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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:04 PM
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Hillary Clinton Promises Trickle Down Change
 
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I think this is an excellent point and it's one of the biggest reasons why I will not vote for Hillary in my primary.

PS---If you assume Cenk is a "Hillary Hater", please keep in mind he's been defending her *a lot* lately against irrelevant attacks. You know, non-substantive attacks related to her gender, etc:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftLyDACCRwo&feature=related
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:06 PM
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1. He is wrong- Edwards is the most radical after DK - then Hillary - and in last is Obama who has said
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 12:06 PM by papau
he believes in slow change.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:07 PM
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7. A couple things
First, I wouldn't say Edwards is "radical" by any means, but I do agree Dennis is the most progressive of the bunch.

As for the second point, we're getting into rhetoric (obviously), but I'm not sure how it's so clear that Obama is the one most likely to push for incremental change. With that said, one reason he's my second choice (and not my first) is because I admit I am put off by what I consider to be an *overly* conciliatory message. I realize that compromise is necessary, but only to an extent.

And I also feel that issues like torture (for example) allow no room for compromise, i.e. we need to STOP doing it, period.

I'm also bothered by Hillary being dead last on the change bandwagon, especially in light of her many other stances. And many of her supporters LIKE the fact that she seems to want incremental change because they (mistakenly IMO) believe that's the ONLY way change will ever take place (despite the fact that as Cenk points out, republicans seem to able to make radical changes in short periods of time).
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:06 PM
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2. Right now change needs to come like a sledgehammer not a leaky faucet
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:11 PM
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4. Right now change needs to come like a sledgehammer not a leaky faucet
Not in the sorry shape our economy is in.

Try doing too much all at once and you're risking another depression.

Obama's change it slowly approach wont be as big a shock as Edwards plans, and Hillary wont be much different than Bush in sucking up to the Wall Street crowd.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:21 PM
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5. I guess it depends on who you ask
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 12:22 PM by ihavenobias
Also, the economy isn't the ONLY issue here.

But since you mentioned it, at least one popular economist sees it differently:

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/01/14/6358
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:08 PM
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3. Why does all plumbing run down hill
So the shit will run down hill and that is all we will get is shit.
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:45 PM
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6. that is absolutely correct...Cenk has been fair to her
another great Young Turks show.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:26 PM
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8. You have to clean house before you can put in the new furniture.
We have to elect a president who will prosecute the war profiteers. That's the only way to get off our addictions to war and oil and use tax money for the good of America.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 05:16 PM
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9. So
which candidate(s) do you think will clean house?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:24 PM
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10. Edwards. He is the only candidate who knows how to clean house.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:49 AM
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11. His description of Hillary's "slow change" approach fits Pelosi and Reid quite well also
Boo to slow, useless change and Republican pandering. They didn't give a shit how we felt when they took charge in 2001 and changed every single thing we as a country were doing.
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