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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:28 PM
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Story about 'Curveball' on 60 Minutes now FWIW. nt
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:29 PM
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1. Thanks for the heads-up!
:thumbsup:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:33 PM
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2. Damn, I wanted to see that, but we're watching Reese Erlic on Book TV
C-SPAN telling how our government is telling lies about Iran. Scary!
Wish I could watch both. I hope someone will tell us all about what she has to say.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:35 PM
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3. Watching now. *kick*
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:40 PM
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4. they believed curveball because they wanted to believe curveball
let the impeachment hearings begin

this clown was totally unreliable

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:48 PM
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5. And we were fed more lies. I'm again disgusted but not surprised. nt
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:51 PM
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8. exactly!
they jusy used him for an excuse. Someone to lay blame upon. They wanted war regardless. :grr:
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bluhoodie Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:49 PM
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6. "One of the deadliest con games of all time"
Eventually "the CIA decided he was a fraud." Why did he perpetrate this fraud? To get a green card to work in Germany.

Did you notice they said also that the U.S. never even interviewed this guy, before going forward with his information.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:50 PM
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7. Hell, we were told the info wasn't reliable but they went ahead anyway. nt
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:53 PM
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11. what a bullshit ending to the story by Tyler Drumheller
Former CIA insider Tyler Drumheller has an idea. "It was a guy trying to get his Green Card, essentially, in Germany, playing the system for what it was worth. It just shows sort of the law of unintended consequences," he says.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:58 PM
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13. I was screaming at the screen when he said that. "Who could have imagined
a lone, discredited witness without a shred of corroborating evidence to his outlandish claims could fool the brightest CIA minds and lead us to a war with Iraq?"
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:52 PM
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9. It seems the CIA has a backlog......
......of ...er....problems...to take care of. These people are responsible for the deaths of over 3800 soldiers, thousands of casualties, and the waste of hundreds of billions of dollars. How should they alleviate these...er....problems?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:53 PM
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10. Atta Boy George...Tenet Made The Scapegoat Again...
Pelly implies that Tennet not only knew Curveball was "unreliable" but still went ahead with the "slam dunk" line. No mention of Chenney and his all-night sessions in Langley to get the "intel he wanted".

Tyler Drumheller is featured but this reports leaves out a lot of other details and tries to put all the blame on the CIA...not a word about the OVP is mentioned. Pelly gets a golden cocktail weenie at the next beltway drinkie drinkie party.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:57 PM
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12. My station conveniently had to run a station test
during a key part of that story. :eyes:
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 08:00 PM
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14. The only thing "new" in that report was the identity of Curveball and the accompanying video
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 08:04 PM
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15. Did I hear correctly at the beginning?
Drumheller said something like, "Well if it wasn't this particular informant it would have been another one. They wanted to go in."

And the reporter didn't even follow up with, " :wtf: are you talking about? That's insane and illegal."
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 08:05 PM
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16. So in an effort to obtain permanent residence in Germany
this pathological criminal LIAR managed to con all these so called intelligent men - I'd say they were looking for a con man.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 09:44 PM
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17. More shit-shoveling from the MSM. "It's not GWB's fault!" nt
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 10:44 PM
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18. They were informed by the UN weapons inspectors that
the story was false. The inspectors went to the so-called weapons lab and found it to be free of any Bio weapons.
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