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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:25 PM
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T. Boone Chickens (Swiftboater) Reneges on Bet with John Kerry!
Just up at http://www.prnewswire.com:

Looks like Boone Pickens just got proven a liar. He had to CHANGE THE TERMS of his deal, because he knows he just lost the bet!

(What's the bet? In short, Boone offered $1,000,000 to anyone who could prove the Swiftboaters liars, and Kerry took him up on it.
Read it here:http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/16/134310/90
Shortly thereafter...Pickens folds!)

Victory is sweet for Senator Kerry:

T. Boone Pickens Responds to Letter From U.S. Senator John Kerry

DALLAS, Nov. 16 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following is a copy of a
letter mailed by T. Boone Pickens in response to a letter from U.S. Senator
John Kerry regarding the Senator's military record and ads in the 2004
presidential election by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

U.S. Senator John Kerry
304 Russell Building
Third Floor
Washington DC 20510

Dear Senator Kerry:
So glad to hear from you regarding the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth
political ad campaign, and an offer I made public at an American Spectator
dinner in Washington, D.C. last week. I am intrigued by your letter, and am
certainly open to your challenge.

My concern at the Spectator Dinner was, and continues to be, that you
and other political figures were and are maligning the Swift Boat Veterans,
and I want to prevent this important part of American history from being
unfairly portrayed.
In order to disprove the accuracy of the Swift Boat ads, I will
ultimately need you to provide the following:
1) The journal you maintained during your service in Vietnam.
2) Your military record, specifically your service records for the years
1971-1978, and copies of all movies and tapes made during your
service.
When you have done so, if you can then prove anything in the ads was
materially untrue, I will gladly award $1 million. As you know, I have been
a long and proud supporter of the American military and veterans' causes. I
now challenge you to make this commitment: If you cannot prove anything in
the Swift Boat ads to be untrue, that you will make a $1 million gift to
the charity I am choosing -- the Medal of Honor Foundation.
Sincerely,

T. Boone Pickens


CONTACT: JAY ROSSER, 214-265-4165



Pickens changed the terms.

He changed the terms and he thinks we won't notice? And a liar and a coward, to boot!

Pickens is awfully old to still not have developed any sense of integrity or personal morality - is there any hope for him? All that money, and still no decency. Well, money is the root of all evil.

Maybe while he's at it, Pickens can come up with George W. Bush's TANG records. Oh that's right. Bush was womanizing and snorting coke when he should have been serving in the appointment Poppy Bush wrangled for him because he actively sought to dodge the draft.


How long did it take Pickens to fold? About 5 seconds?! How did he make so much money if he is such a pushover?

Pickens - defaming a sitting U.S. Senator during a time of war! Not very patriotic! Why does Pickens hate America?

Pickens should talk to his lawyer about Contract Law 101. Offer. Acceptance. Pickens made the offer. Kerry accepted. Done. You can't change the offer after it has been accepted. Wow - I am, quite frankly, shocked at the apparent ineptitude of this allegedly brilliant businessman.

Doesn't Texas rank near the bottom of all states for children's health care, teacher pay and pay for police officers? Kids, teachers and police can't pry those dollars out of Pickens' grizzled old hand, apparently - yet he has millions to waste on this BS. A real Montgomery Burns. Nice. (Kind of like his buddy Bob Perry, who made his millions building moldy houses, and yet can't be persuaded to solve the housing problem in his own state. He also chooses to waste millions on this BS, when people in his own backyard are going without decent housing. And he prides himself on what a "Christian" he is. Sickening.)

Pickens - be a man. You lost. Pay the $1,000,000 and shut up.



T. Boone Chickens and Dubya:


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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:27 PM
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1. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! PAY UP SCUMBAG!!!
:rofl:



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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:27 PM
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2. Another Texas Conservative Kennedy killing girlyman.
:nopity:
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:03 PM
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9. That about says it, AX10
Except I thought he was an oily cowfucker. :evilgrin:


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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:49 PM
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18. He's that too.
I consider any Conservative from Texas to be a Kennedy Killer, no exceptions.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:28 PM
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3. That's called a welsh -- do that to the mob for a million bucks...
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 10:29 PM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...and it'll be the LAST thing you do.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:03 PM
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8. Um er, the folks in Wales would disagree. He Welched on a bet. nt.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:27 AM
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20. I first had it as "welch"...
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 12:43 AM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...then googled the word -- didn't feel like I'd learned much, then went to the dictionary:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/welsh

Either spelling would appear to be correct, although I now suspect "welched" might be the more common usage/spelling here in the States.

