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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:11 AM
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Words in a Time of War: Stunning Mark Danner speech in Editorials
Please, go and read this, and recommend it (there's still over 4 hours to do so) - this was a graduation speech Mark Danner gave. It's the most eloquent damning of Bush, Rove and their lies I've seen. And sources he refers to will shock you, and make you cry.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x285372

(And apologies to Marmar, who posted it in Editorials earlier, but for whom the 24 hour recommendation period has already expired).

A taster: but there's so much more there:

When most of you arrived on this campus, in September 2003, the rhetorical construction known as the War on Terror was already two years old and that very real war to which it gave painful birth, the war in Iraq, was just hitting its half-year mark. Indeed, the Iraq War had already ended once, in that great victory scene on the USS Abraham Lincoln off the coast of San Diego, where the President, clad jauntily in a flight suit, had swaggered across the flight deck and, beneath a banner famously marked "Mission Accomplished," had declared: "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."

Of the great body of rich material encompassed by my theme today -- "Words in a Time of War" -- surely those words of George W. Bush must stand as among the era's most famous, and most rhetorically unstable. For whatever they may have meant when the President uttered them on that sunny afternoon of May 1, 2003, they mean something quite different today, almost exactly four years later. The President has lost control of those words, as of so much else.

At first glance, the grand spectacle of May 1, 2003 fits handily into the history of the pageantries of power. Indeed, with its banners and ranks of cheering, uniformed extras gathered on the stage of that vast aircraft carrier -- a stage, by the way, that had to be turned in a complicated maneuver so that the skyline of San Diego, a few miles off, would not be glimpsed by the television audience -- the event and its staging would have been quite familiar to, and no doubt envied by, the late Leni Riefenstahl (who, as filmmaker to the Nazis, had no giant aircraft carriers to play with). Though vast and impressive, the May 1 extravaganza was a propaganda event of a traditional sort, intended to bind the country together in a second precise image of victory -- the first being the pulling down of Saddam's statue in Baghdad, also staged -- an image that would fit neatly into campaign ads for the 2004 election. The President was the star, the sailors and airmen and their enormous dreadnought props in his extravaganza.

However ambitiously conceived, these were all very traditional techniques, familiar to any fan of Riefenstahl's famous film spectacular of the 1934 Nuremberg rally, Triumph of the Will. As trained rhetoricians, however, you may well have noticed something different here, a slightly familiar flavor just beneath the surface. If ever there was a need for a "disciplined grasp" of the "symbolic and institutional dimensions of discourse" -- as your Rhetoric Department's website puts it -- surely it is now. For we have today an administration that not only is radical -- unprecedentedly so -- in its attitudes toward rhetoric and reality, toward words and things, but is willing, to our great benefit, to state this attitude clearly.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:32 AM
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1. Kick n/t
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:40 AM
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2. k&r with a :WOW:
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:41 AM
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3. Thanks for pointing it out. nt
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:58 AM
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4. "Power has made reality its bitch." WOW. nt
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:22 AM
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5. Looong read but this first-hand account is gut wrenching. . .
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 10:55 AM by live love laugh
How, in these "words in a time of war," can I convey to you the reality of that place at this time? Let me read to you a bit of an account from a young Iraqi woman of how that war has touched her and her family, drawn from a newsroom blog. The words may be terrible and hard to bear, but -- for those of you who have made such a determined effort to learn to read and understand -- this is the most reality I could find to tell you. This is what lies behind the headlines and the news reports and it is as it is.

"We were asked to send the next of kin to whom the remains of my nephew, killed on Monday in a horrific explosion downtown, can be handed over...

"So we went, his mum, his other aunt and I...

"When we got there, we were given his remains. And remains they were. From the waist down was all they could give us. ‘We identified him by the cell phone in his pants' pocket. If you want the rest, you will just have to look for yourselves. We don't know what he looks like.'

"…We were led away, and before long a foul stench clogged my nose and I retched. With no more warning we came to a clearing that was probably an inside garden at one time; all round it were patios and rooms with large-pane windows to catch the evening breeze Baghdad is renowned for. But now it had become a slaughterhouse, only instead of cattle, all around were human bodies. On this side; complete bodies; on that side halves; and everywhere body parts.

"We were asked what we were looking for; ‘upper half' replied my companion, for I was rendered speechless. ‘Over there.' We looked for our boy's broken body between tens of other boys' remains; with our bare hands sifting them and turning them.

"Millennia later we found him, took both parts home, and began the mourning ceremony."
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:54 AM
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6. K & R
Well worth the read.

If clear sight were not so painful, many more would elect to have it.


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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:45 AM
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7. Thank you for reposting. I hope UCB puts an mp3 up of it too. K & R nt
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 12:58 PM
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8. k&r
It IS a long read, but worth it.

Here's the link straight to the speech:
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/7834
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:38 PM
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9. K & R
Thank you.
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