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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:46 PM
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The Shock Doctrine: Clinton and Bosnia page 328
Naomi Klein is talking about privatizing Iraq and then says this in a footnote...

The idea that a failure to join the Washington Consensus could be enough to provoke a foreign invasion may seem far-fetched, but there was a precedent. When NATO bombed Belgrade in 1999, the official reason was Slobodan Milosevic's egregious human rights violations that had horrified the world. But in a little-reported revelation years after the Kosovo war, Strobe Talbott, deputy secretary of state under President Clinton and the lead negotiator during the war, provided a distinctly less idealistic explanation. "As nations throughout the region sought to reform their economies, mitigate ethnic tensions, and broaden civil society, Belgrade seesm to delight in continually moving in the opposite direction. It is a small wonder NATO and Yugoslavia ended up on a collison course. It was Yugoslavia's resistance to broader trends of political and economic reform-not the plight of the Kosvar Albanians-that best explains NATO's war." The revelation came out in a 2005 book, "Collison Course" NATO, Russia, and Kosovo by Talbott's former communications director, John Norris...



I remember watching the bombing of Belgrade and it really pissed me off that Clinton was bombing all the factories and bridges. I remember him saying, "We can do a Marshall Plan". That's when I knew he was bombing the state owned factories just because they weren't corporations.

Somebody needs to ask Hillary Clinton is she's read The Shock Doctrine because they are in there several times and it ain't good.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:48 PM
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1. Very few here want to know these things. (nt)
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:50 PM
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2. Yes, Clinton bombed Yugoslavia because it wasn't owned by Exxon.
And he went into Somalia because he thought he could open a Wal-Mart there.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:53 PM
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3. I guess that means you haven't read the book!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 08:55 AM
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44. I guess you don't realise that when you create a stock formula and then insist on applying it
Edited on Tue Dec-25-07 08:58 AM by cryingshame
to every single historical incident, you end up losing nuance AND depth.

I have great respect for Naomi Klein.

But as Wes Clark said about the NeoCons "when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail".

It goes for Klein as well.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:19 AM
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26. GHW Bush sent US forces into Somalia.
Get your history straight.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:01 PM
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4. kick
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:01 PM
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5. See?
*crickets*
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:11 PM
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6. Oh well, I tried.... I'm not trying to be mean to Hillary supporters..
I just really think they should read the book before they vote for her. It's really well researched and very troubling. It could be big trouble further down the road. Especially if the Clintons get back in the WH and then try to protect Bush and Cheney!
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:43 PM
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10. I bought it for my husband for Christmas.
The thing is, if she's our nominee, what then?
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:50 PM
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12. there is 11 MONTHS till the nominee is named
READ the book then start spreading the word. Buy the book for a few family members who are fence-sitting. I'm reading it now and it's amazing!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:32 PM
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47. here's a link to a factbox regarding the history of the Iowa caucus winners:
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN2636283520071226?sp=true

so there is more time than anyone would like for you to think

:hi:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:16 PM
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7. The Shock Doctrine Short Film
http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine


The Shock Doctrine Short Film
http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine/short-film


"When I finished The Shock Doctrine, I sent it to Alfonso Cuarón because I adore his films and felt that the future he created for Children of Men was very close to the present I was seeing in disaster zones. I was hoping he would send me a quote for the book jacket and instead he pulled together this amazing team of artists -- including Jonás Cuarón who directed and edited -- to make The Shock Doctrine short film. It was one of those blessed projects where everything felt fated." - Naomi Klein
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:35 PM
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9. Thanks... I hadn't heard about the short film before.
I'll have to watch that sometime soon.

Thank you again.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:21 PM
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8. AS IF,...my heart wasn't hurting,...enough. So, the corporacrats leaned on Bill.
Go figure.

They went further and treated the incident as a crime against the USA. Then, engaged a nation in complete physiological/psychological/economic sacrifice for their fucking interests.

