Who Funds The DLC??

[BayCityProgressive]

Who funds the DLC?

Lookee here :

The DLC and its close associate, the Progressive Policy Institute, are the recipients of grants from many Fortune 500 companies and such right-wing foundations as the Bradley Foundation. Corporate contributors to the Progressive Policy Institute include AT&T Foundation, Eastman Kodak Charitable Trust, Prudential Foundation, Georgia-Pacific Foundation, Chevron, and Amoco Foundation. (17) The Third Way Foundation, an umbrella group of the New Democrats in the DLC, receives funding from the Lynde & Harry Bradley Foundation, Howard Gilman Foundation, Ameritech Foundation, and General Mills Foundation. According to one magazine report, the DLC enjoys funding from Bank One, Citigroup, Dow Chemical, DuPont, General Electric, Health Insurance Corporation, Merrill Lynch, Microsoft, Morgan Stanley, Occidental Petroleum, and Raytheon.

Compare to who funds AEI :

Major donors include the heavy hitters of the conservative foundation world--the Smith-Richardson Foundation, the Olin Foundation, the Scaife Foundation, and Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation (4). According to People for the American Way, corporate donors have included the General Electric Foundation, Amoco, Kraft, Ford Motor Company Fund, General Motors Foundation, Eastman Kodak Foundation, Metropolitan Life Foundation, Proctor & Gamble Fund, Shell Companies Foundation, Chrysler Corporation, Charles Stewart Mott Foundation, General Mills Foundation, Pillsbury Company Foundation, Prudential Foundation, American Express Foundation, AT&T Foundation, Corning Glass Works Foundation, Morgan Guarantee Trust, Smith-Richardson Foundation, Alcoa Foundation, and PPG Industries.

Some of these donors are quite like the others, some of these donors are kinda the same...

Any questions where the DLC's loyalties lie?

[illinoisprogressive]

1. I read that some guy called the DLC a Republican Trojan Horse.

[BayCityProgressive]

2. It is.

[BayCityProgressive]

3. if you think about it

it's pretty freakin genius. Why worry about elections and the prospect of progressive reform every four years when you can just co-opt both parties and be safe with whoever gets in?? This way no matter who wins the country will become more and more corporate. The chances of non DLC Dem getting the presidency are almost non-existant. Even if one does, they woon't get much through a congress full of traitors!

[illinoisprogressive]

4. I got this link that has some good info on the DLC

It was linked from a site where a person was proving that Obama was not tied to the DLC and they had the link.
I read it and found some good info on the DLC

http://www.blackcommentator.com/48/48_cover.html

[Morgana LaFey]

36. Now everyone should understand why the DLC has been so

virulently opposed to the real (and I do mean REAL) populists among us -- the Howard Deans, for example. Why they opposed him and denigrated and insulted his supporters in the most vicious terms when he was a candidate, and why they fought so hard to try to keep him from getting the chairmanship of the Party (which they wanted for themselves, obviously).

They should be eradicated from the Party, in fact from the face of the earth. But in the meantime, they should be opposed and exposed at every turn.

[PassingFair]

79. Tell me about it, Morgana.....

It EXHAUSTS me....

:)

[liberaldemocrat7]

59. Well then doesn't it make sense to start massive boycotts of some of these companies

that give money to the DLC to make trouble for the DLC and pressure them out of business?

Who needs a Republican party in the Democratic Party?

[Skwmom]

64. Well if they are smart enough to do that, don't you think they are

smart enough to run DLC phony "populist" candidates? Just some food for thought.

[diane in sf]

74. I used to work in the Philippines

the really rich people used to always fund both sides so they owned everyone.

[Vidar]

16. Good description.

[leftchick]

55. exactly!

And if you look at all of the conservative Dems in Congress, put there by the DLC, it has worked like a charm hasn't it?

[JackRiddler]

71. Except actually

The DLC, AEI, most of the think tanks and most of the party leaderships, whether Republican or Democratic, are corporate trojan horses.

[kath]

75. "Republican Trojan Horse" -- methinks that guy GOT IT, in 3 words.

Genius.

[Dr.Phool]

5. K&R Like they say...

Follow the money.

Is Lieberman still in the DLC? And isn't his new communications director the former head of the Progressive Policy Institute?


