Christians United for Israel

[EFerrari]

I caught a short doc on these "people" and want to find out more.

Pastor John Hagee spearheads Christians United for Israel
CUFI to set up working groups in all 50 states, lobby Congress, become Christian AIPAC
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=20640


Here's their site:

The Bible commands us to pray for the peace of Jerusalem (Psalm 122:6), to speak out for Zion’s sake (Isaiah 62:1), to be watchmen on the walls of Jerusalem (Isaiah 62:6) and to bless the Jewish people (Genesis 12:3). These and so many other verses of the Bible that have one overriding message-- as Christians we have a Biblical obligation to defend Israel and the Jewish people in their time of need.

Israel’s time of need is now. There is a new Hitler in the Middle East --President Ahmadinejad of Iran -- who has threatened to wipe out Israel and America and is rapidly acquiring the nuclear technology to make good on his threat. If we learned anything from the Holocaust, it is that when a madman threatens genocide we must take him seriously.

During the Holocaust, too many Christians were silent, and we were left to mourn the slaughter of 6 million Jews. Today, Bible-believing Christians must speak up and stand up for Israel. We must act to do whatever we can to protect Israel’s 6 million Jews from the second Holocaust. We must get it right this time. Our faith demands it. The times require it. Silence is not an option.

Christians United for Israel is a national Christian grassroots movement focused on one issue: supporting Israel. Although we are less than two years old, we are spreading like a wildfire and are changing the nature of support for Israel in America. YOU can part of this national Christian grassroots movement. YOU can make a difference for Israel.

http://www.cufi.org/site/PageServer

Snip from an article in American Prospect, "Pastor Strangelove", Posner:

Hagee calls pastors “the spiritual generals of America,” an appropriate phrase given his reliance on them to rally their troops behind his message. The CUFI board of directors includes the Reverend Jerry Falwell, former Republican presidential candidate and religious right activist Gary Bauer, and George Morrison, pastor to the 8,000-member Faith Bible Chapel in Arvada, Colorado, and chairman of the board of Promise Keepers. Rod Parsley, the Ohio televangelist who is rapidly becoming a major political figure in the Christian right, signed on as a regional director. Among CUFI's other supporters are nationally syndicated Christian right talk show host Janet Parshall, who serves on its board of advisers, and Ron Wexler, an Orthodox Jew and president of the theocratic Ten Commandments Commission, which has the backing of nearly every prominent conservative evangelical in the country. Many popular TBN televangelists, among them the controversial faith healer Benny Hinn and the best-selling author of self-improvement books, Joyce Meyer, have also offered their support. Meyer was named one of the country's 25 most influential evangelicals in an oft-cited 2005 Time magazine article -- as was Stephen Strang, CEO of Strang Communications, which published Jerusalem Countdown. Long before his launch of CUFI, Hagee had sought to influence American policy toward the Middle East. For 25 years, he has hosted a “Night to Honor Israel” at his church, an event that showcased Tom DeLay as the keynote speaker in 2002, and that has attracted leaders of the Israeli government as well as American politicians.

http://prospect.org/cs/articles?article=pastor_strangelove

Look at their Executive Board:


Gary Bauer
President, American Values
From Sourcewatch:Gary L. Bauer founded the Campaign for Working Families CWF) in 1996 to "represent the interests and values of America's traditional families in the political arena. CWF is a "non-partisan political action committee (PAC) dedicated to electing pro-family, pro-life and pro-free enterprise candidates to federal and state offices."<1><2>

In 2000, Bauer was a presidential candidate. He served as President of the Family Research Council. "Prior to joining FRC, Bauer served in President Ronald Reagan's Administration for eight years, during the last two years as President Reagan's Chief Domestic Policy Advisor."<3>

"In the final days of the 2000 campaign, CWF spent tens of thousands of dollars on a massive 12-state Get-Out-The-Vote drive on behalf of George Walker Bush and Republican candidates down the ballot."<1>

"Previously, Bauer was under Secretary of Education beginning in July 1985, when he was confirmed by unanimous vote in the U.S. Senate. While serving at the Education Department, Bauer was named Chairman of President Reagan's Special Working Group on the Family. His report, "The Family: Preserving America's Future," was presented to the President in December 1986."<3>

Bauer is currently also president of another organization named American Values.<4> In 1973, Bauer received his law degree from Georgetown University Law School in Washington D.C.

He is married to Carol Bauer.<5>


Bishop Keith A Butler
Founder and Pastor, Word of Faith International Christian Center
Homophobe: Snip from 2004 article, "Bush Convention Appearances Marked by Anti-Gay Performances."

