Have you ever met a right wing deadhead (Grateful Dead fan)?

[mdmc]

Anyone ever met a rightwing deadhead? I'm a head myself, and I know folk from all across the spectrum.
An interesting bunch to say the least.

[whistle]

1. I didn't think drugs could do that to people

[polichick]

3. Good one!

:rofl:

[whistle]

9. I'm glad you got it, I really did not want to have to explain myself

....as for an answer to the OP..."No!"

[mdmc]

10. well crafted my friend

:patriot::)

[Lilith Velkor]

18. Don't underestimate the drugs, man

20 years ago, I was hanging out at a Deadhead campground and everyone was too blasted to work the boom box, so I popped in a Slayer tape, and they were all like:


:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :bounce: :bounce: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

It was weird, man.

[mdmc]

58. DU'zy!

:toast:
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:patriot:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2381346

[supernova]

2. I've heard they exist

but I've never met one personally.

How do they reconcile the music with their otherwise laced up lives?

[madeline_con]

7. IMO, they must be terribly misinformed

from following the Dead all those years, and being out of touch politically, maybe? :popcorn:

[Zorra]

4. Never met one, but apparently Anne Coulter loves the Dead.

hard to believe though.

[Cirque du So-What]

8. She ignored the warnings about the brown acid N/T

[whistle]

11. Actually, Ann Coulter is into necrophilia

[Jackpine Radical]

16. Into the Dead in a whole different way.

:rofl:

[Turbineguy]

52. Does she know

about Henry Hyde?

[KamaAina]

36. Bet I know what her least favorite Dead album is

"Blues for Allah". :evilgrin:

[Gormy Cuss]

5. Button downed, pin striped types yes, but no real rightwingers. n/t

[whistle]

13. Wannabees

[Gormy Cuss]

21. At the time I figured in for the drugs not the music

but not all were like that.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

6. come to think of it...

nope, never.

:thumbsup:

[Pachamama]

12. Yeah, but they are Libertarians, not Republicans....

As Thom Hartmann says, "Libertarians are Republicans that like to get high and have sex"....

:eyes:

[whistle]

15. Alcoholic republicans might show up at a Grateful Dead concert

...but they they are there only to get laid!

[Lilith Velkor]

14. Yes, I have

He was quite personable, repugnant political views aside.

I tend to like Deadheads, but I don't like the band at all. No accounting for taste, as they say.

[cosmik debris]

17. Yes, I camped next to one at Suwanee Springfest

He had Bush stickers next to his Dead stickers on his vehicle.

Everyone who walked by would point, stare, and giggle.

[conscious evolution]

20. Did you see the guy there

with the Dead and bush stickers on the Humvee?

He got laughed at too.

[cosmik debris]

22. I missed that

But I was having a good time, so I missed a lot -- if you know what I mean.

[Dervill Crow]

19. Yes. He's a police officer. And his daughter is a Dead fan, too, and a repug. eom

[Breeze54]

23. Not ever but I hung out with many

that were high on acid and life and having a ball! :P

I went to the next to last (?) deadhead concert in Vegas, just before Garcia died. :(

I got my tickets by trading two J's for our tickets! :P

[stevedeshazer]

24. Worst people in the world

I spent four days camping out in the desert with a group of Deadheads in the mid-'80's.

They were the most narcissistic, self-righteous assholes I have ever encountered in my life.

Freepers have nothing on those self-flagellating dickheads.

Jerry Garcia deserved better followers despite being a mediocre guitar player. At least he seemed like a decent guy.

[Breeze54]

26. Then whomever you were with ....

lied to you.

[mdmc]

28. sounds like you were camping with trustafarians gone bad my friend

I agree that Jerry deserved better followers.

[Warren DeMontague]

53. Yeah, whatever, dude.

I once met four people who had their heads up their asses, who made idiotic statements around Jerry Garcia's supposed lack of talent and all sorts of inane fucking generalizations about "deadheads".

All of them had really bad skin and serious body odor.

[stevedeshazer]

55. No generalizations there

Re-read, my friend.

