Conyers and Kucinich for Impeachment if Bush Attacks Iran

[kpete]

Conyers and Kucinich for Impeachment if Bush Attacks Iran
Submitted by davidswanson on Mon, 2007-02-12

Congressmen John Conyers and Dennis Kucinich have suggested that they are for impeachment of Bush if he attacks Iran. Here's a two-and-a-half-minute audio clip http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/downloads/conyerskucinich.mp3 of both of them being interviewed by John Nichols.

"The degree to which this President continues to take steps to go to war against Iran without consulting with the full Congress is the degree to which he is increasingly putting himself in jeopardy of an impeachment proceeding."

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/18457

[katmondoo]

1. Good - Keep it going

[colbertforpresident]

55. Why Wait

hasn't he already committed enough crimes for impeachment???????

[itsmesgd]

2. stop him now damnit

They are aware and are prepared for shrub to start another illegal war and all they are going to do is say that next time they will stop him. By saying that we will get him next time, they have excused this "last" time.

I'm guessing that shrub would really like another "Pearl Harbor-type" event to happen here before he starts his next illegal war. If that happens king shrub will appoint himself unitary executive and might suspend Congress (for their safety, of course), then it will be too late boys.

Stop him now damnit.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

16. Yes -- now is the time, not after we slaughter people.

DO IT NOW! :spank:

[helderheid]

22. STOP HIM NOW before one more life is lost due to his insanity!

[Selatius]

3. Will Bush even listen?

If the bombs start dropping, impeachment would come the day after gasoline is 5 dollars/gallon, China stops purchasing more US treasury bonds to punish the US gov't, the US economy starts going belly-up, and the world considers the US gov't an entity to be feared like the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany. The US would no longer be a world leader in any real sense beyond mere economic and military girth.

In short, it comes after the damage has already been inflicted. Too little, too late.

[bdamomma]

19. they are cornered animals, if I hear * say he is protecting

the American people I will love to do this to him :puke: all over him

[AndyA]

4. Well at least we now know what it's going to take.

I still hold out hope that some of these investigations will uncover impeachable actions on the part of Bush and Cheney.

Oh how I hope we get to the point that another year and a half of Bush/Cheny is simply too much to tolerate! :thumbsup:

[bdamomma]

23. we will not make it if we or they do something to stop this maniac

we have an out of control government.

[PhilipShore]

5. Kick

:kick:

[Freddie Stubbs]

6. Does that mean that they are opposed to it if he doesn't attack Iran?

:shrug:

[joeunderdog]

14. This quote, "to take steps to go to war against Iran"

means that they are going to pull the trigger on him before he pulls the trigger on Iran.

I love Conyers and Kucinich. Real good guys.

[helderheid]

24. Thank you for the clarification! See this post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=190197&mesg_id=190197

[pdxprog]

58. So that means now, right?

Two carrier groups positioned in the Strait of Hormuz with a third reportedly on the way, a Navy Admiral just placed in command of a ground war, the pictures of weapons with English-language markings and Western calendar dates being trotted out and presented as being of Iranian origin this week, along with the whole rest of the drumbeat to war steadily picking up volume in the MSM -- to me, all of this clearly qualifies as "steps". As others have said repeatedly on DU, one day we'll wake up and it will have been started.

This falls firmly into the category of: "...and you, all of you, will be left to study what we do."

I really want to support Conyers and Kucinich, but this type of thing really makes me wonder if they're truly aware of the urgency, or really have the stomach to do what needs to be done.

[merh]

7. Impeachment only if he attacks?? WTF?

How about impeachment before he attacks and begins World War III?

[redqueen]

8. YES!

Finally! SOMEONE calls for some accountability!

:bounce:

[Beelzebud]

9. So Bush gets to invade Iran before we impeach? Why fucking bother...

To say I'm disappointed with the Democrat's lack of desire to stand up and fight, would be the understatement of the century.

[Individualist]

21. You're not the only one who's disappointed

and disgusted!

[Matariki]

10. Preemptive Impeachment NOW!

[malaise]

11. Great news n/t

[Cerridwen]

12. "If you hit me one more time, I'm leaving you"

What some counselors advise women whose husbands beat them NOT to say to those same husbands. The husband interprets it as, "Oh, okay, so I can hit you one more time?"

[DeeDeeNY]

57. Very good analogy

And especially true for Conyers, who constantly talked a good game about impeachment when the Dems were in the minority and led us all to believe he would actually do something if they won last November.

[silverlib]

13. The World Can't Wait

I'm more for criminal charges than impeachment, but the world is suffering more everyday.

[ninkasi]

15. I'm for impeachment now

Why let more lives be lost, when the carnage is already so horrific? There are so many reasons to impeach both Bush and Cheney, that it seems wrong not to do it. The administration is using the same methods they used before Bush illegally invaded Iraq, and just warning him not to do it just makes him more stubborn, and determined to be the "decider". You can't reason with a sociopath, you need to remove him from power.

[Jack Rabbit]

17. Impeachment is the only way the regime will be stopped

Do we have to wait for an attack on Iran? We may be talking about a nuclear strike.

Impeach Bush and Cheney now before they kill thousands more.

