Please stop talking about porn/aspects of porn/analysis of porn on DU

[Mind_your_head]

and focus on issues that involve good governance. Which is what THIS DU WEBSITE is supposed to be about, lest we forget.

Porn 'sells' (corporatists distracting your nose?), but it sure doesn't 'lead' (deciding the future for yourself, your children, your grandchildren).

I hope the mods will consider moving the porn threads to the lounge, or perhaps create a 'Porn Forum' to throw all of these posts to.

Peace,
M_Y_H

[BeHereNow]

1. Amen.

I've never seen so much bullshit on DU before.
BHN

[LostinVA]

2. So you start a new porn thread?

[Mind_your_head]

5. No, I think it should have it's own forum

Lord knows that more worthy/weighty topics than porn have had their own forums created. Porn should have it's own forum, for those who are interested in the subject to discuss....for those who are not interested, we can ignore/refrain.

Peace,
M_Y_H

[LostinVA]

6. GD goes through cycles of topics

Pit bulls, douchebags, porn, et cetera. It'll die down in a day or two.

[ruiner4u]

7. dont forget baby benadryl

thats good for days of flamewars...

[KittyWampus]

22. this thread isn't about 'porn'. It's about the threads that keep popping up about the subject

[Shakespeare]

3. It's always fun when someone wants to dictate what we should talk about.

This is "general discussion," and those threads--heated though they've been--are entirely appropriate in this forum. You want policy discussion, step down one level to GD/Politics.

[Cronus Protagonist]

11. I agree and besides, porn is important because it is fascinating

In our entertainment filled world, "being fascinating" is the holy grail of entertainment. Porn should take up a fair amount of discussion and attention in any open society.

[ruiner4u]

4. Why should the lounge have to deal with your GD porn repressive crap?

GD started it... Let GD deal with it...

[bluestateguy]

8. I think we need some video examples to further examine the issue

nt

[DCKit]

9. Bwahahaha!! Please sir, may I have more porn? nt

[qdemn7]

10. Haven't you heard?

The INTERNET is for porn!!! And as Bill Watkins the CEO of Seagate, the world's largest hard drive manufacturer has stated:

"Let's face it, we're not changing the world. We're building a product that helps people buy more crap - and watch porn."

[undergroundpanther]

12. Quit denying porn

Is harmless. And that people are never harmed by it.

Get honest or deal with the fact other people have a beef with your stubborn denial about how the industry sometimes causes exploitation and dehumanization and keeps patriarchy making this culture sickening and abusive..

[WorkingClassGuy]

15. Respectfully

I'm a bisexual guy and I would rather do anal, passive or active, with the camera running than to be left to die three thousand feet below the Earth in a cold , damp, Utah coal mine so people can have cheap power...

It seems that not only porn aficionados benefit from the "exploitation" of others...

[Harry Monroe]

33. being left to die three thousand feet below the Earth in a cold , damp, Utah coal mine so people...

...can have cheap power is also pornographic. Think about it.

[MetaTrope]

27. The same could be said of Nike products...

And coffee, chocolate, Disney and Walmart clothing...etc. etc. etc. For all of which we're talking child slave labor.

Are your consumer habits condoning this?

[smoogatz]

34. Here we go.

:popcorn:

[idgiehkt]

13. the lounge would cease to exist

:rofl:

it will run it's course.

I'm trying to think how long it's been since I felt like really debating about this, I read Dworkin/Mackinnon/et al then read Sprinkle/Bright etc etc bought both "Off our Backs" and "On Our Backs" in the same time period (talking ten, fifteen years ago)...dunno.

I do think that sex work is a perfectly relevant topic for this forum though.

[monmouth]

14. I've always thought porn was for the sexually repressed...

[tkmorris]

16. NO. This is GENERAL Discussion

There were more threads about Anna Nicole Smith when she died. Did you suggest then that we create a separate "Buxom dead females" forum? I have no idea why you object to this discussion.