On edit: I had to come back and give this a rec & a kick. It should be required reading for all DU'ers.

[Doremus]

6. This is soooo depressing. :(

It's horrible to think that so many Dems are working for corporations and the allmighty buck, not us. Kinda puts all sorts of things in perspective ...

[illinoisprogressive]

8. alot of them got sucked in sometime in the 90s. The newer dems are not joining.

they know what it is. No one new is a dlc.

[BayCityProgressive]

11. If Hillary slimes her way into the white house

she will do all in her power to replace even more progressives with Bushbot DINO's.

[w4rma]

17. Yup. The DLC will be in control of the executive branch. And they'll refuse to fund progressive

candidates just like Rahm Emmanuel, a Hillary supporter probably, did.

[CrispyQ]

31. ...and the machine will tell us all to shut up about election fraud.

"See, there's a dem in the white house, a woman dem at that! Now we don't want to hear anymore about election fraud."

[Just-plain-Kathy]

35. I always thought she didn't speak out about election fraud enough.

She didn't speak against the war enough...or stopping the surge...nothing.

Her promise to end the war when she's elected makes me sick. ....Bill enacting the Iraq Liberation Act, makes me just plain mad. :mad:

[CrispyQ]

81. "Her promise to end the war when she's elected makes me sick."

My husband & I are both outraged about that.
If I had a loved one in Iraq who didn't survive the next two years, I would not forgive her delay.

STOP THE WAR NOW, HILLARY!
Not in 2 years. NOW!

[FiveGoodMen]

48. Hillary could lose the WH for the Dems by running but she'll never win.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

82. By right, Hillary shouldn't be running...period.

The right hates her...and so does half the left.

I think the reason the RW media has been crowning her the front runner is so we could all just swallow her candidacy and forget about the rest.

[Le Taz Hot]

25. Please be aware that

it is not necessary to be on the DLC roster to be DLC. DLC has become a catch phrase for what used to be termed as DINO -- a term that applies to all our candidates save for Kucinich. They're all the same candidate, people, and they're all representing the same corporate interests.

[Morgana LaFey]

37. I think that's just part of the picture

or maybe I'm just nit-picking here. Actually, I don't think what you said is inaccurate, it's just a tad incomplete IMO. For example, it's my understanding that the reverse is true as well: that the DLC can (or at least has in the past) listed elected folks as if they were "members," when in fact they were not.

I shudder to think your "all save Kucinich" is accurate, but when I think of the current field, you may indeed be right -- EXCEPT for that guy in Alaska. Gravel (pronounced with emphasis on the last syllable: gra-VEL). I'd have loved to have said you're forgetting Edwards, but he's been SUCH a disappointment lately, and that disappointment haas come directly from the direction of DLC/AIPAC too.

Well, I wonder how feasible it would be to get Gore to run again? Sigh.


Edit: I didn't even realize it, but I had this article open (where'd I get the link? don't know off-hand) and it claims that Obama had been listed without his permission. That's exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. I'm not an Obama fan, but I have no reason to doubt him on this.
http://www.blackcommentator.com/48/48_cover.html

[robinlynne]

52. I don't think ALL is correct. I think Al Gore, Howard Dean, Waxman, Feingold,

Conyers, and several others are powerful and progressive. I think they represent me.

[PassingFair]

80. Not true.... I recall the DLCers crowing about membership growth.

Remember they are also known as "New Democrats" and
the lesser "Blue Dog" group.

[RB TexLa]

7. I have funded the DLC as well

[illinoisprogressive]

9. slap! slap! lol

[BayCityProgressive]

10. well

I think the DLC is catching on to us and may be evolving again. Just because someone isn't a member of the group doesn't mean they don't work with or sympathize with them. Hopefully Obama is the real deal and not someone who is just too new to show his real colors. That's why I am going Kucinich. No surprises with him, and he calls these traitors for what they are. There is a Democratic majority but there sure isn't a people's majority. We have seen a few small reforms in the first 100 hours that were nice, but just wait. If anything that comes along to change the system in a fundemental way it will be stopped by Dem inerfighting. Department of Peace, Single-Payer Care, Withdrawal from iraq, redduction of Pentagon budget, repeal of bankruptsy bill, and moves for universal education or any type of welfare program will be opposed by many within the party.

