europe, they are still African American.

[marmar]

20. "Even if they are Black and from Europe, they are still African American."

No, then they'd be Afro-British or Francaise Africaine etc., but keep trying. :eyes:

[Zywiec]

22. CNN still refers to them as African Americans

During CNN's December 6, 2005 broadcast of rioting in Paris, Lin referred to two North African youths who had been killed as "African-Americans". They were French citizens of Tunisian origin.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Lin

[Dorian Gray]

29. The CNN

made a mistake.

[tabasco]

73. Oh, well if Carol Lin said it, it must be correct.

Dumbass.

[KingFlorez]

24. That's incorrect

Most blacks in Europe were born there and still live within the borders, they haven't even set foot in the US. You can't be African-American unless you are born here or are a citizen.

[Zywiec]

28. Please see post #22 n/t

[KingFlorez]

51. And CNN was incorrect

How can someone who isn't a citizen in the US be any sort of American?

[Dorian Gray]

26. self delete

double post

[Dorian Gray]

27. Actually, they are NOT

When I lived in England I made the mistake of referring to a friend (who was black) as African American. (Ingrained into my psyche!) I got an earful back from him! He in NO way was american, and please don't call him that ever again! He laughed with me for a bit. I explained that I was uncomfortable using "black" to describe a person because I felt that some may be sensitive to the term. He said "black" was fine.

[Zywiec]

31. This reminds me of a thread a few months ago

when a Norwegian DU member posted about how proud they were when a "colored" women won a place in their new cabinet.

You would not believe all the condemnation on DU trying to ensure that the rest of the world complies to the US' vernacular when in comes to how people are described.

Because we know, whatever the US does, the rest of the world must follow. :eyes:

[Dorian Gray]

35. I have to admit

the when I hear "colored" it makes me cringe. So I can understand the response to a certain extent.

I do think some allowances should be made for different cultures, language, etc. I also think it would be ridiculous to insist that a black woman in Norway should be referred to as African American. Just NO!

[Nye Bevan]

37. I don't use the word "colored"

but why does the NAACP call themselves the NAACP?

[AspenRose]

45. Because when the organization was created that was the acceptable term

"Colored" was the standard reference in 1909, and the organization retains its original name.

"Its name, retained in accord with tradition, is one of the last surviving uses of the term "colored people". The group is based in Baltimore, Maryland."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAACP

[Dorian Gray]

75. Because it's an organization

that was founded when the word was more acceptable and not dated.

[Mira]

21. If only our Politicians were as good at their jobs as she is at hers!

(and what's with that poll?)

[Dorian Gray]

23. I have a friend

who has married a white South African man, and they live in Miami. He jokes about being African American quite often, but he never actually puts that down on job applications or anything. (He knows that the ensuing discussion with a potential employer would be long and uncomfortable.)

[superduperfarleft]

25. The designation of "Afro-American" was created

in order go give black people a sense of a history and a culture that was stripped from them by white European slaveowners. Caucasians are able to take the knowledge of their own culture and history for granted, a privilege that african-americans did not and mostly do not have but are attempting to reclaim. Questions like this basically mock the injustice that was done to african-americans by stripping them of all sense of identity in order to enslave them. Of course, you knew that.

This OP reminds me of questions like "Why isn't there a White History Month?" :eyes:

[Dorian Gray]

30. Really?

I honestly don't think that there is much wrong with the OP. It's silly, but I don't think it's insulting.

[superduperfarleft]

33. Well, I thought I explained why it might be insulting.

Not sure what else to tell you. :shrug:

[Dorian Gray]

36. You did...

I think I only responded to you because your post was right under mine. :)

I understand your point, and I think that if this were a really serious discussion involving any legality into the matter, I'd agree with you. But, the OP just seemed like silly speculation, and as I said in my prior post, I do have a male South African friend who jokes about this sometimes. (Though never officially states that he's African American.) And because I felt like it was silly speculation, I guess I didn't find it all that offensive.

[AspenRose]

47. You "get it"

Thank you.

[Eurobabe]

32. Doubt it, but she sure is beautiful...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

34. no.

[DavidDvorkin]

38. I'm also a former South African, now a US citizen

"African-American" applies more meaningfully to me than to almost anyone who is called that in the US.

[EnviroBat]

39. I saw the movie "Monster" last night.

Hard to believe that is the same woman. DAYYYUMMM!

[Squatch]

41. No kidding.

Here she is in Aeon Flux:



She is absolutely gorgeous.

[shadowknows69]

44. "I'll be in my bunk"

-Jayne

[Bake]

49. I'm waiting for the obligatory "I'd hit it" ....

In 9..8..7..6..5..4..3..

Bake

[truebrit71]

83. I'd hit it...

...glad to oblige....:evilgrin:

[EnviroBat]

50. Meowwww...

She could fart in my dinner, I wouldn't mind a bit...

[shadowknows69]

66. I'd say that qualifies as an "I'd hit it"

[Nye Bevan]

40. Of course

"Africa" is a continent, not a color.

Saying that she should *not* be called an African-American is like saying that a black person from Sweden who obtains American citizenship should not be called a Swedish-American, since Swedes are "supposed" to be white.

[NashVegas]

42. Other: African or South African

This is all just silly anyway, but when you're talking first generation, you don't get the hyphen.

[Squatch]

43. What if she wants it?

You wouldn't give it to her?