Will this oppression EVER END?

:cry:
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:45 PM
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11. Poor, poor, misunderstood Slobivan
Give me an ever loving break. Slobivan killed millions of people. We often speak of genocide when we shouldn't. What he tried to do to the Albanians was genocide. The factories were bombed for the same reason we bomb factories in other places. They provide supplies.
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:12 AM
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24. Millions??? n/t
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:11 PM
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36. Not enough mass murder for you?
...tens of thousands - OK - millions? now we're talking war crimes!

Is that what you meant?
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:53 PM
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13. Got the book.
I haven't read a word yet. Maybe in the next few weeks.

I gotta see what all the hype is about.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:07 PM
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14. Have you seen these ?
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:09 PM
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15. Ah, Bill Clinton
who gave us NAFTA and pals around with Poppy. What a guy!
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 06:43 AM
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41. Tied with FDR as most popular President of the 20th century. Go Bill!
Edited on Tue Dec-25-07 06:44 AM by Perry Logan
The awesome Clinton record:

longest economic expansion in American history--a record 115 months of economic expansion
More than 22 million new jobs: more than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration
Highest home ownership in American history
Made the Federal government smaller (a feat matched only by Harry Truman; if you like small government, vote Democratic)
Lowest unemployment in 30 years: unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000; unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women was the lowest in more than 40 years
Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
Lowest crime rate in 26 years.
Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
Higher incomes at all levels: after falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family's income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation; all income brackets experienced double-digit growth; the bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent
Lowest poverty rate in 20 years: the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent in 1999--the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years
Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union: efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union
Paid off $360 billion of the national debt: under Clinton, we were on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009; what a difference a stolen election makes...
Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Lowest government spending in three decades
Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
More families owned stock than ever before
Most New Jobs Ever Created Under a Single Administration: Republicans really chew the rug when you mention this one, so it's worth repeating constantly
Median Family Income Up $6,000 since 1993
Unemployment at Its Lowest Level in More than 30 Years
Highest Home ownership Rate on Record
7 Million Fewer Americans Living in Poverty
Largest Surplus Ever
Lower Federal Government Spending: after increasing under the previous two administrations, federal government spending as a share of the economy was cut from 22.2 percent in 1992 to 18 percent in 2000--the lowest level since 1966
The Most U.S. Exports Ever: between 1992 and 2000, U.S. exports of goods and services grew by 74 percent, or nearly $500 billion, to top $1 trillion for the first time
Lowest Inflation since the 1960s: inflation was at the lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration, averaging 2.5 percent, down from 4.6 percent during the previous administration
The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent
The poverty rate for single mothers was the lowest ever
The African American and elderly poverty rates dropped to their lowest level on record
The Hispanic poverty rate dropped to its lowest level since 1979
Lowest Poverty Rate for Single Mothers on Record: under President Clinton, the poverty rate for families with single mothers fell from 46.1 percent in 1993 to 35.7 percent in 1999, the lowest level on record
Smallest Welfare Rolls Since 1969: between January 1993 and September of 1999, the number of welfare recipients dropped by 7.5 billion (a 53 percent decline) to 6.6 million. In comparison, between 1981-1992, the number of welfare recipients increased by 2.5 million (a 22 percent increase) to 13.6 million people
Lowest Federal Income Tax Burden in 35 Years: Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family dropped to their lowest level in 35 years
Higher Incomes even after Taxes and Inflation: real after-tax incomes grew by an average of 2.6 percent per year for the lower-income half of taxpayers between 1993 and 1997, while growing by an average of 1.0 percent between 1981 and 1993

