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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:32 PM
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Former Judiciary Chair (Specter) Calls For Probe into Roberts, Alito
Edited on Wed Jul-25-07 12:49 PM by ProSense
July 25, 2007 9:48 AM

Former Judiciary Chair Calls For Probe into Roberts, Alito

Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA), who chaired the committee hearings on Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito, said yesterday that he intends to investigate whether the Court's newest Justices "lived up" to their promises during those hearings to respect stare decisis.

The Chief Justice told Senators during his hearings that "I do think that it is a jolt to the legal system when you overrule a precedent. Precedent plays an important role in promoting stability and evenhandedness." His remarks were echoed by Justice Alito, who said that "there needs to be a special justification for overruling a prior precedent."

Senator Specter said that he was moved to examine the new Justices' records after a recent conversation he had with Justice Breyer. In that conversation, Breyer told Specter that there were eight closely divided cases last Term in which the new Justices voted to overturn or substantially limit existing precedent.


Alito and Roberts were entrenched. IOW, they were partisan hacks!

Supreme Court proves to be ally for Bush

"For the (SCOTUS), this will be remembered as the year of intellectual dishonesty."

Kerry on Supreme Court Ruling on School Diversity

On the SCOTUS' repeal of 100-year-old antitrust law


Any more evidence needed that Alito and Roberts have not "'lived up' to their promises"?

Edited to add, maybe it's time to consider the power of Congress:

1801-1850

November 30, 1804

Senate Tries Supreme Court Justice

Samuel Chase

On November 30, 1804, for the third time in its brief history, the Senate began an impeachment trial. The first trial in 1798 and 1799 had involved a senator previously expelled on grounds of treason. Because that senator no longer served, the Senate dismissed the case citing lack of jurisdiction. The second trial, in 1804, removed a federal judge for reasons of drunkenness and probable insanity. More than the first two proceedings, however, third trial challenged the Senate to explore the meaning of impeachable crimes.

Samuel Chase had served on the Supreme Court since 1796. A staunch Federalist and a volcanic personality, Chase showed no willingness to tone down his bitter partisan rhetoric after Jeffersonian Republicans gained control of Congress in 1801. Representative John Randolph of Virginia orchestrated impeachment proceedings against Chase, declaring he would wipe the floor with the obnoxious justice. The House accused Chase of refusing to dismiss biased jurors and of excluding or limiting defense witnesses in two politically sensitive cases. Its trial managers hoped to prove that Chase had "behaved in an arbitrary, oppressive, and unjust way by announcing his legal interpretation on the law of treason before defense counsel had been heard." Highlighting the political nature of this case, the final article of impeachment accused the justice of continually promoting his political agenda on the bench, thereby "tending to prostitute the high judicial character with which he was invested, to the low purpose of an electioneering partizan."

At the time the Senate took up the case against the Federalist justice, its members included twenty-five Jeffersonian Republicans and nine Federalists. Chase appeared before the Senate on January 4, 1805, to declare that he was being tried for his political convictions rather than for any real crime or misdemeanor. His defense team, which included several of the nation's most eminent attorneys, convinced several wavering senators that Chase's conduct did not warrant his removal from office. With at least six Jeffersonian Republicans joining the nine Federalists who voted not guilty on each article, the Senate on March 1, 1805, acquitted Samuel Chase on all counts. A majority voted guilty on three of the eight articles, but on each article the vote fell far short of the two-thirds required for conviction. The Senate thereby effectively insulated the judiciary from further congressional attacks based on disapproval of judges’ opinions. Chase resumed his duties at the bench, where he remained until his death in 1811.


The Senate's Impeachment Role

<...>

Definition of Offenses

Another question, the one debated most hotly by members of Congress, defense attorneys, and legal scholars from the first impeachment trial to the most recent trial of President William Clinton, concerns the issue of what exactly is an impeachable offense. The task of definition left to future legislators by the framers has proved perplexing. Treason and bribery, the two constitutionally designated impeachable crimes, were clear cut. But what were "high crimes and misdemeanors?" Were misdemeanors lesser crimes, or merely misconducts? Did a high crime or misdemeanor have to be a violation of written law? Over the years, "high crimes and misdemeanors" have been anything the prosecutors have wanted them to be. In an unsuccessful attempt to impeach Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas in 1960, Representative Gerald Ford declared: "An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history." The phrase is the subject of continuing debate, pitting broad constructionists, who view impeachment as a political weapon, against narrow constructionists, who regard impeachment as being limited to offenses indictable at common law.

