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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:30 PM
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Jesus, Stewy, Family Guy, right-wing hypocrites and opportunists
I saw an episode of Family Guy a couple weeks ago in which Jesus is sensually showering while Stewy looks on. Jesus' genitalia are covered with soap foam, until the very end when water drips down and washes it away, but of course the scene ends before we see a naked Jesus. It's a very pedophiliac scene. Since Family Guy is on Fox, I felt it was good example of the crass opportunism of Fox and the double-standard and hypocrisy of the right wing.

To find the episode, I went to YouTube and got this, "This video has been removed due to terms of use violation."

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jesus+family+guy+stewy&search=Search

This is the image I clicked on:


If anyone can find a link to the video, it's worth posting, I think.

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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:36 PM
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1. The only value to Family Guy comes from Brian and Stewey
When they are not having dialog the show drops into poop flinging mode. The show is very much similar to the antics of Ann Coulter. Where she says things designed to drive liberals insane Family Guy does things to drive the right insane.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:43 PM
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5. Family Guy is like Ann Coulter?
I can't think of a comparison that is more silly and wrong than that. It's kind of like saying Randi Rhodes is the left's Rush Limbaugh.

Even the fart jokes are creative on FG, but it's the political satire that is genius.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:46 PM
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10. Hey, hey, remember that time we compared Family Guy to Ann Coulter?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:50 PM
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13. Cute and very meta
I approve.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:49 PM
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11. No, its the same agenda
FG uses images like homoerotic Jesus specifically to bait right wing Christians. And throwing in homoerotic Stewey on top of it just fans the flames even more. And yes, some on the left find it hilarious. But the right ... they are incensed by such imagery. Its the very same reaction that AC engenders. She throws out caustic lines that many on the right find humorous or ironic but that send the left into a tizzy. The same tizzy the right is experiencing after the lampooning of FG.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:53 PM
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14. So Family Guy and Anne Coulter are the same...
in the sense that they're completely opposite?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:19 PM
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22. Conservatives can't do comedy. So they do political commentary
Comedy from a conservative point of view cannot help but come off as cruel and mean spirited. The failure of Fox's alternate to the Daily Show should have been sufficient lessons for that. The left meanwhile can use comedy to political gain because the liberal perspective is typically that of the powerless speaking up to power. Thus humor from the left can make broad comments and use cutting ideas and not come off as mean or cruel. This preserves both the humor and the political commentary.

Ann Coulter occupies the functional position on the right of what Family Guy functions as for the left. They are both sources of commentary that push ideas to the extreme. The purpose being to incite the opposition to fits of emotional outrage thereby taking them off their composure and reducing their ability to reason. Meanwhile the proponents of each side see the comments as insightful and cutting political jabs at the opposition.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:02 PM
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18. FG is a satirical TV show, Ann Coulter is a political "author" and a RW pundit.
I really don't believe the two should be compared/contrasted at all.

IMO the Jesus example lampooned Jesus, not the RW.. Mostly because Jesus was a hard-core Liberal.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:13 PM
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20. Yeah... homoerotice Jesus enticing a baby is only aimed at Jesus
It was Seth taking on Fox and Fox's right wing audience. He was trying to punish Fox for their treatment of his show. He knows they are whores for anything that makes money so he is going to beat them over the head with the most controversial images he can manage. And he is placing their right wing agenda squarely in the target site.
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:18 PM
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21. Ann Coulter is a satirical TV Pundit.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:22 PM
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25. Why do people have such a hard time with the word "satire?"
Jesus.
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:24 PM
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26. Alrigyht Calm down mate, its a bloody joke.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:27 PM
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29. They think it's a synonym for
shitheel, liar or asshole, perhaps?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:06 PM
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19. If right wing Xtians are STILL WATCHING after all these years, then they're ENJOYING it.
Thirty seconds of the 700 Club was enough for me to BLOCK THAT CHANNEL.

They have V Chips now, the fundies need to learn to use them.

I don't see a cartoon of an historical figure who has been dead for centuries as quite the same as Coulter calling John Edwards a faggot, though. I don't see a cartoon infant who is creepily wise beyond his years as the equivalent to stating that the Jersey Girl wives 'enjoyed' their husbands' deaths.

It's not the same. The RW might try to SAY it is, but that doesn't make it so. Coulter's caustic lines hit REAL PEOPLE, and when that happens, it's called HATE SPEECH. Family Guy lines go after ideas--it might make a fundy uncomfy, but like I said, that's what the V CHIP is for.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:20 PM
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24. Xians may not watch such shows for entertainment purposes
But they do maintain watch groups that deliberately search for issues to raise an uproar amongst their fellows. Do not think for a second the the religious right somehow missed this jab at them.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:25 PM
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27. Yeah, they probably fight like hell amongst each other to get to be on the "watch group"
And they probably use it as an excuse everytime they get caught watching Taxicab Confessions or Real Sex on HBO!!!!

