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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 06:28 AM
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Gonzo resigned because there was a serious threat of Impeachment - Bush would do the same
Gonzo will leave Justice because there was serious consideration of impeaching him. Impeachment was being bandied about in both the House and Senate Judiciary Committees. When he thought they might toss him out (and in the process disclose criminal activity that would probably land him in prison) he cut and ran. Coward.

Bush isn't a bit different. If there was any sort of serious effort to remove him from office he'd resign quick as Nixon.

The only people keeping Bush in office at this moment are John Conyers and Patrick Leahy. Cowards.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 06:35 AM
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1. I tend to think so as well.
Bush has never stuck with anything in his whole life once it became difficult or fell apart. Over and over again, his family has bailed his sorry ass out of one predicament after another. Of course, stupid little George was the cause of many of the issues that befell him, but just like Humpty Dumpty, his family picked up all the little pieces and put him back together again.

Take a look at Harken Energy. What a joke that was. Little Bush sold his stock right before the announcement that the company was pretty much bankrupt. George ran it straight into the ground. But no insider trading charges for All Hat No Cattle - no sirree.

I do believe that if Congress started talking impeachment in a serious manner, Little Bush would pack his shit and move it to Crawford.

He would not allow himself to endure the process, the public humiliation, or be held accountable. He doesn't really care what anyone else thinks, but he would never allow himself to be put through such a burdensome process.

The man is a coward. If he truly thought justice was about to prevail upon him, he'd be out of Washington under cover of darkness, just like his brother Neil left Colorado - literally sneaking out in the middle of the night after Silverado Savings collapsed.

The Bush Family is a disgrace to America. They have caused more harm to this country than Osama ever imagined.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 06:47 AM
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3. I think you may have hit on something here
You said that every time he got in trouble his family has bailed him out. Maybe that's happening now too.

Could it be the political influence of his family that is keeping him in office as opposed to the political maneuvering of the Rove/Cheney machine?
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 06:54 AM
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4. I blame the Hag.
She of the "beautiful mind" who spewed out one putrid, worthless Bushbaby after another. What a terrible family these Bushies are. They embody all of the very worst aspects of modern America.

They are pathetic and a disgrace.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 06:44 AM
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2. He would run like a chicken to his ranch or to Paraguay
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 07:15 AM
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5. It wouldn't be as easy as you think to convict * in the Senate
Edited on Thu Aug-30-07 07:15 AM by rox63
Because the very slim Dem majority there hangs on Joe LIEberman. And I believe you need 67 votes to convict in an impeachment. There's no way we'd get that many votes. Hell, I bet if we tried to start impeachment proceedings, LIEberman would switch which party he caucuses with, putting all the Senate leadership back into rethug hands. That would make it even less likely that * would be brought down. It would essentially shut down every Senate investigation of the administration, since the committees currently leading those investigations would fall into rethug control.

A competent prosecutor knows not to bring a case to trial unless they thinks there's a good chance of winning. I think an international war crimes tribunal would be the best way to put the * cabal behind bars.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:29 AM
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10. There's a reason Fred Fielding was brought in...n/t
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bos1 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 07:36 AM
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6. I think so too about Gonzo but
the "goods" on Bush are not as simple (especially since Congress is also implicated in some of his crimes) and the political firestorm from going after him would be a million times greater than it was in going after Gonzales. But I do think that is why G. resigned -- the investigation would've snowballed into the White House.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 07:41 AM
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7. One difference, among many, is that repubs had abandoned Gonzo
A number of repubs had indicated that they thought Gonzo should resign. Name one repub who has expressed that view about chimpy.

Gonzo left not because of the impeachment threat per se but because the repubs had given up supporting him and because he was a liability to the party as it moved into the 2008 campaign season. With Rove, it was similar, although congressional support or lack thereof was irrelevant since he wasn't in a position requiring senate approval. But he wasn't liked on the Hill by repubs and he was a liability to the party, so he took his leave.

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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:46 AM
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8. Don't you think the Repugs are going to start abandoning Bush as the 2008 elections draw near?
Many have distanced themselves from him already. Some have not shown up for public engagements when Bush was also there. Others have cancelled due to "scheduling conflicts" at the last minute.

I think as Bush approaches the end of his scheduled term in office, more Repugs are going to abandon the man. He is not an asset to them or the party at this point, and could very well be an obstruction to getting re-elected.

The GOP is pretty quick to point the finger at their own if they perceive that person to have a negative impact on the party, or on their own careers. Just look at what's happening to Larry Craig right now. And I don't see too many of them hanging around "Dirty Diapers" Vitter, either.

I still expect Republicans to start abandoning Bush/Cheney as we close in on 2008, and people start gearing up their campaigns full time. I just don't see Bush as being in a position to do much for them, and the damage he could cause them with just one stupid statement or one stupid move is more than enough reason to keep him far, far away.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 11:00 AM
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11. they will distance themselves, but necessarily to the point of seeking his resignation or removal
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:28 AM
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9. The Bush hangers on are all disposable..
and they know it. When they have outlived their usefulness, they're given their walking papers, and they walk, pronto, like the hundreds that have gone before them. The check's in the mail, btw. It's all to protect the dim son.
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