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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 01:11 PM
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VP Cheney's experience with PRISONER ABUSE: PATTERNS FROM THE PAST
Cheney Informed of "Objectionable" Interrogation Guides in 1992

PRISONER ABUSE: PATTERNS FROM THE PAST
National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 122
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB122/index.htm

U.S. Interrogation Manuals Counseled "Coercive Techniques" "Inconsistent with U.S. Government Policy"
National Security Archive Posts CIA Training Manuals from 60s, 80s, and investigative memos on earlier controversy on human rights abuses

Washington D.C. May 12, 2004: CIA interrogation manuals written in the 1960s and 1980s described "coercive techniques" such as those used to mistreat detainees at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, according to the declassified documents posted today by the National Security Archive. The Archive also posted a secret 1992 report written for then Secretary of Defense Richard Cheney warning that U.S. Army intelligence manuals that incorporated the earlier work of the CIA for training Latin American military officers in interrogation and counterintelligence techniques contained "offensive and objectionable material" that "undermines U.S. credibility, and could result in significant embarrassment."

The two CIA manuals, "Human Resource Exploitation Training Manual-1983" and "KUBARK Counterintelligence Interrogation-July 1963," were originally obtained under the Freedom of Information Act by the Baltimore Sun in 1997. The KUBARK manual includes a detailed section on "The Coercive Counterintelligence Interrogation of Resistant Sources," with concrete assessments on employing "Threats and Fear," "Pain," and "Debility." The language of the 1983 "Exploitation" manual drew heavily on the language of the earlier manual, as well as on Army Intelligence field manuals from the mid 1960s generated by "Project X"-a military effort to create training guides drawn from counterinsurgency experience in Vietnam. Recommendations on prisoner interrogation included the threat of violence and deprivation and noted that no threat should be made unless the questioner "has approval to carry out the threat." The interrogator "is able to manipulate the subject's environment," the 1983 manual states, "to create unpleasant or intolerable situations, to disrupt patterns of time, space, and sensory perception."

After Congress began investigating reports of Central American atrocities in the mid 1980s, particularly in Honduras, the CIA's "Human Resource Exploitation" manual was hand edited to alter passages that appeared to advocate coercion and stress techniques to be used on prisoners. CIA officials attached a new prologue page on the manual stating: "The use of force, mental torture, threats, insults or exposure to inhumane treatment of any kind as an aid to interrogation is prohibited by law, both international and domestic; it is neither authorized nor condoned"-making it clear that authorities were well aware these abusive practices were illegal and immoral, even as they continued then and now.

Indeed, similar material had already been incorporated into seven Spanish-language training guides. More than a thousand copies of these manuals were distributed for use in countries such as El Salvador, Guatemala, Ecuador and Peru, and at the School of the Americas between 1987 and 1991. An inquiry was triggered in mid 1991 when the Southern Command evaluated the manuals for use in expanding military support programs in Colombia.

In March 1992 Cheney received an investigative report on "Improper Material in Spanish-Language Intelligence Training Manuals." Classified SECRET, the report noted that five of the seven manuals "contained language and statements in violation of legal, regulatory or policy prohibitions" and recommended they be recalled. The memo is stamped: "SECDEF HAS SEEN."

The Archive also posted a declassified memorandum of conversation with a Southern Command officer, Major Victor Tise, who was responsible for assembling the Latin American manuals at School of the Americas for counterintelligence training in 1982. Tise stated that the manuals had been forwarded to DOD headquarters for clearance "and came back approved but UNCHANGED." (Emphasis in original)

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Read the Documents = in PDF format. .....
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 01:15 PM
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1. These lay out the use of torture, through the decades..
Only exposure and people who are truly moral can fix it.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 01:23 PM
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2. We already know the official forked tongue response to this.
We don't torture and those documents are from before 9/11--which changed everything.™
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 01:29 PM
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3. "which changed everything" Apparently not.
Edited on Sun Dec-16-07 01:30 PM by L. Coyote
Once we realize this was happening all along ... will things change?
There is a big propaganda effort underway to sell torture as a good thing.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 01:33 PM
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4. Here is a link to the KUBARK manual online
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 01:53 PM
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5. “A STUDY OF ASSASSINATION” CIA Assassination Manual
Here is part of the CIA Assassination Manual:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2459135&mesg_id=2469918

FROM: George Bush Sr. May Face Charges: Conspiring to Kidnap and Murder Political Activists
Junta Day, Dec-12-07, http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2459135
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 01:31 AM
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14. That Kimsoft website is a wonderful site for Korean-related info!
Here's the homepage: http://www.kimsoft.com/korea.htm

pnorman
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 02:00 PM
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6. My thought...
Cheney and Rumsfeld and possibly Porter Goss along with many others in the neocon circle suffer from Sexual Sadism which is one reason why camera usage was encouraged at Abu Ghraib and possibly why the CIA torture videos were made.
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 02:55 PM
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7. k&r - he is the definition of evil. period
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 03:28 PM
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8. Here's #5.
This has to go to the Greatest page.