[bdamomma]

18. he needs to impeached now before he kills even more people

and who is to say we will not be caught in the crossfire. This must stop. :scared:

[TahitiNut]

20. Little George throws another tantrum Parents say "OK - just this once."

... and this is how the world gets another psychopath.

The bastard belongs in prison - in a padded cell. :grr:

[Dover]

25. Why wait?.. These guys need to be given hard time for their crimes.

Not prodded slowly along with carrots and sticks. Why are they even being treated as legitimate?

[cascadiance]

26. How about instead of waiting for the attack we have an "impeachometer"!

And Conyers and Kucinich, instead of waiting for that outcome to happen, have a measuring stick on every time the "compliant" corporate media and they conspire to move closer to an attack on Iran with misleading reports, premature mliitary deployments, or other such things, we move the impeachment meter closer to the "firing pin". Bush will then know if he pushes too hard now with his coporate media cronies that he will get called on the carpet! If we can have a documentation of each set of points on the impeachment meter that show how he or his propaganda machine are using lies, distortion, or other statements without factual support to try to egg us in, he's pushing us to that ultimate solution.

Then the people can see the measuring stick that we're giving Bush a chance to "behave", but he's not doing so, so then it will be time to punish their whole gang of spoilt brats!

[bdamomma]

27. should we all start calling Reps Conyers and Kucinich offices

and tell them to do it now. We need to initate some action to stop * and his thuggish regime.

[Cleita]

28. Is it off the table if he doesn't attack Iran? I want him gone before

2008. There have been so many impeachable offenses without attacking Iran, I wonder what everyone is waiting for?

[lovuian]

29. I agree a preemptive strike against Iran

is just one more notch for agressor regime Bush is promoting

[bdamomma]

45. what I keep on thinking about is that PNAC agenda and

John Dean's book "Worse than Watergate" everything Dean said among others who have this lunatic pegged, is coming true.

[eppur_se_muova]

30. ***IF***???? What's with all this IF business ??

Hasn't he done enough already? Hadn't he done that by 2004??

[mmonk]

31. Too late. He has done enough to impeach now.

[Vidar]

32. I prefer preemptive impeachment.

[Cass]

33. It will be too late by then. Better to act sooner rather than later IMO.

Hopefully one of these investigations that are going on or about to begin will unearth impeachable material that is impossible to ignore, but time is of the essence here. If he attacks Iran we are in deep sh*.

[porphyrian]

34. I'll kick that. - n/t

[pberq]

35. Impeach!

[benld74]

36. Why Wait! Get 'er dun now!

Get it started now folks. Does Congress NOT KNOW what is going on with Iran now? Are they really in a bubble of their own? For God's sake!

[newyawker99]

40. Hi benld74!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

37. They have to start impeachment now! The should get a copy of the US vs George Bush.

She's done most of the footwork!

[blues90]

38. They have enough to impeach now

All this tells me is they are threatening a couple of madmen who could care less . Once this Iran thing begins who's going to stop it ?

[walldude]

39. I'm sure the Iranian people are thrilled...

What happened to Conyers, I thought he was our impeachment bulldog? Personally I think it's a great plan, wait till he kills a few thousand more people then impeach him. :eyes:

[spanone]

41. Stop his madness now. After will be too late.

[mzmolly]

42. On another note, is this Bush's trump card?

Impeach me and I'll attack Iran? HMMMMMMMMM :freak:

[WI_DEM]

43. Lying about Iraq should be enough to impeach these bastards!!!

[tom_paine]

44. K & R for signs of hope! Impeach the bastards NOW!

Cheney has already been implicated in Plamegate. That's TREASON!

[bdamomma]

47. is this what they are waiting for Cheney to get implicated, and then

bush to instigate Iran to attack, way too late by then, they are WAR CRIMINALS, I hope the international community starts to pull the noose around their necks economically.

[in_cog_ni_to]

46. IF he attacks Iran? That's too late! He MUST be stopped before he

attacks Iran! IMPEACH NOW!

[nicknameless]

48. WTF? There's more than enough grounds to impeach him on already

Let's wait until after he bombs the hell out of another country????
How many war crimes will do it???
How many violations of the Constitution???

Argh!!!!!!!

[Kurovski]

49. Agreed.

It's crazy to wait any longer, IMO.

[nicknameless]

61. It's high time DUers were running the government

;)

[ShortnFiery]

50. K & R

:dem: :patriot:

[Doondoo]

51. K&R

[electron_blue]

52. They already have what they need to impeach him. This is weak.

Reminds me of when someone says "I'm leaving him the next time he beats me up". Yeah, right, sure you are.

I don't believe these guys.

[Cobalt Violet]

53. K& R

[dardango]

54. With Dems Like These Who Needs Neocons?

Jesus, we still need a third party in this country.

-Dar
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[Norrin Radd]

56. Before, not after, please! n/t

[govegan]

59. Damn the War on Drugs -- Bust their asses

We need, and the good citizens of the land deserve, a War On Fascism.

The world needs an enema! And I humbly suggest that we know where to drag the hose, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

FLUSH THE PUTRESCENT EXCREMENT!!!!!!

The stench is reeking to the highest heavens.

[MoonRiver]

60. I do think that is the line * dare not cross.

There is even a better than odds chance that the Senate would convict after the House impeaches.

[WCGreen]

62. I guess they have to draw yet another line in the sand....

[goodhue]

63. kick