[The Straight Story]

44. Indeed - I think far too many people forget the GENERAL in the header

There is a politics discussion, and a lounge for fun and games. This is where we discuss general things and the news of the day not related to politics.

[qdemn7]

17. Hell , NO!

Discussions about porn can highlight real differences between people on this website.

[porphyrian]

18. You don't get to set everyone else's agenda, sorry.

Ignore threads and users if you don't like it, and if you want people to discuss something that interests you, start an interesting thread about it like everyone else has to.

[OzarkDem]

19. Porn must be the new GOP wedge issue for 2008

They need a new one and must be giving this a test run, particularly as a way to divide women voters. In the overall scheme of things its not worth it.

[cgrindley]

20. I'd rather read about porn than another anti-Hillary piece of shit post

The porn doesn't bother me half as much as the long knives out to get Hillary and drive her supporters off DU.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. I Don't Have A Dog In This Intramural Fight

I'll support any Dem.

I do wonder what will happen here if she gets the nomination.It should be entertaining.

[cgrindley]

24. I thought the forum rules

included support for whatever Democrat is running in a given race. I seem to recall that the occasional Green supporter has been warned in the past. For some reason, no one seems to be doing that in this battle. Personally, I think that anyone who says that they wouldn't support or vote for a given candidate in the next election should leave DU. I have no idea why this part of the forum rules hasn't been brought up lately or why the anti-hillary threads haven't been deleted as flamebait.

on edit:

Here's the quotation:

"Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals, and to support Democratic candidates for political office."

seems clear enough to me...

[gollygee]

23. Who died and made you god?

What the hell?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. It's Ironic That Somebody Starts A Thread About Something They Don't Like.

Want to See Ignored, And It Ends Up Getting A Lot Of Posts.


I wish the OP could see the world's a big place witn many people with varied interest.

[Ikonoklast]

26. Please send us your approved list of topics

I eagerly await the Official Topic List for General Discussion, as I, like all my fellow DU'ers, love to be censored by busybodies with their own agenda.

Here's a free tip: Don't click on threads that may offend you.

[truebrit71]

38. Amen.

Far too many thread police around here lately...

There seems to be confusion about how NOT to read certain threads if you don't want to....

Kind of like those people that rather than changing the channel on their tv sets would rather see a show cancelled or banned....

[Katherine Brengle]

28. The exploitation and degradation of women is not a fucking Lounge issue.

I'm getting really fucking sick of this shit.

[Iris]

36. Exactly. Since when are social issues off-topic around here?

Jeez.

[Katherine Brengle]

43. When it has to do with the

rights and humanity of women, it doesn't fucking matter here.

We're just half of the population after all. We're a special interest group, didn't you get the memo?

It's not a social issue - it's just a bunch of whiny bitches trying to censor everyone's good clean fun and turn 'em all into a bunch of fundie prudes who never have sex.

Ugh.

[Iris]

49. yes. I wonder how I ever got the idea that this place might be better for women then say

a right-wing sort of discussion board. Every time I come here, I am disappointed.

[Javaman]

29. Okay, I'll stop talking about PORN...

No longer will you see anything about PORN written from these fingers. No more PORN here, no siree. No PORN this or PORN that or PORN here or PORN there.

Nope no more PORN.












PORN. lol

[Dr. Strange]

40. Now stop that!

:spank:

No more talk of porn!

Oops, now I said it!

[Greyskye]

45. porn porn porn porn PORRNNN - loverly porn...

Oh wait - that was spam...


nevermind.

[Dr. Strange]

54. Most of the spam I get...

is porn-related. Or viagra.

[Greyskye]

57. bloody vikings!

:evilgrin:

[lpbk2713]

30. When they outlaw porn only outlaws will have porn.

Hmmmm ... wait a minute. Is that a bad thing? :eyes:

[Phillycat]

31. The discussion about porn boils down to a women's rights/feminism

discussion. Which is 50% of the population of the earth. I think we can spare a few threads on that topic. :eyes:

[blondeatlast]

32. GD threads are a lot like porn; if you don't care for it, don't view it.

With porn, you can filter your cable/stellite, avoid toy stores and Netflix.