AGAINST TERRORISM

# PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator of anti-terrorist efforts.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold the Al Qaeda millennium hijacking and bombing plots.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to kill the Pope.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
# Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
# Bill Clinton brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.
# Bill Clinton did not blame the Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after Bush left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively -- and successfully -- to stop future terrorist attacks.
# Bill Clinton named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to tighten airport security. (Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to allow for better tracking of terrorist funding. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for better tracking of explosives used by terrorists. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA.
# Bill Clinton increased the military budget by an average of 14 per cent, reversing the trend under Bush I.
# Bill Clinton tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism.
# Bill Clinton detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries.
# Bill Clinton created national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
# Of Clinton's efforts says Robert Oakley, Reagan Ambassador for Counterterrorism: "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama".
# Paul Bremer, current Civilian Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley as he believed the Bill Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden.
# Barton Gellman in the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Bill Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort".
http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/clinton.html

ON THE ENVIRONMENT
Bill Clinton issued an Executive Order on Environmental Justice to ensure that low-income citizens and minorities do not suffer a disproportionate burden of industrial pollution. Launched pilot projects in low-income communities across the country to redevelop contaminated sites into useable space, create jobs and enhance community development.

President Bill Clinton sought permanent funding of $1.4 billion a year through the Lands Legacy initiative to expand federal efforts to save America's natural treasures and provide significant new resources to states and communities to protect local green spaces and protect ocean and coastal resources. Won $652 million for Lands Legacy in the FY 2000 budget, a 42 percent increase.

Launched effort to protect over 40 million acres of "roadless areas," which include some of America's last wild places. Dramatically improved management of our national forests with an ambitious new science-based agenda that places greater emphasis on recreation, wildlife and water quality, while reforming logging practices to ensure steady, sustainable supplies of timber and jobs. Balanced the preservation of old-growth stands with the economic needs of timber-dependent communities through the Pacific Northwest Forest Plan.

Adopted a uniform tailpipe standard to passenger cars, SUVs and other light-duty trucks, producing cars that are 77 percent cleaner -- and light-duty trucks up to 95 percent cleaner -- than those on the road today. Set new standard to reduce average sulfur levels in gasoline by up to 90 percent. Once fully implemented in 2030, these measures will prevent 43,000 premature deaths and 173,000 cases of childhood respiratory illness each year, and reduce emissions by the equivalent to removing 164 million cars from the road.

# Approved strong new clean air standards for soot and smog that could prevent up to 15,000 premature deaths a year and improve the lives of millions of Americans who suffer from respiratory illnesses. Defending the standards against legal assaults by polluters.

# Accelerating Toxic Waste Cleanups. Completed cleanup at 515 Superfund sites, more than three times as many as the previous two administrations, with cleanup of more than 90 percent of all sites either completed or in progress. Secured $1.4 billion in FY 2000 to continue progress toward cleaning up 900 Superfund sites by 2002.

# Providing Safe Drinking Water: Proposed and signed legislation to strengthen the Safe Drinking Water Act and ensure that our families have healthy clean tap water. Required America's 55,000 water utility companies to provide regular reports to their customers on the quality of their drinking water.

# Established EPA's Drinking Water State Revolving Fund (DWSRF) that provides grants to States to finance priority drinking water projects that meet Clean Water Act mandates. To date, the DWSRFs have provided $1.9 billion in loans to communities.

# Awarded nearly $200 million in Department of Agriculture (USDA) loans and grants for over 100 safe drinking water projects in rural areas of 40 states. USDA grants and loans target rural communities plagued by some of the nation's worst water quality and dependability problems.

# Expanded Safe Drinking Water Act protections to protect 40 million additional Americans in small communities from potentially dangerous microbes, including Cryptosporidium, in their drinking water.

# Ensuring Clean Water. Launched the Clean Water Action Plan to help clean up the 40 percent of America's surveyed waterways still too polluted for fishing and swimming. Secured $3.9 billion since 1998, a 16 percent increase, to help states, communities and landowners in reducing polluted runoff, enhancing natural resource stewardship, improving citizens' right to know, and protecting public health.

