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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:59 AM
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Mukasey was gotten to, he should not be confirmed
On Wednesday he preached to the choir of the Democrats & Republicans calling for the return of independence and accountability in the DOJ

On Thursday he upheld the concept of a "unitary" presidency.

Just say no to Mukasey.

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butch1227 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:14 AM
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1. Mukasey = Gonzales = Bush ass kisser
Different nominee...... same nutcase....!!!
"The more things change, the more they stay the same...."
The Dem's, which I am one, unfortunately, do NOT have the courage to block his
confirmation....!!! W-I-M-P-O-C-R-A-T-S, every last one of 'em.....!!!
'Course, they're still better than the lilly-livered, conniving, lying, cheating, chicken-hawk repugnacons...!!!!!!!!!
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:20 AM
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3. What do you think made the difference between Mukasey's Wed. testimony &
his Thur. back down?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:35 AM
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8. Intervention by the OVP is my only suspect.
Most of Cheney's career has been obsessed with restoring the empirial WH. He's apparently never gotten over his inability to prevent to be expected constraints on a presidency that went out of control during Watergate.

Cheney's got motive, opportunity, and the staff to make intimidation happen.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:17 AM
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2. There in no good option. Mukasey shouldn't be confirmed
and Keisler shouldn't stay on as Acting AG. Reject Mukasey, you get Keisler, who is undoubtedly even worse than Mukasey, and is a full fledged BFEE member.

What would you do?
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:27 AM
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5. Keisler is not an option. Mulkasey is not an option now
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 06:52 AM by Indi Guy
I would suggest that citizens who are aware of the problems in the DOJ get off their asses & speak truth to power!

I know this sounds high minded, but who's going to get the Dem leaders to reject this nomination?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:30 AM
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6. No. I mean if you were a dem Senator on the
Committee, what would you do? It's a catch-22. But thanks for responding. Most people don't want to deal with this question.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:38 AM
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9. Don't confirm, don't compromise.
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 06:38 AM by tekisui
Keisler's bad. Mukasey's bad.

I don't think Mukasey would be a measurable improvement on Keisler. Force a nominee that will deliver subpoenaed documents, cooperate and for godsake know what the hell waterbording and torture are. Block every nominee until a real AG is up. If that never happens, what's the difference?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:49 AM
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11. Without compromise, you have no democracy. Mukasey was being deferential
to the Bush history on torture, to be sure. Once he is sworn in, he could hang Bush, for all we know now. However, Keisler will not, that we know for sure.

So, pick you worse evil, and move on to the next item in the order of business, impeachment.

Mukasey is either going to be moderately acceptable or the best recent argument for impeachment. It illustrates the incredible power of a sitting resident in the Executive, and why impeachment should proceed now. Amend HR333 to include Bush, and do a two-for-one.

WHO IS Michael B. Mukasey, Bush's nominee for United States Attorney General?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2044205
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:52 AM
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12. It appears you know little
about Keisler. And not confirming Mukasey IS worse than compromise.
Again, it's a catch-22. Not confirming Mukasey leaves a key BFEE member in charge of Jutice. Do you think he's going to protect evidence pertinant to investigations? C'mon.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 07:01 AM
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13. Keisler is temporary
Mulkasey would be permanent, if confirmed.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 07:05 AM
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14. Temporary?
How long was Bill Lan Lee kept in as an Acting Asst. AG? Longer than 120 days. Who's gonna force Keisler out? No one, that's who.
And Mukasey isn't permanent. There's only 14 months left to the admin.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 04:30 PM
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15. Do you think any of that will change with Mukasey?
Mukasey may not be as transparent as Kiesler, but do you think he will do anything counter to the administration's wishes? I doubt it.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:42 AM
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10. This is a crucial question. The DOJ is a joke right now
Mulkasey was reccomended from the left.

The larger question for me is, what kind of forces are we dealing with when this candidate for the top cop in America is intimidated into retracting his support of our rule of law?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:23 AM
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4. He could not even say whether or not waterboarding
is torture.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:32 AM
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7. Exactly
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 06:32 AM by Indi Guy
I'm borrowing phrases here now. On Wed he was singing "God bless America." On Thur he was hearing, "The eyes of Texas are upon you."
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 04:44 PM
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16. It's a done deal. He will be confirmed.
Nothing will change. The Busholini Regime is still in charge.

Waxman, Leahey &/or Conyers will not issue Inherent Contempt on Josh Bolton, H. Meirs, K. Rove or the RNC. Unless that happens, nothing changes.
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