So, how’s about we make our very own “bin Laden” video?

[eridani]

Poll question: So, how’s about we make our very own “bin Laden” video?

Why? As counterpropaganda which, if well done, could permanently spike the use of this particular psyops technique by bad guys in our government and maybe bad guys elsewhere, or at the very least those operations featuring OBL.

How? We might consider using the most recent OBL video as a template, with its ever so convenient still sections where the contemporary references were inserted. We could write up a nice speech by OBL thanking Bush for his astonishing generosity in providing so many useful pictures of broken, burned, maimed and tortured Muslim bodies for Al Qaeda recruiting videos. Maybe throw in a reference to the CIA interception of the communication in which Al Qaeda expresses worries that the US might withdraw from Iraq before they get a good chance to get the Iraqi resistance on their side. You know, the crap the neocons are pulling on us with their videos, only in reverse.

We then have to find people to do the translation into Arabic, people who can pinpoint Arabic phonemes, and people who could do the voice morphing. Slampoet has posted in my original thread that voice morphing programs are available for personal computers (news to me), and that gave me the idea in the first place. (He seems to know a lot about audio, and mentioned not being able to afford to donate to DU, so maybe he could use a paid job on the project.)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1772271&mesg_id=1780304

For the Arabic translation and phonemes part, we might start off by contacting Kevin Barrett, a well-known 9-11 Truth Movement activist whose article I quoted above. He has actually translated OBL speeches before. I’m on his email list, and could ask him. We could put out a call for others with these skills as well.

If we wanted to get beyond the YouTube level, we could make it more of a documentary, containing interviews with the people who did the work about voice morphing and psyops. It might be also be interesting to add interviews with heavyweights like William Arkin and Bruce Lawrence if they had time for the likes of us.

What about funding? An obvious thing to do would be to start a bank account specifically for the project, with some kind of legal charter. It would of course specify where the money should go if the project fell through—I’d suggest NGOs helping Iraqi civilians and Katrina victims. Alternatively, maybe one of the more well-known documentary makers or media reform organizations might want to back it or use the idea themselves.

So, whaddya think? I’ve posted a poll to gauge response.

[Ahpook]

1. Sure, why not?

I'll get a mop and dip it in black shoe polish to act as a beard. It should be about as close as these bastards do.

And that's the scary part. These fuckers don't even try to make a decent lie anymore.

[eridani]

2. The problem is that you are one of a handful who know this stuff

I was thinking more along the lines of getting the word out to the general public. Also putting egg on the faces of the rightie whackjobs who use those videos to bolster their talking points.

[spag68]

3. All you people will be on a bushco list soon.

I know nothing

[eridani]

4. You think we aren't already?

Surely the no-fly lists have brought that point home to you.

[PhD]

5. What do you hope to accomplish here?

bin laden is a horrible person and we should do nothing to promote his violent hatred.

[eridani]

6. To put the kibosh on this kind of voice-morphed propaganda once and for all

The retooled voice-morph would of course be accompanied by extensive information about how it was produced, leaving people perfectly clear that it was not an actual OBL video.

[PhD]

7. By replacing it with your own "voice-morphed propaganda"?

That will surely help the cause.

:sarcasm:

[eridani]

8. It will have a big fat PROPAGANDA sign on it, ferchrissakes!

We will tell them "This is how you fake a lie." You know, like James Randi imitated Uri Geller and demonstrated how the tricks were done. The idea is to unfool people, not fool them even more.

[Swamp Rat]

9. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[tkmorris]

10. Who said squat about promoting Bin Laden?

Son do you know where you ARE? I'm not sure what you have heard about DU but we hate Bin Laden and his ilk far more than anyone on the right does. They USE Bin Laden, as the boogeyman under the bed, to frighten all the little American children into turning over their rights and forgetting all about that pesky document we used to call the Constitution. Hell, if they didn't have a Bin Laden to act as their foil they would have had to invent one, and it's entirely possible that's precisely what they did.

[PhD]

11. I'm actually a female

But thanks for the comments. I still see no benefit in this loony scheme. It only provides more ammo for the right to paint us as out of touch and soft on terror.

[tkmorris]

12. I think it's high time

We STOP worrying about how the right will paint us, and perhaps worry more about how we paint them. The funny thing is, all we have to do is expose the truth. They have to make things up.

It should be an easy task, no?

[PhD]

13. Perhaps when you become the next Rupert Murdoch...

and take over the media, you'll be able to do as you say. Until then, he has far more ability to paint us than we have in painting them.

[eridani]

15. What kind of a world do you live in anyway?

One in which there is no difference whatsoever between what James Randi does and what Uri Geller does? I call that Cloud CooCooland.

The subject matter would not be bin Laden per se, but an analysis of propaganda, and the use of voice morphing therein. We need to make people much more suspicion of audio and video "evidence" for anything than they are.

[Parche]

19. Paint

It is better to paint with Democrat brushes, then with Republican fingers........:hi:

[Richard Steele]

16. Ok.

[AlCzervik]

20. Lighten up Phranis.

[H2O Man]

14. An editorial

in the Oneonta NY Daily Star earlier this week suggested that democrats need to do just that!

[Les Ismore]

17. Shameful & Stupid

This is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Are you some 15 year old or something? It is people like you that give Progressives a bad name.

[eridani]

21. Why is it stupid to bring up the issue of voice morphing?

Would you feel better if we tried to voice morph Limbaugh or Hannity apologizing to liberals for all the nasty stuff they've said over the years and detailing all the things they were wrong about?

[Snarkturian Clone]

18. I recall

Mad tv using OBL footage in a music video where he's singing along with cat stevens. I know it's not what you were talking about, but I remembered it and laughed.