With GD, you can hide thread, ignore the authors, or (GASP, IT'S TOO HARD TO DO THIS)--

scroll past...

But humanity forbid we should put YOU out. :eyes:

[smoogatz]

35. Thank God. The self-appointed GD-correctness police have arrived

to tell us what we can talk about.

[mondo joe]

39. Or: The Thought Police have broken into factions.

And sub factions!

[Buns_of_Fire]

52. Not only that, the spelling Nazi's will tell you how to spell it!

And then the Apostrophe Nazis will tell you that there should be no apostrophe in this post title!

Just kidding. I love you guys, one and all (not in the carnal sense, of course). :grouphug: Except maybe for that guy over in the corner with the Cheezy Poofs smeared all over his face.

By all means, carry on... :popcorn:

[GeorgeGist]

37. Does that include ...

the pornography of neocon thought and action?

[Stinky The Clown]

41. Maybe, if one gets into a topic or activity, anything about that topic is porn ..... for example:

DU itself might well be thought of as Political Porn

The Food Channel may well be thought of as Food Porn

HGTV might well be thought of as Decor Porn

The endless threads celebrating some non-Democrat or other might be thought of as ProgressoPorn

And on and on.

You don't like everything discussed here. Good for you. You can be thought of as discerning.

I don't like everything discussed here. I, too, can be thought of as discerning.

But then there's the notion of tolerance. You may not like it all, but you sure wouldn't want your parade pissed upon. Why piss on the parade of those who want to discuss something you don't want to discuss.

Engage and debate or ignore. (By 'ignore', I really mean don't click on a thread ... not to place 418 specific DUers on Ignore.)

[treestar]

42. There's always a hot topic

Why create new forums for every single one.

This too shall pass. Remember when Paris went to jail?

[SidDithers]

46. .

Sid

[blondeatlast]

48. Um...

:rofl:

[Hawaii Hiker]

47. For some reason, when it comes to porn

alot of people on DU become social conservatives - porn is bad, porn ruins marriages, porn will cause WW III, etc. etc....:banghead:

Yes, I do have a strong support of the adult-film industry, having known industry people for 6 years now & I've alwaye been a the strong supporter of First Amendment issues...When Howard Stern was kicked off Clearchannel years ago (thankfully there's sateliite radio now), I wrote several letters to the applicable places....I get fired up over censorship type issues whether it involves porn, Howard Stern, Hollywood, etc...

No one is saying one should like porn, but a TRUE social liberal or libertarian would say "hey, it's not for me, but I don't think porn should be banned because I don't like it".....

Intrusive and/or invasive social conservatism is NOT the way to go...

[Prophet 451]

53. How about regulated?

I know a fair few people in the industry too but I think the industry could use some regulation (i.e. uniform STD tests, minimum pay rates, etc).

[mondo joe]

55. Agreed. Somehow, people who are staunch first amendment and

personal choice advocates get painted as "pro porn industry". I guess it's the same tactic as calling abortion pro choicers "Pro Abortion".

And many of the posters who have spoken in defense of choice and free expression have said the porn industry would benefit from normalization so regulation could be improved.

[Hawaii Hiker]

56. Well, they all are required to get AIM tests

every two weeks or so; they need to do a standard panel (HIV, gonorrhea, chalamida)....

[endarkenment]

50. What? No pictures? This thread sucks! nt.

[Sapere aude]

51. The answer I have to all who want to censor us. Don't click on the thread!

Turn off the TV. Don't buy the book. Turn the radio dial. Don't surf porn sites.

Don't censor me!

[HughMoran]

59. Yer all growed up now

lol

[SeattleGirl]

58. Sorry, but it IS an issue.

Instead of posting a thread like this, post a thread about something you find important.