I have no axe to grind with Jerry, he was a better guitar player than me. Mediocre means not bad.

I was just conveying my experience, which was that these Deadheads were rude, insensitive, and self-righteous.

It was you who lapsed into personalized attacks.

For the record, my skin is fine but I might have body odor because I just got off work. I'm pretty sure I don't have my head up my ass, either.

You just reinforced the stereotype yourself, "dude". :(

Now climb down off that high horse before ya git bucked off. :)

[Warren DeMontague]

56. The implication I took from your post was that you were talking about "deadheads"

Not just "these four deadheads I once met"

I'm glad you were saying it was these four particular people you had the misfortune of camping with- who happened to be into the dead- who were, as you put it, "rude, self-flagellating", etc. as opposed to trying to make some sort of silly, lame blanket slam at Deadheads. I'm met self-described "deadheads" who were assholes, too. Sucky people sometimes like good music and vice-versa. I've met people who like the Ramones who were shitwits and people who like the Osmonds who are the salt of the Earth. I've met R.E.M. fans who are rabid Republicans. :shrug: Go figure.

If you're not trying to make a point about "deadheads" in general, then my bad. I misunderstood.

As far as Jerry's guitar playing being "mediocre".. I think one could make a decent case for Hendrix being better, but that's as far as I would go down the scale towards "not bad". But, aesthetic appreciation is nothing if not subjective.

I would have much preferred that fewer people not-really-into-the-Dead had showed up at the shows, frankly. Would have made the scene better for those of us who really did appreciate it.

[stevedeshazer]

57. Cool

Full disclosure: I'm an old-school punk rocker dating back to the late seventies. We're ALL crappy guitar players.

Johnny Ramone is a right-winger. They exist in all musical genres.

Peace. :)

[Tuesday Afternoon]

25. yes. n/t

[AndyTiedye]

27. I Heard Rumors of their Existence but Never Met Any. Been a Deadhead Since 7/16/72

[cali]

29. never met one, but I've heard rumors of their existance

I'll bet there are even some right wing Phish fans. BTW, there's one big Dead fan in the Senate. Do you know who it is?

[JohnnyBoots]

33. Leahy?

[cali]

34. bingo. you win the Senate trivia prize. n/t

[JohnnyBoots]

35. Which Senator's daughter was married to HRC's brother? n/t

[cali]

41. Senator Boxer's

wish I could think of another one.

[JohnnyBoots]

43. Nice job, this one is fairly easy: Which now Senator is credited with coming up

with the "Magic Bullet" theory in regards to JFK's assination?

[cali]

49. LOL! thanks for telling me it was easy

I haven't a clue. You stumped me.

[JohnnyBoots]

51. Arlen Spector. Thought that was fairly common knowledge around here, I'm

from PA - that may be why I thought it was easy. Questions like these would make for a fun trivial puruit edition.

[Echo In Light]

30. Gimmie Blue Cheer, Cream and Sabbath...

Ha ...right-wing "deadheads?" Sounds like a major contradiction in world views ... but then again, these kids today are brainwashed and programmed with so many mixed, conflicting messages. The commodity form is a prime means of de-fanging the heart and anti-establishment substance from {corporate} youth culture.

[Annces]

31. I have known a few

extremely conservative types who liked them. They were part of their fun youth. America is still very puritanical and hypocrisy goes along with that.

[Echo In Light]

32. Sounds like a real 'bummer' lol ...fuck you, and your wingtips, too

{not you, but ya know what I mean...}

[deaniac21]

37. What did one deadhead say to the other when they ran out of pot?

"Let's split, man, this music sucks"

[Warren DeMontague]

54. Haw! Haw! Haw! Never heard that one before. Hyuk. Hyuk.

Anyway, I'm sure whatever is in your ipod is far superior.

:eyes:

Snort.

