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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:51 PM
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Gonzo will resign during the Congressional recess
and the idiot will replace him without having to go through the nominating process. This is what my husband thinks. :shrug:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:52 PM
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1. Nope. Gonzo will be there until January 2008.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:52 PM
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2. I don't think Gonzo is going anywhere. A deal was cut. He's stayin.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:00 PM
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9. Read this, it was just posted.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:04 PM
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13. Specter is all talk.
He's still a GOPervert.He will never turn on one of his own. That would be breaking the Raygun 11th commandment. :boring: :eyes:
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:53 PM
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3. Reid has a skeleton crew to eliminate recess appointments
Or so I read.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:56 PM
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4. I posted a May 2007 story to that effect a week or so ago, BUT..
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 09:59 PM by Junkdrawer
neither I or any other poster could find more recent confirmation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1440179#1440191

Here's hoping Reid goes through with it...

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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:58 PM
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7. Reid has a habit of backing down too easily
His bark is worse than his bite.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:56 PM
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5. I hope so
Gonzo is covering up a lot of criminal wrong doing from bu$h and his minions. THAT'S why he's not going anywhere. The stakes are too high. :grr:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:57 PM
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6. Can't Reid and Pelosi call an "emergency" session of Congress?
As in, cut short our Congress critters vacations if Bush pulls this crap?
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:59 PM
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8. Yeah, When Is The Last Time There Was A Special Session Of Congress?
I'm curious.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:06 PM
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16. I would think that the all-nighter most recently would qualify as an example.
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ruiner4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:25 PM
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37. I thought the Schivo thing was labeled as that..
iirc from memory
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:30 PM
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40. Perfect example of a Republican Congress abusing its power. n.t
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:33 PM
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41. Boy,that was quite a spectical,wasn't it?
Disgraceful. They showed what idiots they really are.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:51 PM
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49. And they call the Democrats all-nighter political theatre.
Gone are the days when Dr./Sen. Frist was making diagnoses on the Senate floor, while a sleepy, pajama clad President had to be summoned out of his slumber to sign a bogus piece of politicized legislation.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:00 PM
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10. What good would that do if he has already done it?
I don't trust that sneaking bastard. That whole bunch is rotten to the core. I wouldn't put ANYTHING past the repugliCONS.EVIL EVIL EVIL.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:08 PM
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18. I don't trust them either, but it does seem everyone knows about their moves before they happen.
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 10:08 PM by JackBeck
Martinis among the chattering class coupled with the press and whatnot.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:01 PM
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11. Congress has to be out of session for 10 days before Bush can recess appoint...
So the game is to reconvene every 9 days...
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:05 PM
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14. If Gonzo resigns, we should make sure this happens.
And if they let this recess appointment through, then the Democratically controlled Congress disappoints me big time.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:50 PM
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48. I heard that too, but have you heard anything about it recently?
I hate to be such a skeptic but promises do seem to get lost in Congress! I'd feel a lot better if I heard a confirmation of this plan in the next day or so.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:03 PM
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12. We need Gonzo to stay in...
...so that we can impeach him and then impeach the rest of the rats.

Stay Gonzo stay!

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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:05 PM
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15. Do you really think we have anyone with the
testicals to impeach ANYONE? I'm tired of waiting.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:07 PM
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17. Sadly, we don't. Toothless. We who write the angry letter and stomp our feet.
That's what we got in Congress.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:11 PM
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20. It's unacceptable what they are (not) doing
If this would have been Bill Clinton doing all these crimes and rewriting the constitution,he would have been impeached and removed from office YEARS ago.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:08 PM
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19. I've heard it said that if Gonzo goes...then goes down the bush admin...
Anyone else think that's true?
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:12 PM
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21. All of it is a house of cards held together with a web of lies.
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 10:12 PM by SoonerPride
Take out one or two and the whole thing will collapse and implode.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:12 PM
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22. I wouldn't believe it until it actually happened
The repukes will never let it happen. Never.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:13 PM
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24. Let's put it this way: An impartial AG might prosecute a whole lot..
of administration crimes. Enforcing Voting Rights legislation is one example.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:17 PM
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27. Is there any impartial repukelicons?
I haven't seen any. None. There isn't any.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:20 PM
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31. Sadly, no AG appointed by cheney/bush would be impartial
ANY appointee would likely be just SSDD.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:23 PM
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33. That's it.
I've never seen such a bunch of criminals running this country in all my life. I feel like we have crossed over into the twilight zone. :scared:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:23 PM
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35. Would any Bush/Cheney AG nominee be confirmed?
:shrug:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:24 PM
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36. Only if Gonzalez isn't replaced with another just like him.
Gonzalez himself is meaningless. There are other loyal Bushies that could perform exactly the same function that Gonzalez provides in the AG's seat. The problem is getting them there-- getting Senate approval.