Great catch, L. Coyote.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 03:54 PM
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9. Spinning this one off from researching historical context of US torture and murders
Found Nixon fixing elections, Reagan boys e-shredding e-mails.....
And so many parallels with same actors. Many more at this thread:

George Bush Sr. May Face Charges: Conspiring to Kidnap and Murder Political Activists
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2459135&mesg_id=2459135
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:10 PM
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17. i'll second that - k & r
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 04:25 PM
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10. I was listening to Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine" at this moment.
Edited on Sun Dec-16-07 04:38 PM by pnorman
This is my second listen; pretty well necessary when hearing rather than reading books of this nature. "KUBARK" is one of the items I jotted down several minutes ago, for later Googling! "MK ULTRA" is another. Consider getting that book. You won't regret it! (Now back to that book!)

pnorman
On edit: Here's a good interview with Naomi Klein: http://www.democracynow.org/2007/9/17/the_shock_doctrine_naomi_klein_on
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:05 PM
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11. If you investigate this subject generally, all you will find is darkness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKULTRA
Project MKULTRA, or MK-ULTRA, was the code name for a CIA mind-control research program that began in 1950, ... first brought to wide public attention by the U.S. Congress (in the form of the Church Committee) and a presidential commission (known as the Rockefeller Commission) and also to the U.S. Senate.

Although the CIA insists that MKULTRA-type experiments have been abandoned, 14-year CIA veteran Victor Marchetti has stated in various interviews that the CIA routinely conducts disinformation campaigns and that CIA mind control research continued. In a 1977 interview, Marchetti specifically called the CIA claim that MKULTRA was abandoned a 'cover story.'.

On the Senate floor in 1977, Senator Ted Kennedy said:

The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over thirty universities and institutions were involved in an 'extensive testing and experimentation' program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens 'at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign.' Several of these tests involved the administration of LSD to 'unwitting subjects in social situations.' At least one death, that of Dr. (Frank) Olson, resulted from these activities. The Agency itself acknowledged that these tests made little scientific sense. The agents doing the monitoring were not qualified scientific observers.


I have always suspected that Ted Kennedy was a target (I should not have to tell you when), and I wonder if he realizes this? It is a real catch-22 situation to be the subject of these attacks. Most targets never realize their "accident" isn't their fault. If anyone realizes and comes forward, they are branded as mentally unstable, or worse. All you can do is keep silent, or risk making your life even worse.

I discovered this book during Iran-Contra, shortly after returning from Central America.
For a time, I was the subject of significant and diverse harassment, some of it daily.
This followed an attempt on my life? in Central America, foiled by locals quickly stopping
my profuse bleeding. I was stabbed nine times in an "apparent" mugging by
two persons who stole my notes and my contact list, but not my money or billfold.
I was investigating the La Penca bombing, the murder of Linda Frazier, and the cocaine trade.

Lee, Martin; Shlain, Bruce (1985). Acid Dreams: The Complete Social History of LSD: The CIA, the Sixties, and Beyond. New York: Grove Press. ISBN 0-8021-3062-3.

This capability has advanced significantly, I'm certain. The thing that is most disconcerting today is the capability to alter an individual's mental capabilities surreptitiously slowly and in an undetectable manner, such that political activists are fully deterred from actions, and they never even realize what has happened. One direction this can take is psychotomimetic, producing psychotic symptoms which will result in medication and treatment accomplishing the final objective and, additionally, leaving the subject with a permanent stigma and a belief that they are mentally ill.

Some of the materials employed are gases that dissipate quickly and difficult to detect. They can even be released from an automobile in front of the subject.

If you try to investigate this use of gas, all you have is air.
If you investigate this subject generally, all you will find is darkness.



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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 01:26 AM
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13. I'm almost done listening to the first half of Naomi Klein's book,
and for the SECOND TIME, my blood is boiling! Concerning Margaret Thatcher's use of the Falkland Island War as a pretext to bust the coal miners union, the book, "The Enemy Within: The Secret War Against The Miners", was mentioned. I just ordered it at Amazon. Here it is: http://www.amazon.com/Enemy-Within-Secret-Against-Miners/dp/1844675084/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197872312&sr=1-1 One reviewer 'faulted' it for lacking an appendix. That is also a minor fault to me. But with Google at my disposal, I really don't need it all that much.

pnorman
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 08:00 PM
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12. kick/rec'd and bookmarked for future reference- nt
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 10:58 AM
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15. morning kick
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:20 PM
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16. visibility kick w/? Are e-mail logs flammable?
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