They really, REALLY think we are STUPID......
http://www.nbc6.net/msnbcnews/13705960/detail.html"The people in our state are practical about this," said Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D- Minn., who said her constituents would not be disappointed that there wouldn't be total troop withdrawal under the Democratic plan. "People are practical about the fact that they know we need Special Forces there, we need to have people guarding the embassies; we need to have people training police. What they want to do is to make it clear we're not going to be there indefinitely.... This is very consistent with what the people wanted."
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In an e-mail to its members, the anti-war group Progressive Democrats of America Tuesday urged them to "Tell Democrats that even if the Levin-Reed amendment passes, their work is NOT done. The Levin-Reed Amendment does not end the occupation and it leaves too many troops and all military contractors behind in Iraq."
The e-mail said that the amendment "would begin to bring some troops home, but would NOT end the occupation!"
Home by the holidays?
But despite the e-mail's militant tone, Tim Carpenter, executive director of Progressive Democrats of America said in an interview Tuesday that passage of amendment would be "a good first step" and that "in the months ahead" his group would urge senators to "step forward to offer an amendment to bring the troops home by the holidays."
He said his group had both an "outside" and "inside" strategy, with the latter focused on conversations with Democratic senators and staff members. "Our work inside is incremental," he explained. "We're going to push for a vote on no permanent (U.S.) bases" in Iraq, a stance that appears to be at odds with Democratic leaders such Sen. Barack Obama, D- Ill., and Sen. Hillary Clinton, D- N.Y., both of whom have spoken of the need, as they see it, for some U.S. forces to remain in Iraq.
"No permanent bases is a line in the sand for progressive Democrats," Carpenter said.
In an alternative to the Levin-Reed proposal, Sen. Mary Landrieu, D- La., offered her own plan Tuesday to re-focus U.S. forces on the hunt for Osama bin Laden and the al Qaida network, with troops being moved from Iraq to Afghanistan.
She would leave to Bush and military commanders the timing, pace and magnitude of the shift of forces.
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