Did Kucinich see UFOs or is Shirley nuts?

[Jersey Devil]

Kucinich Had A UFO Encounter, According To Friend Shirley MacLaine
By Eric Kleefeld - October 23, 2007, 10:19AM

In Shirley MacLaine's new book, the actress and longtime friend of Dennis Kucinich makes an interesting claim: During a visit to her home in Washington state, Kucinich said he saw a UFO and heard messages from it.

"Dennis found his encounter extremely moving," MacLaine writes. "The smell of roses drew him out to my balcony where, when he looked up, he saw a gigantic triangular craft, silent, and observing him.

"It hovered, soundless, for 10 minutes or so, and sped away with a speed he couldn't comprehend. He said he felt a connection in his heart and heard directions in his mind."

Kucinich's campaign and Congressional offices did not return calls or e-mails from the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/10/kucinich_had_a_ufo_encounter_according_to_friend_shirley_maclaine.php

[gilpo]

1. yes

[Midlodemocrat]

2. You mean "Shirley, I lived thousands of years ago, MacLaine"?

Does a bear shit in the woods? Or is that the Pope? *scratches head*

[Jersey Devil]

7. Is she the one who "channels" or is that Linda Rondstadt?

Maybe one of the Stone(d) Ponies?

[Midlodemocrat]

12. I think so. I also think she's certifiable.

Good actress, though.

[movonne]

19. It seems to me that people used to call the people that thought the

world was round nuts...I guess some people see further than others...

[Jersey Devil]

21. Is it coincidence that many of them think they were Napoleon in a former life?

How do you explain that? Napoleon?

Hell, if I were nuts I'd at least shoot for someone truly inspiring like DaVinci, Michaelangelo, Socrates, but forken Napoleon?

[movonne]

26. And how do you know they were not? I believe any thing is possible..

[Jersey Devil]

35. Were you also Napoleon?

You know, for all these people to have been Napoleon in their former lives you'd have to have alternate dimensions or the numbers wouldn't work.

[movonne]

41. Maybe Cleopatra...or maybe a scullary maid....

[texastoast]

3. If you see a UFO, are you nuts?

:shrug:

[Jersey Devil]

9. Well, I didn't say that

If he didn't see a UFO then Shirley is definitely nuts. But if Kucinich did see a UFO that doesn't necessarily make him nuts, unless he thinks something like that aliens are contacting him through his teeth or something like that.

[movonne]

17. I find when people have different beliefs than you and you call them

nuts...do you have more info than they do?...are you smarter than them? or is just your call that they are nuts...

[Jersey Devil]

18. Hmm....You could be an alien trying to lay a smokescreen

It's always the coverup!

[movonne]

28. Could be...never know..

[H2O Man]

4. Both. n/t

[Debi]

5. Yep

:thumbsup:

[Coexist]

6. magic mushrooms rock!

[mike_c]

8. what makes you think those are mutually exclusive circumstances...?

:rofl:

[Jersey Devil]

10. You think they're both nuts?

What the hell is "speed beyond comprehension"?

[lurky]

11. The late night comics are going to have a field day.

n/t

[Jersey Devil]

15. Yep, Heck, I LIKE Kucinich but I couldn't resist it

Great stuff. I wonder if he channels like Shirley. Maybe the next chapter in her book reveals that Kucinich was Julius Caesar in a former life.

[lurky]

31. A goldmine of material.

Lucky for him Colbert and Stewart are on vacation.

[CreekDog]

13. It's the Chemtrails thing that got me thinking actually

The leglislation banning "chemtrails". I can't tell you how many wacky statements and theories I've come across about those. To his credit, he disavowed the conspiracy theory and removed the language, but did he, for a moment believe that? The proponents are not providing any rational explanations, just fear and I wonder if he bought into that at all. I'd be concerned if he did.

[Baby Snooks]

14. The really strange thing

The really strange thing is that the public has such a fascination with Shirley MacLaine that she probably could become president. That said, apparently she wants to make sure Kuchinich doesn't.

[bbgrunt]

39. yep. she sure torpedoed him.