# Strengthening Communities' Right to Know. Strengthened the public's right to know about chemicals released into their air and water by partnering with the chemical industry and the environmental community in an effort to provide complete data on the potential health risks of the 2,800 most widely used chemicals. Nearly doubled the number of chemicals that industry must report to communities, while expanding the number of facilities that must report by 30 percent.

# Expanded the community right to know about releases of 27 persistent bio-accumulative toxins (including mercury, dioxin, and PCBs). These highly toxic chemicals are especially risky because they do not break down easily and are known to accumulate in the human body.

# Secured $83 million in FY 2000 for two major new efforts to restore salmon in the Pacific Northwest: $58 million for the Pacific Coastal Salmon Recovery Fund, which provides resources for states and tribes to protect and rebuild salmon stocks; and $25 million to implement the historic Pacific Salmon Treaty with Canada, which established two regional funds to improve fisheries management and enhance bilateral scientific cooperation between the two countries and provides funding to buy back fishing permits in Washington.

# Expanding Wildlife Refuges. Added 57,000 acres, including lands along the last free-flowing section of the Columbia River, to the Saddle Mountain National Wildlife Refuge to protect salmon habitat in Washington.

# Forging Partnerships to Protect Habitat. Completed 255 major Habitat Conservation Plans (HCPs), compared to 14 before the Administration took office, to protect more than 20 million acres of private land and over 170 threatened and endangered species. These voluntary agreements protect habitat while providing landowners the certainty they need to effectively manage their lands.

# Strengthening Protections for Wildlife. Signed legislation that strengthens protections for wildlife by mandating that the most important use of our nation's wildlife refuges is giving refuge to migratory birds and other animals reliant on this rich system of natural habitat.

Protecting our Oceans and Coasts

# Creating Comprehensive Oceans Policy. Directed the development of key recommendations for strengthening federal oceans policy for the 21st century and appointed a high-level task force to oversee the implementation of those recommendations. Convened a National Ocean Conference in June 1998 that brought together government experts, business executives, scientists, environmentalists, elected officials and the public to examine opportunities and challenges in restoring and protecting our ocean resources.

# Strengthening Our National Marine Sanctuaries. Secured a funding increase of over 100% to better support national marine sanctuaries -- homes to coral reefs, kelp forests, humpback whales, and loggerhead turtles. Supporting the five-year Sustainable Seas Expeditions to explore, study and document ways to better protect underwater resources.

# Preserving Coral Reefs. Issued an Executive Order to expand protection of coral reefs and their ecosystems to address issues of coral reef management, expansion of marine protected areas and increased protections for coral reef species.

# Protecting Marine Mammals. Led negotiations resulting in a multilateral agreement to protect dolphins in the eastern tropical Pacific Ocean. Issued new standards to protect the endangered northern right whale from injuries from ships by instituting a first-ever ship reporting requirement in two areas of right whale critical habitat. Fought for creation of the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary, an area of more than 12 million square miles off the coast of Antarctica.

# Banning Ocean Dumping of Toxic Waste. Led the world in calling for a global ban on ocean dumping of low-level radioactive waste. The U.S. was the first nuclear power to advocate the ban.

Introduced "Better America Bonds" to generate $10.75 billion in bond authority over five years to preserve open space, improve water quality and clean up abandoned and contaminated properties known as brownfields. Local communities can work together in partnerships with land trust groups, environmentalists, business leaders and others to develop innovative solutions to their community's development challenges.

# Provided leadership critical to successful negotiation of the Kyoto Protocol, which sets strong, realistic targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions and establishes flexible, market-based mechanisms to achieve them as cost-effectively as possible.

# Investing in Clean Energy Research. Won more than $1 billion in FY 1999 and in FY 2000 for the Climate Change Technology Initiative, a program of clean energy research and development that will save energy and consumers money. Extended the tax credits for wind and biomass energy production through 2001, reducing emissions and reliance on imported oil.

