With the torture thing and everything including the tape situation now,

[mmonk]

there seems to be a lot of dissension between DU'ers. No need for it. How long have we known about torture? Quite awhile. The same with the lawmakers of both parties. eom.

[Gregorian]

1. I just posted the same thing. Weird.

I never repost stuff I say. But this time I will.


I watched a documentary on torture tonight.
It was on Linktv. And it was highly disturbing, with actual footage of some very disturbing events. But, and I am not in any way excusing the behavior of Congress, what I was not fully cognizant of was the degree to which we have condoned torture over our long history of aggressions. The School of the Americas teaches torture techniques. They teach how to puncture someone's eyes out. They taught the death squads in South America. We tortured in Vietnam. And when I talked with my dad about this tonight, he mentioned knowing someone who talked to him about how we tortured in World War Two. Oh, how we've tortured.

What I'm saying is nothing we all don't already know. But what I think Congress knows that we don't know, is that it's commonplace. I think this is all very fresh for us civilians. But I think Congress has known all along, just to what degree this kind of filthy, immoral, inhuman, illegal behavior has existed.

They knew. And they are saving their faces. Anyone who speaks out in Congress will have all of the other members of Congress spilling their beans for them. Exposing them. Or in other words, they are all complicit in this nightmare.

It's just another hunch that I have.

[mmonk]

2. I think the scary thing for us now,

are things such as the MCA on the books, so to speak. While before it was secretive and below the legal acceptable standards, it is now filtrating into the legal in violation of the Constitution. That's when it can take on even more of a horrifying reality (legal and public acceptance). I intend to help the organizations that fight it.