[sakabatou]

16. O RLY, Shirley?

[greyl]

20. I'd bet MacLaine is embellishing quite a bit, as usual. nt

[Jersey Devil]

22. UPDATE: Kucinich issues a non-denial denial

Kucinich Office Has No Comment On UFO Story
By Eric Kleefeld - October 23, 2007, 1:52PM

Dennis Kucinich's Congressional and campaign offices have not yet denied Shirley MacLaine's claim that Kucinich "heard directions in his mind" from a UFO while visiting her home in Washington state.

"I am not commenting on that," said Natalie Laber, press secretary for the candidate's Congressional office, when asked by Election Central.

Kucinich's presidential campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/10/kucinich_office_has_no_comment_on_ufo_story.php

[greyl]

24. Sounds like he was just saying stuff to please Shirley.

Tarot card readers and the rest of their ilk depend heavily on that phenomenon.

[monmouth]

23. George W. Bush has never talked about his experience either, but I'll bet....

[lovuian]

25. Thats so cool

Dennis Rocks
:woohoo: even the aliens like him

[greyl]

27. Where did you get the idea that MacLaine has never put bullshit into a book? nt

[Jersey Devil]

29. What kind of "directions" you think the aliens gave him?

Maybe some kind of interstellar Mapquest?

[greyl]

38. I'm starting to wonder what you heard from them. ;) nt

[Amonester]

30. I saw UFOs too!

Although they hovered soundless too far away from were I stood to feel anything else than "being puzzled" (to say the least...).

Thanks for posting this information.

And thanks to DU, I learned something new today! :woohoo:

(We're not alone!) :P

[bobthedrummer]

32. Ronald Regan made several references to threats from other lifeforms

as part of promoting SDI, he usually made announcements like those after careful consultation with Nancy and her astrologers.

Presidents Carter and Clinton both made statements about public release of government information about whatever so-called UFO's are.

Directed energy devices and weapons produce effects associated with many anomalies deliberately discredited.

Assuming primary elections are held, Dennis Kucinich has my vote, support and activism regardless of whatever Shirley Maclaine has written.

[Jersey Devil]

33. It certainly would put him above all others in the field of intergalactic diplomacy

I am still intrigued by the "directions" Shirley said the aliens gave him. Maybe something like "Turn left at Triangulum Galaxy and proceed 76 light years, then make a right at Coma Berenices..."?

[bananas]

44. Carter and Reagan both saw UFO's, so have a lot of people.

[Amonester]

34. (Partial) Screen capture from google earth:

[Jersey Devil]

36. Well, that explains everything - proof positive!

Photo of the Great Pyramid at Giza?

[Amonester]

37. Wrong.

Try again...

[Disturbed]

42. The Disclosure Project - Home Page

The Disclosure Project - Home Page
The Disclosure Project is a nonprofit research project working to fully disclose the facts about UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence, and classified ...

http://www.disclosureproject.org/

This is an interesting site.

[Totally Committed]

40. Nuts or not, and I love Shirley McLaine, with a friend like her a politician doesn't need enemies.

That was the stupidest, okay, stupid is a strong word, and judgemental... the most ill-advised, least "politic" thing to write in a book about someone she has said numerous times shuld be President. That kills any chance he'll be taken seriously now. I wonder which of his opponents floated that one? I have a guess, but the tracks are probably covered very well.

TC

[soothsayer]

43. If true, I love him more!

[bananas]

45. Jimmy Carter was attacked by a rabbit in a fishing boat

Carter was in the boat, the rabbit swam out and attacked him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_rabbit_incident

Dubbed the "killer rabbit" attack by the media, the Jimmy Carter rabbit incident involved a swamp rabbit that caught press imagination after trying furiously to board then-U.S. President Jimmy Carter's fishing boat on April 20, 1979.

Carter had gone on a solo fishing expedition in his hometown of Plains, Georgia when the rabbit approached his boat, "hissing menacingly, its teeth flashing and nostrils flared and making straight for the president",<1> trying desperately to enter the boat, causing Carter to flail at the swimming creature with the oars from his boat.

Upon returning to his office, Carter found his staff disbelieving of his story, insisting that rabbits couldn't swim, or that they would never approach a person threateningly. However, it was later confirmed that a White House photographer had in fact captured the incident on-camera.<2>

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The rabbit swimming away from the President


Carter shooing away the rabbit, at far right