# Growing Clean Energy Technologies. Issued an Executive Order to coordinate federal efforts to spur the development and use of bio-based technologies, which can convert crops, trees and other "biomass" into a vast array of fuels and materials. Set a goal of tripling our use of bioenergy and bioproducts by 2010 to reduce annual greenhouse gas emissions by up to 100 million tons a year -- the equivalent of taking 70 million cars off the road.

# Improving Scientific Understanding. Increased funding for the United States Global Change Research Program to more than $1.7 billion in FY 2000 to provide a sound scientific understanding of both the human and natural forces that influence the Earth's climate system. This record research budget continues strong support for the "Carbon Cycle Initiative" begun last year to improve our understanding of the role of farms, forests, and other natural or managed lands in capturing carbon.

# Energy Efficiency Standards for Appliances. Issued new energy efficiency standards for refrigerators, refrigerator-freezers, freezers and room air conditioners that will save consumers money and reduce emissions of greenhouse gases and dependence on foreign oil. The new standards will cut the average appliance's energy usage by 30 percent and save more than seven quadrillion BTUs of energy over the next 30 years, more than seven times the annual energy consumption of the entire state of Arkansas.

# Promoting federal Energy Efficiency. Issued an Executive Order directing federal agencies to reduce energy use in buildings 35 percent by 2010, reducing annual greenhouse gas emissions by the equivalent of taking 1.7 million cars off the road and saving taxpayers over $750 million a year. Forged new partnerships with industry to develop and promote energy-saving cars, homes and consumer products with the potential to save Americans hundreds of millions of dollars in energy bills and significantly curb greenhouse gas pollution.
http://www.environmentalcaucus.org/gore.html

PS: What about corruption?

Forget about it. As measured by the total number of convictions and forced resignations, Clinton's was the cleanest administration since Teddy Roosevelt.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:14 PM
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16. Seems like every past president was pulling this kind of crap
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 07:15 PM by killbotfactory
Our country doesn't take war seriously, we allow our weapons to be used to force our will on other countries and make them subservient, not for some ultimate humanitarian purpose.
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:46 PM
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17. in order to maintain our military dominance on the world
our armies need to "practice". I think that's the Machiavellian, and true, answer.
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:50 PM
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18. kick
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:25 PM
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19. Another K&R
I haven't gotten that far in the book yet, but I am not surprised.
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:42 PM
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20. Why the Balkans?
....

How do the Balkans figure in all this? The peoples of this strategically situated region have had the great misfortune of living on real estate coveted by empire after empire, all of which employed classic divide and conquer tactics by pitting one people against another. Not much has changed!

Today, there is determination that the free market and privatization must prevail. Yugoslavia committed the unpardonable sin of putting the brakes on market reforms imposed by the IMF and World Bank including the drive to privatize all public enterprises. Huge strikes by the workers had protested the reforms. President Borisav Jovic who headed the government in 1990-1991 opposed those austerity measures because of the economic havoc they were causing the people. Among others, Slobodan Milosevic, who was president of the Republic of Serbia at the time, backed him in that stance.

Numerous articles in the mainstream press have unveiled this real complaint against Milosevic. The New York Times, for example, says, "there has been little improvement in the Serbian economy, largely because of the determination of Mr. Milosevic, a former Communist, to keep state controls and his refusal to allow privatization."(48) The Christian Science Monitor put it this way: "Milosevic is harking back to the political control promised by that old Communist star on this presidency building... is revoking some privatization and free market measures." (49)

In response to this "stubbornness" by Yugoslavia, the U.S. Congress, on November 5, 1990, passed the 1991 Foreign Operations Appropriations Law 101-513. That law abruptly cut off all aid, credits and loans from the U.S. to Yugoslavia, further demolishing the economy. It also demanded separate elections in each of the six republics making up Yugoslavia and said only those forces defined as "democratic" would receive funding from the U.S. At the time this law was passed the CIA issued an unusual public report described in the New York Times in which it "predicted that the federated Yugoslavia will break apart most probably in the next 18 months and that civil war is highly likely." The article spoke of the expected impact of cutting all funds to the government as the basis of impending civil war. (50) This was one year before it actually happened and before there were any indications in the press of the impending trouble. Coupled with the increasing economic suffering of the people, this law fueled ethnic strife by providing backing for right-wing and nationalist elements. In this way, the full onslaught for the dismantling of Yugoslavia was launched.