Butler runs the Word of Faith International Christian Center. Founded in Detroit in 1979, Word of Faith now has 18,000 members and more than 80 churches worldwide, according to GOP officials.

Bishop is an outspoken critic of gay marriage. He led a coalition of black pastors who came to Washington in June to support a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage and he supports a similar amendment drive in Michigan.

"Homosexuality is not a civil rights issue; it is a lifestyle choice, a decision, that is not natural or normal, and should not be depicted as such to our children," Butler said during the event in Washington.
http://www.gaywired.com/article.cfm?section=9&id=4047

David Brog
Executive Director, Christians United for Israel
Bio: David Brog lives and writes in Washington, DC. He worked in the United States Senate for seven years, rising to be chief of staff to a senior United States senator and staff director of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Prior to his time on Capitol Hill, Brog served as an executive at America Online and practiced corporate law in Tel Aviv, Israel and Philadelphia, PA. Brog is a graduate of Princeton University and Harvard Law School.


Pastor John C. Hagee
Founder and Senior Pastor, Cornerstone Church
President and CEO, John Hagee Ministries
Founder and National Chairman, Christians United for Israel
DU OP on Hagee from 2001: http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/01/08/18_hagee.html

Michael Little
President and Chief Operating Officer The Christian Broadcasting Network
Sourcewatch on the CBN: The mission of the Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) and its affiliated organizations, according to its website, is to prepare the United States of America and the nations of the world for the coming of Jesus Christ and the establishment of the Kingdom of God on earth. Our ultimate goal is to achieve a time in history when "the knowledge of the Lord will cover the earth as the waters cover the sea."

Multi-millionaire heir Joseph Coors serves on the Regent University (formerly called CBN University) Board of Trustees. His wife Holly Coors is on the Regent University Board of Regents. The Coors Foundation has given money to the university (Foundation Grants Index, 15th edition, 1986.)

The National Committee to Draft Pat Robertson for President, which featured Roy Rogers and Dale Evans as spokespersons, held a big fundraiser at the Dallas ranch of millionaire Nelson Bunker Hunt. Joseph Coors supported this run as well.

George Morrison
Senior Pastor, Faith Bible Chapel
CO: I think the War on Christmas was catapulted by this guy in Denver. My searches find a bunch of articles ca. 2004 from mostly RW outlets, like this one: Santa, Yes, Jesus, No
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,140545,00.html

NPR has audio on CUFI and with Max Blumenthal on this topic:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6097362

[L. Coyote]

1. This is the crowd that thinks a peacemaker in the Near East will be the anti-Christ!

And, they view Armageddon as a great thing, part of the soon-to-occur rapture. They are about as delusional as Christianity gets.

They want Israel to destroy Iran too.

[EFerrari]

6. Is it delusion or big business?

I can't really tell.

[L. Coyote]

10. There is an element of Carnies and Marks, but the loonies really believe this crap.

They seem to also believe that the Good Lord wants them to be millionaires for their hard work on his behalf.

More delusion, of course. :rofl:

[L. Coyote]

2. Rapture Ready: The Christians United For Israel Tour VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K30_Zz7tHYs

[EFerrari]

28. I'm almost afraid to watch it, but I will. Thanks! n/t

[regularguy]

3. Too bad these right wing tools didn't

discover their love for the Jewish people oh, say, 70 years ago.

[EFerrari]

7. Yep. I also just saw an interview with a writer for

Haaretz, and he said that even AIPAC is out of touch with the majority opinion in Isreal. Let alone, these guys.

[Chulanowa]

42. It's not a love for the Jewish people

In fact the driving force they have is a hope for the absolute destruction of the world's Jews. They believe that a few will convert to christianity and the rest will be slaughtered like cattle to create a big heap for Jesus to step down from the sky onto.

[pingzing58]

4. Hagee has always used an "US" and "THEM" argument to build his congregation from humble beginnings

in SAn Antonio, Texas. He's still at it. Strange thing is that the Israeli nation will never accept the divinity of Jesus the Christ without which Hagee and the others as fundamentalists and biblical literalists cannot believe that Israel will be saved. Of course Israel knows this but they still accept these Christian's financial and political help. I just don't know what Hagee is thinking. I guess becoming a millionaire after living in a garage apartment he must believe he can't be wrong.

[T.Ruth2power]

5. Read Deuteronomy

That'll raise the hackles.

These are reactionaries whatever label they claim.

[damntexdem]

13. I wonder what god, or gods, it is they worship.

Clearly some nasty, mean monster god, or gods.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. Pass the basket. The sheep-shearers need the money.

[EFerrari]

9. The film I saw was frightening. Mega churches filled with

hysterical people shaking their fists in the air. :scared:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. The preachers thrive on fear of a whole panoply of bogeymen.