[Nite Owl]

12. That's some good research

Thanks

I love Dennis too, he is closest to what I believe and feel that America needs. I just wonder if he can get close to pulling it off and maybe an Obama could. Would a vote for Kucinich then really be a vote for someone that is DLC, pulling them behind instead? Maybe we should try to get behind someone who has a chance of winning. My primary vote will be useless by the time it gets to NY it's all going to be over but I am close enough to drive to NH and do some door knocking. It's a vote with your heart or your head diliemma and I just don't know yet.

[BayCityProgressive]

13. Well

we also need a non DLCer who won't cave to their right wing pressure. We will see in the next few months of Obama is up to it.

[BayCityProgressive]

14. I will say that the DLC

has experienced a sequence of set backs...they tried to off Dean and he is now the party leader. the DLCers HATE him and it is rumored that Hillary and Carville want to get rid of him. Also, Pelosi, the evil San Fransisco liberal, made it all the way to house leader. She was a member of the progressive caucus. She has voted against the war, NAFTA, AND she has signed on to single-payer care in the past. I don't think they counted on blogs and groups like MOVEON to appear on the scene and I think we have knocked them back to an extent. Now it is hard for DLCers to follow DLC policies without getting thousands of enraged calls and e-mails.

I believe they do control Harry Reid though. I am pretty sure he is a member. They have a higher percentage of Dem senators than house members. I know one of my senators, Stabenow, is DLC. She voted "no" on the war but supports NAFTA opposes single payer care and has many other shitty stands on issues.

[Hardrada]

15. Like most such corporatist structures, they are too awkward

and big to really hide from our investigative facility and the rapidity of internet communication. They thrived in the relative indifference to their function which was a part of the Clinton years. Matters are too crucial now to let corporate rule go unchallenged. The more they are forced on the defensive, the more we most continue the offensive against them.

[Doremus]

21. "We have knocked them back to an extent"

I certainly do my part when they call me looking for money. hehe

...come to think of it, they haven't called since I "educated" the last caller .... <evil grin>

[Morgana LaFey]

38. Are you sure that was the DLC?

Because of their funding sources, they're not really big on individual memberships -- at all. So are you sure???

[Doremus]

43. Absolutely, positively, no question.

The DLC, Democratic Leadership Committee. Not the DNC, DCCC or the DSCC. They last called me about 2 months ago, shortly after the election and Carville's attack on Dean. I posted about it at the time. When I informed the man that henceforth I would be donating only to individual non-DLC candidates, he told me Carville did no such thing and that the internet is inaccurate. LOL

[Morgana LaFey]

51. Oh, that is funny. THe internet is inaccurate. Yah. Right.

Okay, I'm convinced.

[gulfcoastliberal]

27. Reid is most definitely the new DLC "mold": antichoice, never challenges *co, etc

I can't believe Stabenow opposes universal single payer considering she represents the auto industry.

[Clark2008]

40. But Harold Ford Jr. is "reaching out" to Obama, whatever that

means.

For the record, I voted for Ford because, even though he's DLC, he's still better than Corker.

[Bukowski Fan]

18. I believe this is why a few people

feel that their is "not a dime's worth of difference" between the two parties.

:puts on flame retardent suit:

I cannot stress enough how much damage I think the DLC is doing to our party by taking away the things that made it great. We need to shift our focus back to real economic populism instead of corporate pandering and expose the Republican "class war" for the red herring it is. This movement cannot be accomplished with the DLC and PPI exerting the policy influence that they do.

[file83]

42. Here, you can borrow mine...

[robinlynne]

53. 83 you're funny!

[femrap]

67. I agree with you 100%....

no need for the suit with me.

Welcome to DU!

[ClintonTyree]

19. Even before I read the body of your post...

I was going to say, "the same people who fund the GOP". Then I read the rest of your post and was not a bit surprised to find that I was correct. Ralph Nader is right in one respect. There isn't a dimes worth of difference between the GOP and DLC wing of the Democratic Party. They're the same corporatists in different clothing.