[KamaAina]

38. You've probably heard about Coulter, but Tucker Carlson?!

Tucker Carlson?! Let me guess: he had a tie-dyed bow tie?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadhead#Celebrity_Heads

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8063563 (scroll way down to entry of 10/14/05)

Q: A few months ago, on the night of the latest Harry Potter book's release, you and Rachel and the other guest were talking about other things that had been worth waiting for, and you'd said you'd waited in line for rock concert tickets. I'm curious: who'd you wait in line for? What kind of music do you like? Who are some of your favorite bands? Sorry it's totally irrelevant to everything, but I've been wondering this for a while.
— Barrie

A: I'm not ashamed to admit it: I like the Grateful Dead, and have since childhood. Phil Lesh, the longtime bassist for the band, is coming to New York soon and we're hoping to have him on. Stay tuned.

Yeesh. Now I'm wondering if some of the more unsavory rumors about Phil's politics might actually be true. :puke:

edit: Imagine if Tucker and Coultergeist had hooked up at a show... y'know, we have no proof that they didn't... :scared: :scared: :scared:

[go west young man]

42. Down in the South there's a lot of those spoiled frat types who

drive SUV's their dads got their spoiled asses. On the back you'll see "W" stickers right alongside Dave Matthews Band, Phish, or Dead stickers. They don't even realize the musicians they adore are all against what "W" stands for. But then again they have never had to question too deeply as mom and dad covered all the bases for em. Just take a drive down any college town frat row and see this paradx for yourself. I've even met one's who loved Pink Floyd and had no idea what the lyrics are about. It stuns me when I meet these idiots.

[natrat]

39. what GD lyricist is a former republican and was a Cheney speech writer ?

[KamaAina]

40. Who is John Perry Barlow?

Wiki says he was a Cheney campaign manager :scared: .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Perry_Barlow#Biography

He is a former chairman of the Sublette County Republican Party and served as campaign manager for Dick Cheney during his 1978 Congressional campaign. By the early 2000s, Barlow was unable to reconcile his ardent libertarianism with the prevailing neoconservative movement and "didn't feel tempted to vote for Bush;" after an arrest for possession of a small quantity of marijuana while traveling, he joined the Democratic Party and publicly committed himself to outright political activism for the first time since his spell with the Republican Party. Barlow has subsequently declared that he is a Republican. He has also claimed on many occasions to be an anarchist.

He's also been involved with the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Quite the interesting character, one I'd certainly like to have a beer (or whatever :smoke: ) with. I mean, really, a Republican anarchist?!

[Warren DeMontague]

45. To be fair to Barlow, that was a long time ago, and the EFF has been VERY active fighting this admin

on things like FISA. I think they were responsible for the lawsuits against the phone carriers.

And Barlow is one of the prime movers behind the EFF, as you mention.

[Warren DeMontague]

44. I swear I remember getting in an argument with a screechy right wing blonde in a parking lot

at a Dead Show in the mid-to-late '80s. She made some snotty comment about the liberal stickers on my car, and off to the races we went.

I'm not positive who it was, but I have my strong suspicions.

[deutsey]

46. I did know a College Republican in the '80s who was stoned often enough

to be considered an honorary Deadhead. :evilgrin:

He also belonged to a fraternity and was something of a male slut when it came to sex with sorority girls.

Googling his name recently I found out that not only is he now out of the closet as a gay man, he's also a Democrat.

My, how the times do change.

[Jacobin]

47. oh hell yeah

I know two hardcore RW deadheads and one who claims to be a libertarian, voted for Bush twice

[MissB]

48. Yes.

Oh yeah. Very right wing. Does border on libertarian, but still very much steeped in the RNC.

[alcibiades_mystery]

50. Knew a couple...they were more libertarian in bent, but RW cuz of guns

Loved their guns, prattled on about "last defense against tyranny" and other gun nonsense (I'm not against guns, but that's just stupid: the state has a monopoly on violence whether people have guns or not...it's a structural thing).

[charlie]

59. John Perry Barlow

One of Dick Cheney's campaign managers, Republican county chairman, friend of Grover Norquist. Bush-Cheney pretty much cured him of the notion that Republicans would deliver freedom nirvana, though. He was for Kerry in a "the fucking house is on fire" kind of way last election.

[mdmc]

60. KICK