Now get off my ass, WS!!!

:D

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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:42 PM
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40. You are defaming
the Welsh!
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #40
47. Well, if intent counts for anything (and I think it shoud)...
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 10:07 PM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...I wasn't engaged in defamation of the Welsh. However, this online etymological dictionary does seem to support your contention, suggesting that the word "welch" probably has it's roots in being used as a disparaging use of the national name Welsh.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=welch&searchmode=none

So, my bad. I'm striking this word from my mental lexicon for speaking or writing.

Thanks for the enlightenment.

:D





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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:30 PM
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4. Pickens must know he has nothing because he wipes his ass with $1,000 bills
so it would never be a money issue for him.

Haha!
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:49 PM
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5. T-Bone playing by Swiftboater rules
Scam it.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. TBoo is "juking the system."
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:12 PM
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12. Yep he can dance the "Swiftboat" with the best of the Sleaze
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 11:12 PM by StClone
So rich and still so much the same thought process as a two-bit Freepling.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:56 PM
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6. Is that $1,000,000 in US dollars?
Or is it Monopoly money?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:28 AM
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21. They're worth about the same.
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:01 PM
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7. We know all about the integrity of T. Boone here in Texas. Sorry, American and world.
"I want to prevent this important part of American history from being
unfairly portrayed." ---Sure he does.

What do they do with all the irony that they generate?
Is there some perpetual motion engine that runs on irony and death?

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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:10 PM
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11. Knew you'd welch, you lying, deceitful, dishonest little character assassinating bitch. (n/t)
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:14 PM
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13. yeah!
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:16 PM
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14. I only hope the lurker freeps and swiftboat-trolls take my comment...
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 11:17 PM by FreepFryer
...in the bipartisan and consensus-oriented manner in which I meant it.

Liars.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:18 PM
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15. Republicans would rather cheat than lose.
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 11:19 PM by Gregorian
And they end up losing a lot. Losers.

No integrity. Like a crap Cadillac with a good paint job.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:29 PM
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16. What are you talking about?
They always cheat! Sometimes they lose anyway.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:42 PM
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17. A textbook example of republican tactics..read it and LEARN
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 11:43 PM by SoCalDem
You have to be FIRST..
You have to be BOLD
You have to be CRASS
You have to tell the BIGGEST LIE possible
You have to recruit your media pals & buddies to back you up
YOU NEVER APOLOGIZE OR BACK DOWN (even when your lies are exposed)

By being first and by doing all of the above, you have permanently put your opponent in a defensive position, and anything they say can be shown to be :

1) excuses
2) retaliation against YOU (the "injured party")
3) see number 1 and number 2

REPUBLICANS WIN BECAUSE THEY ARE WILLING TO BE BOLD AND VULGAR LIARS.. and by striking first, at the STRENGTHS of their opponents..

Democrats try to analyze the weaknesses of the republicans and waste too much time trying to outthink them..

Republicans always respond like a cornered injured animal.. they attack..
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #17
35. That's a pretty darn concise summation
of their modus operandi.

:thumbsup:
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:06 AM
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19. Why does Pickens hate the troops? He won't pay his $1,000,000.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:38 AM
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22. Classic Boone
The man has a closet full of broken promises and hollow statements.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:44 AM
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23. What a fucking fraud & flip-flopper! Pickens' Challenge was unconditional - until it wasn't!!
:rofl:
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:49 AM
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24. Pickens, "I actually offered the million dollars, before I decided against it." TM ;-)
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 12:50 AM by Indi Guy
:rofl:
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:02 AM
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25. hahahahahahahahahaha
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:05 AM
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26. Precisely!!!
:rofl:
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:07 AM
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28. Thank you for nailing this fucker on the facts!
What a fucking fraud & flip-flopper! Pickens' Challenge was unconditional - until it wasn't!! -- http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2300588#2301140

Pickens, "I actually offered the million dollars, before I decided against it." TM ;-) -- http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2300588#2301164

Again -- thanks for your hard work at exposing the scumbags.

Please carry on, and be sure to intelligently fuck up every asshole who believes in the neocon agenda. The neocon's are funded by anti-American interests.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:19 AM
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27. Thank you for your hard work, in exposing hypocrisy...
...sincerely.