The main one being that a loving and benevolent deity is gonna' toss you on the eternal barbecue if you don't cough up the dough.

"Demagogue: one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." H.L. Mencken

[LeftishBrit]

11. They sound like an insane bunch

I suspect that their basic attitudes to most things are really all that different from Ahmadejinad's, though fortunately they don't have the same power.

With friends like that, Israel hardly needs enemies (though of course it has them!) Their support is for entirely the wrong reasons, and they are utterly dangerous.

[EFerrari]

20. Exactly! With "friends" like these, who needs enemies? n/t

[Rex]

12. My parents went to Hagee's sons wedding

they knew his soon to be wife. They said the wedding was lavish beyond even obscene expectations. They sat down and talked with his son and their friend (what possessed her to marry the guy well, I didn't ask) and his future wife - within about 5 minutes they were laughing about the stupid sheeple who believe all the things daddy says. Arf arf.

People like these exist only to destroy and hate, oh yeah and to make a BOATLOAD of money!

[EFerrari]

18. Wow. That's quite a story. n/t

[musette_sf]

29. is this the son with the squeaky shrill voice

that Big John is trainin' up to take the Cornerstone helm, should he suddenly keel over from consequences stemming from his ongoing research on "The Deadly Sin Of Gluttony - How Much Is Too Much?"?

(a la Joel Osteen stepping into the fisherman's sandals left empty by the passing of Big Daddy John Osteen)

if so, then $5 says Bridezilla is a beard. (not that there's anything wrong with that)

[Rex]

41. I don't know, have no idea who many kids are in the family

I was shocked my family knew anyone that would marry into 'something like that'. Daddy gave his daughter-in-law an oil painting that was damaged so that my dad could fix it. I think he taught her in HS back in the day.

I've seen Hagee pawning his, snarf, diet book latenight on TV. He really must have A LOT of faith! :rofl:

[EVDebs]

14. They got to where they are by deception, since around 1550

The Catholic Origins of Futurism
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/antichrist.htm

The 'Left Behind' eschatology begins in the Counter-Reformation and the deception morphed into dispensationalism a.k.a 'futurism', all this to counter Martin Luther's Reformation insight about the papacy being an antichrist.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=214&topic_id=150428

Today the Protestant denominations have almost universally adopted the futurist viewpoint while Catholics, oddly, adher mainly to preterism.

In the Islamic world, the Mahdi takes on many characteristics of the False Prophet mentioned in Christian eschatology.

To say the least, we live in interesting times !

Third Temple madness is mentioned on PBS's weblink at
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week319/cover.html

[BrklynLib at work]

15. The really pathetic aspect of this is the strange bedfellows it has engendered.

There are many very ultra-orthodox, Jewish, & Pro-Israeli groups that are working with these loose-screws simply because of their "support" of Israel. Truly Macchiavellian..on both sides. The Christians are willing to take the support of the Jews, whom they hope to annhiliate as soon as the Rapture occurs, and the Jews are sleeping with dogs and expecting not to get up with fleas.

[EFerrari]

25. I have a theory (just a theory, mind you) that when you peel away

the people who believe in this cr@P! and drill down to the movers, they are a confluence of political powermongers and well heeled con artists. That this particular part of the RW mafia has nothing really to do with Israel or the Jewish people at all -- it's just a brand for them. It sure seems like it so far.

:shrug:

[BrklynLib at work]

57. Power hungry despots using religion to sway people to do their bidding...

Since time immemorial....

[BeHereNow]

16. Gary Bauer is one of the original PNACer KKKlaN- LINK:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

SCARED YET?

BHN

[EFerrari]

17. It's getting so I can SMELL PNAC a mile away.

Thanks, BHN!

[BeHereNow]

38. Like tenacles on a demonic, putrid octapus...they are every where...

Gary is one disturbed individual-
No surprise he is part of this nutcase organization.


BHN

[xchrom]

21. recommend

[NMMNG]

22. Anything to hasten the Rapture.

:eyes:

[musette_sf]

23. i see Rod Parsley is mentioned,

BFF of former secretary of state, defeated gubernatorial candidate, and crooked vote-fixing son of a b!tch Kenneth Blackwell.

[EFerrari]

26. I think we need a REALLY big map.

It's mind boggling!

[Rex]

24. Dunno about Hagee, but his son is a total fake

Dad, on the otherhand, might be one of those 'religiously insane' people we all fear and dread.

[EFerrari]

27. The apple doesn't fall far, though.

I've never spent so much time trying to figure out if people are insane or just criminals as I have since the so called "Republican Revolution".