The Allure of Rich Resources and Cheap Labor

The determination by the U.S and NATO, at all costs, to occupy Kosovo and virtually all of Yugoslavia, is spurred on by the enticement of abundant natural resources. Kosovo alone has the richest mineral resources in all of Europe west of Russia. The New York Times observed that "the sprawling state-owned Trepca mining complex, the most valuable piece of real estate in the Balkans, is worth at least $5 billion." producing gold, silver, pure lead, zinc, cadmium, as well as tens of millions of dollars in profits annually. (51)"Kosovo also possesses 17 billion tons of coal reserves and Kosovo ( like Serbia and Albania) also has oil reserves. (52)

....

http://www.agitprop.org.au/stopnato/20000104globcaus.php

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Why then did U.S. leaders wage an unrestrainedly murderous assault upon Yugoslavia?

The Third Worldization of Yugoslavia

Yugoslavia was built on an idea, namely that the Southern Slavs would not remain weak and divided peoples, squabbling among themselves and easy prey to outside imperial interests. Together they could form a substantial territory capable of its own economic development. Indeed, after World War II, socialist Yugoslavia became a viable nation and an economic success. Between 1960 and 1980 it had one of the most vigorous growth rates: a decent standard of living, free medical care and education, a guaranteed right to a job, one-month vacation with pay, a literacy rate of over 90 percent, and a life expectancy of 72 years. Yugoslavia also offered its multi-ethnic citizenry affordable public transportation, housing, and utilities, with a not-for-profit economy that was mostly publicly owned. This was not the kind of country global capitalism would normally tolerate. Still, socialistic Yugoslavia was allowed to exist for 45 years because it was seen as a nonaligned buffer to the Warsaw Pact nations.

The dismemberment and mutilation of Yugoslavia was part of a concerted policy initiated by the United States and the other Western powers in 1989. Yugoslavia was the one country in Eastern Europe that would not voluntarily overthrow what remained of its socialist system and install a free-market economic order. In fact, Yugoslavs were proud of their postwar economic development and of their independence from both the Warsaw Pact and NATO. The U.S. goal has been to transform the Yugoslav nation into a Third-World region, a cluster of weak right-wing principalities with the following characteristics:

incapable of charting an independent course of self-development;
a shattered economy and natural resources completely accessible to multinational corporate exploitation, including the enormous mineral wealth in Kosovo;
an impoverished, but literate and skilled population forced to work at subsistence wages, constituting a cheap labor pool that will help depress wages in western Europe and elsewhere;
dismantled petroleum, engineering, mining, fertilizer, and automobile industries, and various light industries, that offer no further competition with existing Western producers.
U.S. policymakers also want to abolish Yugoslavia’s public sector services and social programs — for the same reason they want to abolish our public sector services and social programs. The ultimate goal is the privatization and Third Worldization of Yugoslavia, as it is the Third Worldization of the United States and every other nation. In some respects, the fury of the West’s destruction of Yugoslavia is a backhanded tribute to that nation's success as an alternative form of development, and to the pull it exerted on neighboring populations both East and West.