Narrow constructionists won a major victory when Supreme Court Justice Samuel Chase was acquitted in 1805, using as his defense the argument that the charges against him were not based on any indictable offense. President Andrew Johnson won acquittal with a similar defense in 1868. But the first two convictions in the twentieth century, those of Judge Robert Archbald in 1913 and Judge Halsted Ritter in 1936, neither of whom had committed indictable offenses, made it clear that the broad constructionists still carried considerable weight. The debate continued during the 1974 investigation into the conduct of President Nixon, with the staff of the House Judiciary Committee arguing for a broad view of "high crimes and misdemeanors" while Nixon's defense attorneys understandably argued for a narrow view.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:34 PM
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1. trojan horses, both of them
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:35 PM
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2. Spector always builds his mountains....
and in the end we know he's full of shit!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:53 PM
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14. SO TRUE! maybe he can also explain why he voted for the rat bastard SCALITO AFTER he knew THIS:
While working as a Justice Department lawyer in 1985, Samuel Alito wrote in a memo that the government "should make clear that we disagree with Roe v. Wade," the landmark 1973 Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion.


The 20-year-old memo, which discussed whether the government should take a position on a pending abortion rights case before the court, is the second document in which Alito appears to show his strong opposition to Roe. Earlier this month, a personal qualifications statement from Alito -- written when he applied for the same Justice Department job in which he later drafted the memo –- was released by the Reagan Presidential Library. In the written statement, Alito said that he was "particularly proud of my contributions in recent cases in which the government has argued in the Supreme Court … that the Constitution does not protect a right to an abortion."

and he voted for Roberts AFTER THIS:

John G. Roberts Jr. testified yesterday that he believes that the Constitution protects the right to privacy, the legal underpinning of the nation's landmark abortion law, but he refused to say whether he would vote to uphold Roe v. Wade if he is confirmed as chief justice of the United States.

which means he WILL vote to overturn Roe v. Wade. SPECTER IS RESPONSIBLE for those rat bastards being confirmed. NOW he wants them investigated? What a crock of shit.


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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 04:00 PM
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19. Specter is allegedly pro choice.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 09:34 PM
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23. That's what he says, but I don't buy it. Nor do I trust that man as far as I can throw him.
:(
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:35 PM
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3. a little late now
:eyes:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:38 PM
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Is Specter, a cancer survivor, getting his affairs in order?
Working on his legacy? Feeling good about attempting to get out from under bush's thumb?
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:46 PM
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8. personally i don't care what the motivation, i'm glad he's jerking
the chain-

And hope doesn't back off easily.

:hi:
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:38 PM
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4. I am picking my jaw up off of the floor. What's gotten into Specter lately?
I know he blows a lot of hot air and then backs down, but he's been especially cranky with the Bush administration cronies lately.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:39 PM
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5. Is this a joke? What is he going to probe?
Honestly, I thought this was an Onion headline.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:43 PM
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6. You saw something funny in the OP? n/t
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:51 PM
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9. I saw it as a sick joke......
.....not 'ha ha' funny but 'try to run over your own head with the back wheel of your car' funny. You know, like the headline they ran about our national nightmare of peace and prosperity being over when the chimp was selected.

Probe to what end? So they over turned precedent. What can we do about it?

I knew that motherf--ker Alito was lying when I saw his mother answer the door to a reporter and pretty SAY her baby would overturn Roe........and I mean 'MF' literally, BTW.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:59 PM
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10. You have a problem with a probe?
You called Alito a liar, but you're offended that Specter wants to investigate whether or not two Supreme Court justices made misleading statement during their confirmation?

I'm not sure where the "sick joke" part comes in.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:05 PM
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11. I must be losing my touch.
I'm all for a probe. Let me make that perfectly clear.

The sick joke is Specter NOW coming to the realization he was had even though it was obvious to ME the whole time I was throwing shit at the TV during the hearings.

Did you ever see The Godfather? Remember when Kay tells Michael she aborted the baby?...and then tells him, oh by the way, it was a boy.

Adding insult to injury would probably sum it up.

Sorry that I wasn't clear on that.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:19 PM
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13. Ah!
Maybe it's me. I could be suffering from blogitis. I agree on Specter. He started off the same way on the illegal spying probe only to propose rewriting the law to accommodate Bush. He knows damn well that Alito and Roberts are partisan hacks, but he could simply be running interference again. The Dems should be all over this.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:46 PM
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7. Why has he suddenly got religion while even some democrats
haven't yet? Where's the trick and when is it coming?
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:11 PM
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12. Another DUH moment.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:54 PM
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15. Fuck Specter
Now he's getting worried?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 03:02 PM
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16. He's pathetic. What the hell did he think they would do? WE WERE RIGHT! HE was WRONG!
:grr: We told him so.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 03:56 PM
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18. Indeed
Doesn't make me feel much better though!!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 03:45 PM
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17. K&R #4 for Huh?!1 n/t
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 07:14 PM
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20. K and R
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 07:15 PM
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21. Specter? Glad it is out there and discussed, but shock, Specter? nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 12:40 PM
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22. Kick! n/t
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