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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 06:45 PM
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I am disheartened and becoming suspicious,
well, more suspicious than I was. There have been a lot of straws lately and this camel's back is starting to bow. The latest one being the fine way our Democratic leadership stood by Pete Stark for telling the stark truth, which as you know, they didn't. He did but they didn't. Collusion is a word that I keep hearing inside my head. I'm really, really starting to doubt my party. I know that Rethugs are evil. Are we also evil, we being our Democrats in Congress? Are we, the grassroots, being led down the primrose path? Have I been wrong?

Not that I believe that faith should have much to do with politics but honestly, I'm losing my faith. I'm getting hazy yet again about what a good patriot should do, right here, right now. I feel the way I felt in the months after 9/11, disoriented and just a bit off balance. I figured out in those crazy months what I was to do to help stem the rising tide of nationalism and the creep of fascism. Now, I doubt and again, I feel that disorientation, that weird, sickly vertigo.

I'm scared, really scared.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 06:47 PM
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1. Calling Naomi Wolf ...
If you've not seen her youtube video, it's a must. If you've not read her column in the Huffington Post, it's a must. You'll see the "start" realities.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 06:47 PM
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3. Will I be less scared?
Will I know better what I'm supposed to do?
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:10 PM
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9. No, to the first question
Yes, but the second question might change to, Will I do what I know is best to do....?
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:08 PM
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8. Here's the link...
and thanks for mentioning this. I've tried a half dozen times to relate this all and post this re: N. Wolf but to no avail. (Until now!) I'm thrilled to see someone getting the big picture. I just mentioned to my husband how sad I was not to have seen any references to her.

Thanks again.:toast:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/the-attack-on-moveonorg-_b_65629.html
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 06:47 PM
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2. I'm convinced Government is a racket
Whether it's Kings, General Secretaries, Parliament, Congress, etc...

It's one big racket
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 06:51 PM
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4. Not all Democrats are evil, just those who take their marching orders from DLC.
Vote for progressives and don't reward neocon enabling DLCers with votes.

"The Democratic Leadership Council's agenda is indistinguishable from the Republican Neoconservative agenda," http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Kucinich_DLC_agenda_undistinguishable_from_Neocon_0813.html

Let's just look at the cold, hard facts about the DLC and its record. The DLC has pushed, among other things, the war in Iraq and "free" trade policies, using bags of corporate money to buy enough Democratic votes to help Republicans make those policies a reality. They have chastised anyone who has opposed those policies as either unpatriotic or anti-business -- even as a majority of Americans now oppose the war in Iraq, oppose the DLC's business-written trade deals, and are sick of watching America's economy sold out to the highest corporate bidder. Additionally, in brazenly Orwellian fashion, the DLC has also called its extremist agenda "centrist," even though polls show the American public opposes most of their agenda, and supports much of the progressive agenda. http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0727-32.htm

The progressive movement has not just threatened this message monopoly -- it is undoing it. Through MoveOn, the rise of popular documentaries, blogs, think tanks, etc. It's not just that we talk about real values and innovative strategies. It's because we're talking, period, that the centrists feel threatened.

Hence the DLC's vicious attempts to discredit the movement. And that's what they want. They don't seek to win an argument over policy. They seek to destroy the credibility of their opponents and restore their message monopoly. http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=721

This is why the DLC is dangerous. For all their claims of supposedly wanting to help Democrats, they employ people like Marshall Wittman who specifically try to undermine the Democratic Party, even if it means he has to publicly defecate out the most rank and easily-debunkable lies. They reguarly give credence to the right wing's agenda and its worst, most unsupportable lies. They are the real force that tries to make sure this country is a one party state and that Democrats never really challenge the Republicans in a serious way. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/why-the-dlc-is-so-dangero_b_13640.html

DLC Watch, the wicked shall not escape justice http://dlcwatch.blogspot.com

Without a doubt, the DLC is the most fundamentalist organization within the caucus, the most ideologically rigid, and the most destructive to the progressive cause.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/5/24/1712/23448

These DLC types are amazing, they really are. Their pathology is unique; they all secretly worship the guilt-by-association tactics of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove, but unlike those two, not one of them has enough balls to take being thought of as the bad guy by the general public.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11275627/the_low_post_democrats_walk_themselves_to_the_gallows

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 06:56 PM
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5. Well, with a few notable exceptions, they all seem to be
So, what do we do? I know they are evil, I don't have a clue what to do about it.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 06:59 PM
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6. It seems all we have left is our vote,
so I'll repeat what I said in my previous post. Vote for progressives, and don't reward neocon enabling DLCers with votes. Other than that, I have no idea what we can do. Phoning our representatives is useless as evidenced by our calls prior to the IWR vote and prior to many other important issues. They don't listen to us; they listen to DLC.
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PoiBoy Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:03 PM
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7. Well said and excellent post...
thanks for the GREAT information and links...! Please keep up the good work..!!

:hi:
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 09:24 PM
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10. Well, at least your judgement hasn't been impaired.
n/t
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