Gonzalez is a major political liability now, and it's going to get worse. If they can replace him by recess appointment, they will.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:11 PM
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50. There is no one quite like Gonzales.
I suspect he's got a MAD relationship with George. They both have got the goods on each other. Certainly, AG has been doing Bush's dirty deeds for years. His reward has been the ride to the top. But he must know he's also Party to illegal doings, both as AG and as Bush's WH council

Now, if AG was to get the heave over the side, I don't think that's a big problem for AG. I think he'd be happy to slink off back to Texas and end his career as a judge there. But it might be a very big problem for Dimson and Dick. No nominee for AG is going to put their personal/professional integrity on the line to cover for this loser the way Alberto did. Maybe a 3rd year Regent U. law school student would, but that person probably won't get serious consideration by the Senate. So whoever gets nominated and approved is going to have to be professionally acceptable and politically neutral....and that means he gets the keys to the kingdom. Being politically neutral doesn't mean legally blind. So if there are crimes covered up in DoJ...they are going to get exposed.

I just don't see AG being allowed to resign...he's there to the bitter end. The end could be impeachment. And that may be the real beginning of the end for the Decider Guy and his War Profiteering Puppetmaster.



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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:13 PM
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23. I agree with your husband.
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 10:20 PM by Marr
Gonzalez has pushed it to the point where he may very well be impeached, and Bush will never be able to get another Yes Man on the scale of Gonzalez approved by the Senate. They *need* a party loyalist there- he's their finger in the dyke. Without someone like Gonzalez running legal interference, the Bush Administration will be twisting in the wind.

Bush is a moron, but the people around him are... well, they're morons, too. But they're also savvy political players, and I'm sure they see this.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:15 PM
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25. Anyone that idiot would replace Gonzo with
will be just another criminal covering up for bu$h. That's all bu$h knows and has any dealings with. Crooks,criminals and low class unethical people.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:17 PM
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26. Won't happen. He's covering up too many crimes and Harry Reid isn't going to give them any chance to
recess appoint ANYONE.

Reid’s plan to block Bush’s recess appointments.

“Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has a little trick up his sleeve that could spell an end to President Bush’s devilish recess appointments of controversial figures like former United Nations Ambassador John Bolton.” U.S. News reports:

We hear that over the long August vacation, when those types of summer hires are made, Reid will call the Senate into session just long enough to force the prez to send his nominees who need confirmation to the chamber. The talk is he will hold a quickie “pro forma” session every 10 days, tapping a local senator to run the hall. Senate workers and Republicans are miffed, but Reid is proving that he’s the new sheriff in town.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/20/reids-plan-to-block-bushs-recess-appointments/
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:19 PM
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29. I hope that's true.
I've been disappointed too many times.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:18 PM
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28. Nancy Can reconvene Congress at any time
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 10:18 PM by proud patriot
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:20 PM
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Yes,but will she?
:shrug:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:36 PM
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43. Your guess is as good as mine
For the AG appointment I believe she might ...
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:25 PM
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39. It wouldn't be Nancy, it would be Harry
AG is a Senate confirmation process.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:37 PM
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44. I stand corrected
Thanks
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MisterHowdy Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:20 PM
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30. Gonzo will stay till elections
IMO
He's a huge joke,
but unfortunately I think he's gonna be around a while longer.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:21 PM
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32. I have a feeling you're right.
Bu$h can't AFFORD to let him go. Gonzo is saving bu$h's ass.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:23 PM
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34. In times past Bush couldn't really let AG Gonzales go because there
was no gain in it politically. But now Bush's numbers are so low and his administration and presidency so totally over that there's now no loss in it either.

It could go either way from Bush's point of view and not matter.

For us it matters that Gonzales was appointed to that post to begin with. Now that we're at ths point, the hinge is whether Bush thinks he can distract the public with an interim appointment or not.

And no matter what Bush decides I can't imagine anybody in Washington who think Alberto Gonzales enjoys the confidence of the Justice Department or most of anyone else either.

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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:25 PM
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38. Hey,Old Crusoe!
How's it going? :hi:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:35 PM
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42. Hey, buff2. How the hell are ya?
I sure love the governor you folks put in office. Strickland is A-Ok n my book. And from the looks of things, he's got very significant public approval. Good for him, and good for you.

Here's for a continued blue trend in the Buckeye State in 08!

:toast: :dem: :thumbsup: :hi:
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:41 PM
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45. I'm doing fine!
Strickland is a GREAT Governor. His approval ratining is 61%! Even the repukes like him...LOL

I got to meet him and talk to him a lot when he was our congressman. I just love him. He is so nice and down to earth and truly cares for people who are struggling to survive.He is from a little town not too far from me. I will work hard to help keep this state blue. After all the damage the repukes have done,I don't think it will be too hard to do. :toast: :hug:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:44 PM
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47. Well, that is a very encouraging report from Ohio. You're lucky to
have met Strickland. I'm guessing that if the approval rating stays as strong as it is now it won't be too long before folks begin mentioning his name for national office.

Ohio has given us what -- 7 or 8 presidents? -- and most of them kind of marginal and one of them absolutely miserable (Harding) -- so it would be sensational luck to have Strickland show 'em all how it's done.

Do what you can to get rid of Jean Schmidt down there in that southern district, too. My god we could sure do without that woman braying like a jackass in the halls of Congress.

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mr.alleycat Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:43 PM
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46. Political Poopery
It's almost, time don't ya see
To replace, our ravaged AG
With Congress away
There's nothing to say
And we will get off, scot-free

Too many, continue to dance
Even though, given a chance
To change their tune
Or remain a maroon
Locked, in a Bushtard romance
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