"But PUNKIN...I swaaaaaar....ah'm on the Church WATCH list to check for impure influences on this here tee vee....really now, Sugar...would ah lie tooo yew???"
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:37 PM
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2. Well, Family Guy is SUPPOSED to be a bit sick. That's it's schtick, after all.
It's not a kid's show, not by any stretch. It's adult humor, and it enjoys a bit of perversion. Stewie, after all, is not your average infant--he's got the personality of a dissolute fifty year old. AND he wants to kill his mother. Wrap that up in a package for Doctor Freud...

It's a show I happen to enjoy. Faux was stupid, they CANCELLED it. They had to bring it back by popular INSISTENCE.

You need to understand that Faux plays both ends against the middle. Their NEWS arm is RIGHT wing, their ENTERTAINMENT arm is LEFT wing.

See, they have it both ways. They may be evil, but they are not stupid.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:41 PM
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4. is there anything particularly left wing about Fox entertainment?
Family-values right-wingers have lots to complain about on Fox, but I don't see a coherent leftist political philosophy there.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:44 PM
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8. Its not really left wing
Its excess. But it gets tagged as liberal because the left does support many examples of what the right would consider excess. Basically its the idea of tolerance is played up to but it gets tainted by Fox's need to go tawdry. Tolerance is not about promoting extremes of behavior. Its about recognizing that there are different ways of seeing the world and different cultures and having respect for them.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:00 PM
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17. It's left wing in the sense that it doesn't go for excessive censorship
It's not Little House on the Prairie.

And it peppers its casts with people with avowed liberal leanings with regard to their societal conduct.

It's entertainment, not education--you're not going to see much "philosophy" there, be it political, theological, or anything else. What you are going to see is the bare bones FCC minimum of "nannying."
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:43 PM
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6. they brought it back for $$$ and no other reason
sorry to burst your bubble

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:49 PM
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12. That supports his point.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:56 PM
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15. WTF??? You aren't 'bursting my bubble.' But you apparently are unable to make the connection
between FAN BASE and CASH.

See, if there were no DEMAND for the program from the FAN BASE, they wouldn't make any MONEY....


:wtf:
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:41 PM
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3. Family Guy is one of the funniest shows I've ever seen.
I'm sorry something on the show was offensive to you, but that's kind of what the show is for and it's something that is not for children and also not to be taken seriously.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:44 PM
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7. Seth McFarlane, creator of Family Guy, does not like FOX, so he intentionally pushes boundaries.
They canned his show several years back due to complaints by conservative Christians and other groups over content, but the show was revived when it was picked up by Cartoon Network in its late runs, and FOX, trying to cash in on the new gold, revived the show sometime after noting a lot of people watched Family Guy reruns on CN.
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:20 PM
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23. IT was massive in Ireland and England too.
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:45 PM
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9. I saw one on the most outrageous things on the show this week.
God lit a fart and created the universe and life on earth.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:57 PM
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16. I can't help it but the show cracks me up
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:26 PM
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28. Family Guy sucks and Seth MacFarlane is an untalented hack
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 03:28 PM by Chovexani
Yeah, I said it.

The show has its moments of genuine humor, but the problem is it doesn't know when to let a joke stand. It drags shit out to the point where it kills any funny that was there. I'm forced to watch it at the break room at work during my lunch hour by the many Family Guy fanboys in my office, and I see this in every episode. Something that was mildly amusing gets hammered into the ground. The Simpsons, as played out and done as it has been for the last few seasons, is still light years better than this stupid shit.

The fact that this dreck managed to come back from the dead while Futurama was axed is a travesty, but typical for the braintrust at Fox.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:27 PM
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30. Nah, it's got great timing.
It knows just how long to drag on a joke.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:30 PM
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32. I realize these things are subjective
But it really suffers from SNL syndrome.

Like the episode I saw last night where the dad was declared retarded. The high fiving with the motivational coach was funny the first couple of times, but in true Family Guy fashion they had to do it over and over and over until I wanted to slap all the writers.

I hate that I'm surrounded by fanboys at work.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:33 PM
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33. "I read your article too Brian...
Seems to me you should spend less time working on the paper and more time (High Pitched) working on that novel you've been working on. You know, the one... (slap)"

That, and the chicken fight are the best multi-episode dragged out jokes ever! :)

People find fault in everything, it's just opinion. No biggie.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:34 PM
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34. I like how the novel Brian's working on is a running gag.
And then it turns out to have the same plot as "Iron Eagle" and its own sequels.

:rofl:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:29 PM
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31. I like Futurama, but I like FG better. If I could only have one, I'm with the family from Rhode
Island.

Vote with your remote, though--it's easy.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:50 PM
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35. "Sorry -- I'm retahhhded..."
Yeah, I'd pick Family Guy, too. I just get a kick out of hearing a reasonably believable New England accent on national TV. Most of the time, it's all this King of the Hill/Jeff Foxworthy/Dr. Phil/You Might Be A Redneck, Texas-this, Southernfried-that.




'Course there's always Mayor Quimby on The Simpsons...

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 04:03 PM
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36. It's true that "the accent" is underrepresented. And fa the life-a-me, I caaahn't
undah-staaaand why it's so HAAAAHD for people ta IMITATE!!!
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