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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 03:08 PM
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Previously blacked-out passages released show that US had sent Arar to be tortured
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6939866.stm

Canada-Syria case papers released
By Lee Carter
BBC News, Toronto



Mr Arar was imprisoned in Syria for almost a year
Declassified papers in Canada show that in 2002 officials suspected that the US had sent a Syrian-born Canadian, Maher Arar, to Syria to be tortured.

The previously blacked-out passages in the documents were released after a court order.

US security officials arrested Mr Arar at a New York airport in 2002 and deported him to Syria.

In Canada, a government inquiry completely exonerated Mr Arar of any links with terrorist groups.

The Canadian government had fought to keep the unreleased sections of documents submitted to the Maher Arar inquiry from coming out.

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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 03:11 PM
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1. And we'll never hear about on the MSM. n/t
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 03:59 PM
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8. The BBC is not MSM? /nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 04:01 PM
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9. Of course it is. n/t
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 01:17 PM
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16. OK, not *US* MSM. nt
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 03:12 PM
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2. What's missing from this article is the fact that the false intelligence which
led to the torture of Arar was a product of the torture of another victim of the Republican torture machine.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 03:19 PM
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4. Busholini: "We don't torture."
That of course is a lie. Also, it has been proven that the US Regime out sources Torture. It is called "Rendition"; sending suspects to other countries that do the torturing that send reports of results back to the US Regime agencies that deal with the Intel.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 04:05 PM
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11. That's just like saying "we don't kill people"
we let other people pull the trigger.

Bullshit semantics.

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 03:18 PM
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3. http://www.maherarar.ca/
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 03:23 PM
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6. I had no idea he had a website!
Thank You! II have been following his case for years now. Oh to have some trials at The Hague for these criminals!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 03:59 PM
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7.  Prisoner 345 It's a number, just a number - 1884 days
http://www.prisoner345.net /

Sami Al Haj



They took Carl von Ossietsky And broke his body - but not his mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tn0fdKsQWg



Prisoner 562

Half a thousand, half a hundred
Six times two, pick up your pen
Child, my child, count it up now
That's the number that I mean

It's a number, just a number
One of hundreds, a sign of shame
Each man's jacket had a number
Men had numbers, none had names

Hitler's system took their freedom
Took them prisoner, one by one
For the courage of their convictions
They were tortured, gassed and burned

They took communist, they took pacifist
They took social democrat
Jew and Christian all were prisoner
In the concentration camp

To the camp of Esterwegen
Listen child and understand
They took Carl von Ossietsky
And broke his body - but not his mind

In Berlin upon the 4th of May
19 hundred and 38
The Gestapo with its treatment
Signed his death certificate

Five-six-two his prison number
Listen, child, I beg you please
Keep in mind, always remember,
He got the Nobel Prize for Peace

In the struggle against injustice
He fought hard and he fought long
Child - remember Ossietsky
Peace won't come by words alone


Words and music: Oswald Andrae
Song Lyric as sung by Dick Gaughan


Song of Choice


Early every year the seeds are growing
Unseen, unheard they lie beneath the ground
Would you know before their leaves are showing
That with weeds all your garden will abound?

If you close your eyes, stop your ears
Shut your mouth then how can you know ?
For seeds you cannot hear may not be there
Seeds you cannot see may never grow

In January you've still got the choice
You can cut the weeds before they start to bud
If you leave them to grow high they'll silence your voice
And in December you may pay with your blood

So close your eyes, stop your ears,
Shut your mouth and take it slow
Let others take the lead and you bring up the rear
And later you can say you didn't know

Every day another vulture takes flight
There's another danger born every morning
In the darkness of your blindness the beast will learn to bite
How can you fight if you can't recognise a warning?

Today you may earn a living wage
Tomorrow you may be on the dole
Though there's millions going hungry you needn't disengage
For it's them, not you, that's fallen in the hole

It's alright for you if you run with the pack
It's alright if you agree with all they do



If fascism is slowly climbing back



It's not here yet so what's it got to do with you?

The weeds are all around us and they're growing
It'll soon be too late for the knife
If you leave them on the wind that around the world is blowing
You may pay for your silence with your life

So close your eyes, stop your ears,
Shut your mouth and never dare
And if it happens here they'll never come for you
Because they'll know you really didn't care

Peggy Seeger
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 04:09 PM
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12. thank you sweetie!
:hi:

:hug:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 03:22 PM
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5. Arar documents confirm role of CIA, FBI
Arar documents confirm role of CIA, FBI

Janice Tibbetts, CanWest News Service
Published: Friday, August 10, 2007

OTTAWA -- A secret portion of the Maher Arar report that was finally uncensored Thursday morning confirmed that the CIA and the FBI were the American law enforcement agencies that handled his deportation to Syria and that they likely sent him there so that he could be questioned in a "firm manner."

...

http://www.canada.com/cityguides/winnipeg/info/story.html?id=12ed8fea-bef6-4648-9ae1-1015e95ca87a&k=97840
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 04:02 PM
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10. They knew. Amy reported on this today. n/t
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MNWild Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 04:18 PM
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13. Amy Goodman had a good piece on this on Democracy Now this AM
and Thom Hartman is speaking about this very case now, (delayed broadcast on AAR in MN). It just goes to show the true value of our actions, huh? People will tell you anything that they think you want to hear, or make stuff up out of thin air to get you to stop the "enhanced interrogation techniques".
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 04:32 PM
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14. Canada issues an apology and gives him 10 million Canadian dollars!!
I could not imagine this administration apologizing for anything. They are way too self righteous.

"Following the public inquiry, the Canadian government issued a formal apology to Mr Arar and paid him more than $10m (£5m) in compensation. American officials continue to insist that their actions were based on reliable intelligence, although they will not discuss details of the case."

From the link
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 10:47 PM
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15. Sigh

I just wish that our government would understand the real meaning of the word "strength", and where real power comes from.

It is only the weak who can never admit a mistake, and must engage every fight.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 02:41 PM
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17. and the US will get away with it and continue to pretend it doesn't torture




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