In the late 1960s and 1970s, Belgrade’s leaders, not unlike the Communist leadership in Poland, sought simultaneously to expand the country’s industrial base and increase consumer goods, a feat they intended to accomplish by borrowing heavily from the West. But with an enormous IMF debt came the inevitable demand for “restructuring,” a harsh austerity program that brought wage freezes, cutbacks in public spending, increased unemployment, and the abolition of worker-managed enterprises. Still, much of the economy remained in the not-for-profit public sector, including the Trepca mining complex in Kosovo, described in the New York Times as “war’s glittering prize . . . the most valuable piece of real estate in the Balkans . . . worth at least $5 billion” in rich deposits of coal, lead, zinc, cadmium, gold, and silver.1

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http://www.michaelparenti.org/yugoslavia.html

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:56 PM
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21. Michael Parenti - Terrorism, Globalism & Conspiracy
http://www.archive.org/details/MichaelParentiMichaelParentiTerrorismGlobalismConspiracywwwgeocitiescomariainvictus



Terrorism, Globalism & Conspiracy, and the functions of fascism which has not been told in conventioonal history
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 06:30 PM
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35. Here's a chilling thought...

In the past, I had heard about al Qaeda training camps operating openly out of the Balkans which the US had decided to leave alone. Also, these particular camps are recruiting caucasians:

http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2370031

While Homeland Security has been focusing on profiling Arab-looking terrorists, what if Caucasian members are allowed to infiltrate and bring about the much hyped "Day of Islam" where nuclear bombs are set off within the US. Then we are forced to really crack down on these areas, "Americanizing" the areas and usurping their resources in the process.
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SergeyDovlatov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:08 AM
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22. That was was a huge turn off for me.
I regret to say that in 2000 I was seduced by Bush's promises of humble foreign policy and no nation building.
But I was naive. I was in the country for only 4 years and still believed that I won 4,000,000 when I was receiving those offers in the mail.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:11 AM
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23. One of the demands of the Rambouillet agreement was that Serbia privatize state-owned enterprises
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:17 AM
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25. Not sure I believe that
Do they have any better proof than a vague quote from Strobe Talbott? It doesn't add up that Clinton would bomb factories just because they weren't corporate owned. That's a real stretch.

And yes, Milosevic was a horrible leader who was killing thousands of innocent men, women and children. No vindicating that guy.
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:35 AM
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27. Trans-Balkan oil pipeline- Trepca mine
Trans-Balkan oil pipeline

It is now becoming clearer than ever that one primary reason the U.S. has been so involved in Kosovo, Bosnia, and throughout Yugoslavia, has much to do with the immense wealth to be gleaned from oil.

Construction of a major "trans-Balkan" pipeline is underway from Burgas in Bulgaria on the Black Sea, through Macedonia, to the Albanian Adriatic port of Vlore. It is being built by U.S.- owned Albanian-Macedonia - Bulgarian company (AMBO) and is scheduled to be operational by 2005. (5)

The trans-Balkan pipeline passes through what is known as corridor 8; traversing very near the borders between Macedonia, Kosovo and the Presevo Valley.

Furthermore, it is to be connected with another series of pipelines, some of them Soviet-era pipelines. A major one of these will pass down the Presevo Valley; known as corridor 10; connecting with the AMBO pipeline precisely at these same critical borders. This system of pipelines not only is designed to transport petroleum to sea ports for shipping abroad, but extends into the heart of Europe. Two branches of the AMBO line jut into Greece; one to Thessalonika, the other to a terminal on the west coast.

All of this has to do with the enormously rich petroleum fields of the Caspian Sea basin. In order to get that oil to market, one of the best routes is to pipe it to the Black Sea, ship it in tankers across the sea, and then pipe it again across the Balkans to the Adriatic Sea. This by-passes the treacherous narrow Bosporous Straits near Istanbul, which Turkey claims could not safely accommodate the heavy tanker traffic from the Black Sea to the Mediterranean. By restricting this route, Turkey is also limiting Russian oil transport through the straits and boosting its own interest in the construction of a pipeline from Baku on the Caspian Sea to the Turkish terminal at Ceyhan, which would also by-pass Russia. This route also has fluctuating support by the U.S.