[PhilipShore]

20. And the CIA Military-Industrial-Complex (PNAC) regulates the day to day.....

transfer of funds. Fear is a Commodity, the selling of Wars is a Commodity . The people are just functional cogs in a war machine.

Military-industrial complex
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military-industrial_complex

The term military-industrial complex (MIC) refers to a close and symbiotic relationship between a nation's armed forces, its arms industry, and associated political and commercial interests. In such a system, the military is dependent on industry to supply material and other support, while the defense industry depends on government for a steady revenue stream.

The term is most often used in reference to the United States, where it gained popularity after its use in the farewell address of President Dwight D. Eisenhower. As pejorative terms, the "MIC" or the "iron triangle" refer to an institutionalised collusion among defense contractors (industry), The Pentagon (military), and the United States government (Congress, Executive branch), as a cartel that works against the public interest, and whose motivation is profiteering.

_______________________________________

Project for the New American Century
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) is a US political neo-conservative think tank, based in Washington, DC co-founded by William Kristol and Robert Kagan. The group was established in early 1997 as a non-profit organization with the goal of promoting US global hegemony. The chairman is William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard and a regular guest on the Fox News Channel. The group is an initiative of the New Citizenship Project, a 501(c)(3) organization that has been funded by the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the John M. Olin Foundation and the Bradley Foundation.<1>

The present active contributers are Gary Schmitt and Ellen Bork.

Former members include prominent members of the Republican Party and the Bush Administration, including Richard Armitage, William J. Bennett, Jeb Bush, Ellen Bork (the daughter of Robert Bork), Dick Cheney, Zalmay Khalilzad, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Richard Perle, former U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz. Many of the organization's ideas, and its members, are associated with the neoconservative movement. PNAC, at one point, had seven full-time staff members, in addition to its board of directors. It now has one full-time staffer.

[bonito]

22. Democratic Liquidation Council

Read this on a blog somewhere, fitting yes?

[KoKo]

23. LOL's.....a catchyphrase with much truth.....n/t

[Cobalt Violet]

24. K& R. Excellent research.

No question here about DLC's loyalties.

[Le Taz Hot]

26. Dupe

Woopsie!

[In Truth We Trust]

28. DLC= Destroy Liberal Causes. Brought to you by Fortune Five Hundred

[leveymg]

47. Self-delete

[keepCAblue]

29. DLC bullied Gore to pick Lieberman as 2000 running mate

Much to Gore's chagrin...

DLC is as much of a "democratic" organization as Joe Lieberman is a "democratic" politician.

[rucky]

30. I hate to say this, but...

the Lyndon LaRouche people were all over this years ago (ties between DLC & AEI).

Even a broken clock...

[leftofthedial]

32. Our wealthy enemies in the class war

the electoral process is no longer a tool we can use to effect political change.

[Individualist]

33. No question at all about DLC's loyalties

The only thing worse than a neocon is a neocon enabler. :puke:

[lonestarnot]

34. Icky.

[Individualist]

39. kick

Everyone should know about this.

[cui bono]

41. sickening

This is the sort of thing that makes me give up hope. :(

[Jcrowley]

44. K&R

[leveymg]

45. Where did you get this data?

Knockout work, if you put it together yourself. What are your source(s)?

[leftchick]

56. I found some links from this site

http://spacetimecurves.blogspot.com/2004/12/unsurprising-bedfellows.html

[LWolf]

46. No surprise. The big question:

Knowing this, why do so many Democrats support DLC candidates?

[SaveElmer]

57. Because non-DLC candidates....

Get money from these same sources...

[LWolf]

58. What a surprise.

That SaveElmer would jump into defend the DLC, lol.

Would it be more accurate to state that some non-DLC candidates may get money from some of the same sources?

[SaveElmer]

60. I daresay...

That most do...

A quick look at the FEC records show Barbara Boxer and Ted Kennedy for example, get money from folks that make people here howl in protest when it is revealed Hillary Clinton gets money from them...

[LWolf]

61. Got a link?

I'd like to browse at my convenience; that's useful information.

[SaveElmer]

63. ...

www.fec.gov The generic site...

Not the easiest search too in the world...takes a bit of getting used to

Here is Ted Kennedy's for reference...

