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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:13 PM Original message |
Memo to Mark Penn: Zogby Has a Real Dataset out on HRC's Electability |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. Actually that's what a self-selected sample looks like. NT |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yes, a textbook meaningless survey. nt |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Isn't Election Day Precisely That? n/t |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Not in the same sense no |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Replicating the Incremental Added Hassle... |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Not even close |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. What's Your Favorite, Most Puritan Form of Polling? |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Well really I'd go for a mix |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. I'd Like to See Data Broken out... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
45. But you can't "DU" or "freep" this poll; it's not an "online" poll in this sense |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. what does that make me? I took that survey... |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. a self selected sample respondent |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. My Guess? "A Likely General Election Voter" n/t |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
8. shades of 2004 all over again. Dean wasn't electable but Kerry was |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I'm Curious to See the Post-Mortem Data Showing Dean... |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Dean could have won on politics. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Hillary is not electable |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Are you a betting person? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I don't want to take your money. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Which State(s) Do You See Her Flipping? n/t |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. On a scale of likelihood? |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Two + Two Strategy |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I'm sure the campaign folks know this very well |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #34 |
50. Which Campaign Folks? |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. All of em or they don't deserve a job |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Insert Any Democratic Candidate into Tab A... |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Whh? Yes of course it does |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. You think Hillary could flip "NC, KY or maybe even TX?" |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. long shots but could. However doesn't need to. OH or FL is all |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Demographics Are Indeed Powerful... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Clinton isn't electable. It's not too early to say that. (NT) |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
15. Any way you cut it, Hillary is not a 'Repub Killer' in the General Election... |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. It's the Electoral College Math, Stupid... |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. ... and in the end, that is the ultimate trump card. n/t |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. See #33 Up-Post n/t |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
17. Who ya gonna believe.....? |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. ... Not Mark Penn, That's For Sure |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Sad but true answer? |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Polls That Aren't Normalized against the Electoral College... |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Oh absolutely agreed there |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. *Shrug* Mark Penn Says She Has 360 Electoral College Votes in the Bag... |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I think THAT's a bit optimistic |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Lie BIG... |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
31. Big problem with conclusions drawn now |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
37. Its OK, once votes start being cast she will rapidly fade away a la Dean. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Mark "Potemkin" Penn Tells Her Mountaineers Love Her... |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. .....she will rapidly fade away a la Dean. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Or Bill Clinton n/t |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Thank you!!..sincerely ..thank you! ..I wasn't a Dean Voter.. .. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. He'd Make One Helluva... |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. :)..yes he would! eom |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. His 50-State Strategy Was Brilliant, and Brilliantly Excecuted (n/t) |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
42. Well...my 2 cents worth |
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The River (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Exactly What I've Posted Here Before |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Iowa and New Hampshire... |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
51. 53 friends across this nation belong to the Zogby International/ |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Do You Have a State-by-State Breakout... |
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