(The hyphen, that is)

:evilgrin:

[NashVegas]

94. We Don't Call

French immigrants Franco-American. Or Italian immigrants Italian-American, or any other anything-American until they pass a generation or two. It's just usage.

If you want to give it to her, by all means. Not my type. :P

[CT_Progressive]

46. Holy crap is she hot.

:loveya:

[Bucky]

62. Yes, she is. Why would you even need to ask a question like that.

We're all 98 degrees.

[CT_Progressive]

67. I thought they broke up ?

[Ezlivin]

48. Here's a much better picture

Damn, but she's hot in "Monster."

:)

All kidding aside, I think she's one hell of an actor.

[CT_Progressive]

52. More pics

[Squatch]

54. Great...now this thread is surely going to get locked.

[redqueen]

55. Well you did set the tone, by including a pic in the OP.

[Squatch]

56. My OP did not include nipplage.

[redqueen]

58. So?

What makes you think guys who post later won't post anything racier than you did?

[Squatch]

My faith in humanity?

:rofl:

[redqueen]

63. Awww... you still have that?

I've forgotten what that's like.

[redqueen]

53. I wonder what Johnny Depp's ancestry is...

:eyes:

[mitchum]

59. Chicken-American?

just kidding
sorta...

[redqueen]

61. So? Holy crap he is hot.

[mitchum]

64. That's why I said Chicken-American

:)

the use of "chicken" in his case was pretty correct (subculturally speaking)
And it is quite remarkable to still get that designation at 45 or so...

[redqueen]

65. This use of "chicken" is a term I'm not familiar with.

[mitchum]

79. A very pretty young man...

That's why Rush Limbaugh fits BOTH definitions of a "chickenhawk" :)

[greguganus]

82. Uh oh...more nippleage! n/t

..

[supernova]

57. Afrikaaner American

technically speaking.

[Bucky]

60. She makes me think about affirmative actions. Integration even.

I want her on a level playing field.

[shadowknows69]

68. Bad Bucky

:spank:

[Katherine Brengle]

70. That's disgusting, as are many responses in this thread.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

[superduperfarleft]

76. Hey, the whole thread was based off

an obtuse interpretation of the phrase "african-american" so a bunch of white people can sit around giggling about how silly it is, so are we surprised that it degenerated into a bunch of drooling monkeys posting variations of "I'd hit it?" At least no one's mocked the Holocaust yet, but it's still relatively early, so I won't hold my breath.

DU is just full of bigoted crap today.

[Squatch]

77. Your post makes the baby Jebus cry.

:cry:

[superduperfarleft]

87. Hahahaha! OMG y0u r00lz!!!!

[Squatch]

88. Thanks!

:thumbsup:

I had prejudged you as being a dickhead, but your compliment redeemed you.

[Chovexani]

93. "Today?"

:(

[superduperfarleft]

95. Touche. n/t

[truebrit71]

86. Why? 'Cos she's smokin' hot?

Whatever...:eyes:

[Katherine Brengle]

69. You could've chosen a better photograph dillhole.

And yes, she's African-American, just as if she were from Ireland she would be Irish-American.

[Squatch]

71. What are you talking about. That's a GREAT picture

if I do say so, myself. :toast:

"dillhole"...that's a new one on me. I'm going to have to remember that. :thumbsup:

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

97. Come on "dillhole" huh huh huh

couldn't you have at least found a picture of Charlize wearing a hi-jab and veil? :sarcasm:

I think I might be able to find a "better" picture! :P

[truebrit71]

89. I highly doubt it...the only POSSIBLE picture better than that is one where she's totally NEKKID!!!

YEAH BABY, YEAH!!!!

[Dawggie]

72. I don't care. She could be from Mars and I would still be in love with her and her talent. n/t

[Chovexani]

74. This thread encapsulates most of what is wrong with DU.

The only note that's been missed is homophobia but hey, the day's still young.

[KG]

81. truely. it would be laughable if it was on FR.

it's rather sickening to see this here, but not surprising.

[shadowknows69]

85. Johnny Depp looks like he loves the cock

You asked for it.

[truebrit71]

90. LOL!!!!

:ROFL:

Oh my God that was funny!!!

Everyone in the office is looking at me like I'm nuts....

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Chovexani]

91. You know what hurts?

Snorting DayQuil up your nose from laughing too hard.

You fucker. :D

[Sultana]

78. I vote, White Person

I always thought the in order to be called an African-American one had to have been in the States AND be a descendant of slaves.

I am African and an American citizen, I have not and will never refer to my self as a African-American.

[RandomKoolzip]

80. Her ancestors were European.

At one point, her family may have settled in Africa - but her ancestry is European. Thus, she is an African citizen of European heritage, who has just gained American citizenship and...OH JESUS WHO GIVES A FUCK?!?

[Squatch]

84. I think you have it backwards

"Her ancestors were African.

At one point, her family may have settled in Europe - but her ancestry is African."

Everybody's ancestors were African

[Breeze54]

92. That photo is photo shopped and this OP is absurd.

:crazy:

Who gives a rats ass?

She's from Africa. She has dual citizenship. She's African American.

My SIL is from Canada and she has dual citizenship. She's Canadian American.

:eyes:

Don't you have better things to do? :shrug:

I hear there's a war or two raging on....

[entanglement]

96. Looks more like a 'gringamerican' than anything

:P

[sarcasmo]

98. What a beauty.