Please continue on :)

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 05:39 AM
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30. hahhahahaha
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 11:38 PM
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53. ROTFL!
Perfect! :rofl:
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:44 AM
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29. ...
I wish I could recommend this thread, more than once.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:53 AM
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31. Absolutely ridiculous
and completely devoid of logic (among many other things). He claims that he already knows the truth, why then does he need additional information??? Disgusting idiot.
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:03 PM
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32. Of course he does!
How can we expect anything different from liars and thieves such as this assh*le --> ( )*( ) They go for the initial effect, which lands on the front page of the news. When they are forced to tell the truth, they change the terms or their story of the truth is hidden in tiny print on some obscure back page of the newspaper.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:19 PM
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33. What a Chickenshit.
What could possibly be the reason (other than introducing after the fact a likely "deal-breaker") for demanding that Kerry provide his personal journal?

Fucking weasel.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 11:09 PM
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52. Likely because he hopes to embarras the Senator
with something he wrote as a 25 year old. Kerry's journal was not a diary where he documented what he did every day. From the excerpts in Tour of Duty it was far more a collection of what his thoughts and feelings were. They seemed remarkably honest in describing his reactions to the circumstances he was in. Some came close to the poignant question he asked the Senate. Other passages were surprisingly beautiful, almost poetic.

The fact of the matter is that nothing in the journal could change the "facts" about the claims made in the SBVT books and ads.

All of Kerry's records - including those for the time period requested were on his web site for over a year. There problem there is the right wing's bizarre assumption that Kerry got a dishonorable discharge from the INACTIVE reserves. It would seem that the Vietnam era Secretary of the Navy might in the 1970s would know that - he, aka Senator Warner praised Senator Kerry's service on the Senate floor. The fact is that there are real questions in Bush's records, but not Kerry's.

As to the tapes, in 2003 or 2004, Kerry showed all of them to Bill Keller, editor of the NYT to dispute idiotic claims that he tried to "re-create battles on the tapes". In fact, we all saw the same footage of a smiling Kerry walking towards the camera - not threatening at all in 2004 - apparently there is little footage with Kerry in it. Apparently, he mostly filmed the boats (not when they were in the narrow canals) and the scenery of Vietnam.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:27 PM
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34. Kerry should sue him for the million !
Go John Go !
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:44 PM
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36. Kick...
:kick:
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 04:56 PM
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37. Kerry should sue...
This type of case has been tested in court before, and the courts have ruled that if you make a deal to pay money in a case like this, you have to pay it out if someone meets your conditions. You can suddenly change the rules to fit your liking, if Kerry sues and the judge follows previously established legal precedent Kerry should have no problem winning his case in court.
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roxnev Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:00 PM
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38. Swift boat liars
What made you think a republican, would be honest or keep their word, they are all chickenshit and cowards.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:04 PM
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39. Nice job defending your character and exposing a fraud, Senator Kerry.
These lying scumbags have no honor.

I understand why Kerry chose to ignore these assholes during his campaign.

Kerry is a man of honor and had faith in the American People to see these lying scum for what they are.

He chose to remain above their scurrilous tactics because he is a man of honor.

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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:16 PM
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41. T Boone is a PUSSY n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:21 PM
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42. he's a bu$hbully, FUCK HIM
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:21 PM
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43. Maybe Kerry should hire a collection agency to call Pickens' home?
Hey, Republicans like Pickens seem to love bill collectors so much, why not?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:52 PM
Response to Reply #43
44. LOL They could encourage him to set up a payment plan
"Could you send the senator say, $1000 a week, Mr Pickens? He would really like to work this out without having to take it to court."

:rofl:
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:53 PM
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45. Go Get Em John.... Kerry said he can prove every allegation by these
Ass clowns is false... This should be done in a very open and public way as to severely embarass the swiftboaters before the same shit happens to our candidates in 08 over some other Right Wing Conspiracy trumped up charge...

If I was Kerry I would take to every possible level....

Let the truth ring free...
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:56 PM
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46. Can't Kerry just sue the Swiftboaters for SLANDER?
Quit screwing around, Kerry. Just take them to court and sue the pants off the dumbasses!

J
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:10 PM
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48. This country CANNOT survive another president from Texas...LBJ/GWH n/t
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:18 PM
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49. How does one malign a Hatchet Squad?
One that claimed to have no ties to the Shrub campaign?

Ginsburg and Corsi had resign heir jobs with B$ushCo in order for that to be true. After the statement was made.

And does the word LOINCLOTH mean anything to you, T?

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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:36 PM
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50. Darn! I was going to k&r this, but too much time has passed.
Thanks for the info, NormaR.
I hope Kerry still goes after the mofo.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:59 PM
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51. Kerry should go ahead and disprove it anyway
Put the evidence on the internet and invite him to download it! Why should Pickens be the only one to see it?

In certain social circles, he'd be looking at a pair of busted kneecaps.

:rofl:
rocknation
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