I genuinely feel for Congressman Ron Paul.

[leftist.]

As we all know Paul's a Libertarian, and in my mind (and probably most of yours) Libertarians tend to be closer to the true "Conservative" moniker than these strange, sexually deprived Republikans with their gay hating, overtly religious chest thumping. I mean, we all saw him on Colbert as Stephen went through various three letter agencies having Ron Paul pledge to dismantle each one. He's a conservative's conservative.

As such, it actually makes me feel for the guy when I hear hate radio piling on him. Most recently, it was bottom-of-the-ratings dwelling Mike Reagan calling him a "fruitcake". But it doesn't end there - it's Hannity calling him a nut-case and referring to him as the "right wing wacko" counterpart to the "moveon.org crowd on the left" ... it's Limbaugh calling him names and trying to paint him, with Gravel, as each parties "extremist" crazy person. I've heard Boortz (a supposed Libertarian, but to be fair the Libertarian party doesn't really want him around) referring to him as a "Cut and Run" (yawn) candidate. And this is a guy who, even though I disagree with him, loves his country enough to want to go to Washington and help out - which is without a doubt more than Hannity, Limbaugh, Reagan, Boortz, and the others are willing to do.

I remember a time almost a decade ago when Mr. Paul was REVERED by the Republikan party as a true conservative, as someone to watch. And now, over this one issue - Iraq - an issue that we all agree on at this point, to see the guy so cavalierly and smugly tossed aside by the likes of Mike (spit) Reagan ... I can't help but feel for him.

[greyl]

1. He's not worth it at all.

Check a little deeper into Paul's history, and you'll soon find plenty of racist comments.

[leftist.]

5. What does what I wrote have to do with this?

I don't support him, I just said I feel for the guy.

[greyl]

8. He's not worth feeling for. nt

[leftist.]

9. His wife gets raped. Does what you wrote "nt" too still apply?

[TwilightGardener]

11. ?

[leftist.]

14. You just wake up?

[greyl]

12. Are you changing the subject from asshole Ron Paul into being empathetic

and altruistic toward our fellow man?

[leftist.]

13. Well, I didn't intend to.

You said he's not worth feeling for, and I thought "what if his wife got raped", would he still not be worth feeling for.

[greyl]

16. But, you did. :)

I can think of extreme hypotheticals in which I'd genuinely feel empathy for anybody. However, the fact that Paul is getting a hard time from other hypocritical idiots just doesn't twang my heartstrings. Let me know if his w.. nevermind.

[leftist.]

18. Like I said, I didn't intend to.

I don't like being a "He's a racist so fuck him" type of person. YMMV and obviously does. I don't think Paul has done anything hypocritical here, meaning he hasn't done something that is opposed to what he's said (I might be wrong here and accept that, if I am). In my post, I'm addressing the fact (or trying to) that he's everything the repulikans want and have wanted, but because of Iraq he's being rudely dismissed.

[LeftishBrit]

21. Same here...

There are things that are so bad that I would feel for anyone in that position, however much I disliked them. E.g. I feel very sorry about Tony Snow having cancer, even though I don't like his policies at all. But I don't feel sorry for a right-wing nut because he's being attacked by other right-wing nuts. On the contrary, I hope that the Republicans fighting each other will result in victory for the Democrats!

[TSIAS]

2. I don't

While Paul has a good position on Iraq, his other positions are scary. Basically he wants to get rid of most government agencies. I think his Iraq position is based more on isolationism than anything else.

[leftist.]

6. I wrote everything you said in my post.

I even said I don't support him, that I just feel for the guy.

[Warren DeMontague]

3. He's anti-choice and anti-Separation of Church and State.

That's a strange fucking brand of "libertarianism", if you ask me.

[leftist.]

7. I don't agree with his version of Libertarianism. I just said I feel for the guy.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. Sounds like he's getting the treatment we liberals have been getting for decades.

Hey, who knows. Maybe after he sees what total shitheels so many of his fellow Republicans are, he'll change parties, and in the process get a clue about letting women control their own bodies and keeping religion out of government. :thumbsup:

[leftist.]

17. Maybe or maybe not. I wasn't speaking to any of that.

He's running for his party's nomination and he's 99.9% of what the Republikans would like to vote for, but because of Iraq he gets called names from total douche bags on the radio. It made me feel for the guy. I can't help it. Apparently that makes me wrong or foolish, or whatever, and I guess that's a fair assessment, but I don't feel comfortable just saying "Oh, yeah, that guy doesn't agree with me, therefore fuck him, he gets what he deserves".

[Warren DeMontague]

20. I'm not calling you wrong or foolish.

I'm just having a conversation. :hi:

[BeHereNow]

4. As posted in LBN today, Paul has gotten more military $$$ campaign support than the other pukes

Don't expect any one on DU to note the merit of that fact though.
For all the Paul bashing, it seems many in the military don't agree with some on DU.
"Support the troops" until they let it be known who they support, eh?

Good things the neocons contol the vote counting, otherwise
our troops might just elect Paul...wonder why that is?

BHN:sarcasm:

[TwilightGardener]

10. Paul = stopped clock. The Repugs can chew him up and spit him out, and

I wouldn't care. And I am a pretty staunch defender of Repugs who do the right thing, so that's saying something. He's just too nuts about the role of government, too invasive into a woman's right to choose, despite the fact that he was an OB doc (not quite a libertarian view, is that?), and too willing to eschew the world and hunker down within our borders. I don't see him as especially admirable.

[KharmaTrain]

19. He's A Libertarian

Ran for President in '88 as one...never really changed stripes as the GOOP gladly took him on and his racist, homophobic and Grover Norquist economics are right at home in that coven.

The sole Repugnican I respect is Walter Jones who came out before the '04 election against this carnage and has said more and done more with his votes than Paul has.

Of course the hate radio crowd is gonna pounce on Paul as he's not "one of them", either...and he's a threat to the "homogeny" that this inept and corrupt party displays. Either you're 100% with the program...or you're a sell-out or worse.