Among those listed Fox Newscorp, Clear Channel radio, Rupert Murdoch, General Dynamics, Microsoft, Medtronic...and several big Pharma companies...



http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/can_give/2005_S6MA00015

[LWolf]

65. I see that it's not the easiest search tool.

So far I've tried two candidates, and got back zero results. I'll keep playing with it, thanks.

[SaveElmer]

66. No problem... make sure...

To pick a campaign cycle...for example...Ted Kennedy won't come up under 2007...that was my error at first

It's kinda tricky!

[SaveElmer]

49. I daresay...

You will find virtually all of these companies have contributed to many, many Democratic candidates as well...so what is the difference?

For example...why would Barbara Boxer and Ted Kennedy need to take money from Fox Newscorp...which both have


Take a look at the FEC report for many of the DU anointed ones, and I'll bet most of these companies are among those listed!!!

[Burried News]

50. Google "Steinhardt Bronfman DLC"

You'll get some interesting hits.

[porphyrian]

54. I'll kick that. - n/t

[Geek_Girl]

62. Progressive who appear on TV talking head shows needs to start talking openly about the DLC

The American public is becoming more aware of the neocon agenda. Progressive democrats need to start shinning the light on the problems in our own party and progressives need to stop supporting the less evil of the candidates and start supporting true progressives. Otherwise nothing is going to change.

[mzmolly]

68. Corporations give to political groups.

The amounts given to various parties generally vary greatly by industry, however.

[illinoisprogressive]

69. The DLC has lost power and I think they tried to push obama in because of his fame

when he demanded to be put off the rolls and mailing list as he was not interested they left him alone. Now that Ford is DLC they are trying to get Obama again and Ford claims he talked to Obama and he said he would talk to them. But, It sounded more like when you say, yeah, we] will get together. Call me sometime. kind of thing. Like being nice and polite but, not really meaning it.
Obama does not want to be DLC or have anything to do with them.
Most of the new candidates are not interested. They are very progressive.
I think some left who were members after finding out what they were like.
I am lucky in that neither of my Senators are part of the DLC but, part of the progressive wing.
Dick Durbin is no DLC lover and neither is Barack Obama.

[snot]

70. Sorry I'm so late to this thread, but it's IMPT TO NOTE that the Repubs

have been using this same strategy EVERYWHERE -- they took over the media years ago, they took over the board of the Red Cross years ago, they're trying to take over public radio and tv, they've half-succeeded in taking over education, I wouldn't be in the least surprise if there are active efforts underway to infiltrate the ACLU, Sierra Club, etc. etc.

To speak only half-humorously, it seems like whenever liberals create something that works, Repubs infiltrate it to loot it, render it ineffective, and inhabit its dead body for demonic purposes.

Thank heavens more of us are finally waking up.

[nolabels]

78. We might both be late to the thread but you sure have posted what make.......

a lot of sense. These gold digging corporate centered bastards want people to give up and are prepared to spend what ever amount of money and time it takes to make that happen. A lot of them even laugh at it when they get it to happen. The war(s) they want and do wage across the world are so they can steal everybodies what ever while they make that happen, and this is especialy true for people living in the USA. If they can keep everyone sufficiently distracted with one hand they can steal whatever they want with the other. It's even not a trick.

They know they can get away with it because everybody else is sufficiently too distracted to do anything about it. How can you get outraged when the outrages continuously go on all the time as a daily basis. If you cannot get sufficiently outraged enough then you can probably can figure most others are in a similar boat. The corporatists have won because you are giving up (or at least collectively our society has given up enough to it wont matter much to the corporatist)

We are all being bought off and sold just like chattel because they can

[Individualist]

83. Hopefully more will wake up

and realize what's going on.

[sellitman]

72. Take the money out of politics or admit we are no better than them.

Both sides are corporate whores.

[sce56]

73. Read about who really controls this country and has since the 1950's

Read about it here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=116x13945

[Duppers]

76. DLC membership roll

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=358&topic_id=3027

[upi402]

77. LOL,

"Tom Vilsack, Governor, IA ...... THE reason for this list posting! "

[mmonk]

84. As long as they (whether corporations or DLC)

influence the democratic party into bad policy or not defending the constitution, democratic party victories are always under threat from the Green Party and third party movements. They may even threaten the possibility of substantial victory in 08.