....

http://www.wpc-in.org/cgi-bin/vfr?bulletin/docs/0020.htm

'Most valuable piece of real estate'

On July 8, 1998, New York Times reporter Chrisopher Hedges wrote, "The sprawling state-owned Trepca mining complex is the most valuable piece of real estate in the Balkans." Hedges described glittering veins of lead, cadmium, zinc, gold and silver. The Stari Trg mine is ringed with smelting plants, 17 metal treatment sites, warehouses, freight yards, railroad lines, a power plant and the country's largest battery plant. It is the richest lead and zinc mine in Europe. There are also 17 billion tons of coal.

It was George Soros, the multi-billionaire financier, who wrote Kouchner's script.

Paris-based journalist Diana Johnstone, in a Feb. 28 report, described a policy paper by the International Crisis Group. This is a think tank set up by Soros to provide guidance in the NATO-led reshaping of the Balkans.

The think tank publicly called on Kouch ner to take over the management of Trepca and to use the pretext of environmental hazards to shut the Zvecan smelter down. The Soros group stressed that the takeover should happen before new elections in Yugoslavia so that the opposition could blame Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic for the loss of Trepca. The elections are now six weeks away.

At the time this proposal was made there was no pollution--the lead smelter was not even in operation. It was closed for several months after the NATO bombing. Production in this state-owned industry started again only two months ago, at great sacrifice and expense. The hard currency it could have earned was desperately needed to rebuild Yugoslavia's ravaged economy.

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http://www.iacenter.org/folder04/kosovo_mines2.htm
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:40 AM
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28. Ahh, so that's why Sherman burned Atlanta
Because there weren't any corporations there.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:19 PM
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29. kick
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:31 PM
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30. Valid questions.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:48 AM
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31. kick
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:57 AM
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32. K
Edited on Fri Dec-21-07 05:58 AM by flashl
Sorry can not Rec.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 06:09 PM
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33. kick
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 06:22 PM
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34. the Columbine shootings...
I recall Clinton saying this: (paraphrasing).
'We have to teach our kids that violence does not solve anything'

meanwhile he was bombing Belgrade.
That was the first time, in my slow and painful unlearning of so many things shoved down my throat by the media, I spat on the tv at him.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:19 PM
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37. Read this book!
Edited on Fri Dec-21-07 07:19 PM by killbotfactory
Just got it. The chapter about MKUltra and the CIA handbooks, and the torture we are committing in GITMO, is informative, and the crimes that have been committed in our names is unbelievably awful.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 12:39 PM
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38. kick
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 02:54 PM
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39. Kick for lunch
:hi:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 06:04 AM
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40. ....
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 06:57 AM
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42. Thanks for this, Joanne98. I asked for this book for Christmas
and since there are only two books under the tree (I was shaking packages :evilgrin: ) and since I bought one of them (a book on scarpbooking) for my honeybabysugarpie, I'm sure I'll be catching up with you on the reading of Ms. Klein's book reeeaal soon!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:45 AM
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46. You won't be sorry!
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 06:59 AM
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43. New York Times reports that thousands of Albanians have been naming their children Bill and Hillary!
Edited on Tue Dec-25-07 07:01 AM by Perry Logan
Although reviled in many places, U.S. is adored in Kosovo.

The New York Times reports that thousands of Albanians have been naming their children Bill and Hillary.

Americans may be reviled in many parts of the world and accused of waging a war on Muslims, but they're adored in this U.N. protectorate, where the Muslim majority sees the United States as a savior.

"When I see scenes on television of people elsewhere burning American flags, I'm deeply hurt," said Dr. Besnik Bardhi, who runs a clinic in the southwestern city of Djakovica, where 1,000 people remain missing after the 1998-99 war.

Bardhi's wife was pregnant with their first child during Slobodan Milosevic's savage crackdown on Muslim ethnic Albanians in the Serbian province. The couple promised each other that if they had a girl they'd name her Madeleine, and Bill if it was a boy.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20030206/ai_n11376703
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45. kick
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