Why are we turning out so many sociopaths?

[Devlzown]

30. Those freaks have really done their work well

here in the South. It is a very common belief down here that Israel has most favored nation status with God and America's prosperity and survival depends upon its support of Israel. Evangelical churches are the most common churches down here of course, but that belief is even widespread among people who never attend church. It's such an ingrained part of their thinking about foreign policy, along with Armageddon scenarios, that it is very difficult to get anywhere in a discussion with most of them. Very frustrating.:banghead:

[EFerrari]

37. I come from the Roman Catholic tradition and was taught

to honor the "Holy Land". I was not, however, taught that making war in the Middle East was a form of worship or that it would get me to heaven!

[Devlzown]

46. I live on the Gulf Coast and there

are more Catholics here than there are in most of the South -- it's sort of like New Orleans. I was taken to Southern Baptist churches when I was growing up :puke: so I heard a lot of that bullshit about Israel and endtimes prophecies. I'm not any particular religion now, and most of my friends, if they profess to have any religion, are Catholic or Episcopalian or belong to some other mainline denomination. It sounds awful, but I don't like being around Evangelicals much. Onthe whole, they aren't very reasonable people, and they just bring back bad memories.

[formercia]

31. Bill Moyer had a segment on Hagee last night

Here's a link to the segment on Yuotube..

http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2007/10/07/bill-moyers-hagee-strike-iran-for-israel-videos/

You have to watch it. It will creep you out.

[EFerrari]

35. Thank you! I will watch it.

:hi:

[formercia]

40. My pleasure

Note all the familiar faces that make an appearance...

:hi:

[EFerrari]

43. THIS is the report I watched earlier in the week that set me off.

BILL MOYERS JOURNAL reports on the politically powerful group Christians United for Israel, whose leader, Pastor John Hagee, advocates for a preemptive strike against Iran

And, the difference between these mofos and Freedom's Watch, for example, is that the FW brand of blind nationalism can't compete with religiosity when it comes to manipulating the public.

These people are dangerous as hell. To Israel, to Iran and to us. Hagee et all have mobilized a mob. They've carved up the US into districts and are deploying their charlatans to work 'em.

It's remarkable that these con believe they can set the world on fire and not suffer the consequences themselves. :shrug:

[formercia]

48. Control Freaks

They just love to incite mass hysteria in a group of mostly well meaning people that take their faith as its dished out to them.
People like Hagee are like a gunslinger shooting bullets at the feet of the village idiot to make them dance.

[Duppers]

53. another link - PBS / Bill Moyers

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10052007/profile.html

[Swamp Rat]

32. They forgot Ted Haggard

:D

[EFerrari]

34. LOL!

The Church of the 900 Numbers!

[Swamp Rat]

36. "The Church of the 900 Numbers!" ....... LOLOLOL!!!!!

:rofl: I LOVE IT!!!

:hug: abraços :hug:

[Maestro]

33. Hagee is a maniacal, sick man who is a favorite of the current

Texas governor, Gov. Goodhair, er, I mean, Perry. I can't stand the man. He is a true charlatan! His followers basically want war in the ME because it brings them closer to their "rapture." :eyes:

[EFerrari]

39. Who is Goodhair connected to? Every time I run these guys down

some part of the Bush mafia or their hangers on is at the center. Yick!

[Maestro]

51. He's part of the neocon, urban cowboy revolution.

He at least is from Texas, but he is a very poor representative of the state. He is so "in" with Hagee that he went to Israel sponsored by this firm: Global Capital Associates He then tried and is still trying to deinvest companies from the Texas state workers pension fund that do business with Iran and Syria. :eyes: Big Dawg apparently did some work with these guys too.

[jakefrep]

44. Just what we need....

more people who have deluded themselves into thinking Israel's shit doesn't stink.

[liberal1973]

45. These guys are worst than the KKK

[EFerrari]

49. Do we know they're not related?

:shrug:

[iamthebandfanman]

47. Jews United Against Zionism

http://www.nkusa.org/

[EFerrari]

50. Sure, but these folks are extremists as well, in their own way. n/t

[bonito]

52. HOLY BAT SHIT!

Bat shit crazy they are!

[and-justice-for-all]

54. Hagee makes me sick...

He is such a two faced bastard too. He will goto CUFI and talk out of one side of his face, then while in cult meetings of doom he will talk out the other. Hagee and his ilk are warmongering antagonist and should be considered a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION.

[leftchick]

55. God's Warriors Video

:scared:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8sW0Og-0oU

[NC_Nurse]

56. You mean "Crackpots United for Armageddon"?

That's what they should be called. :eyes: