"No One Wants To Hear It": Blood tests on Gulf residents show ethylbenzene and other hydrocarbons

[kpete]

Run time: 03:37 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTTk4U9FxDU   Posted on YouTube: September 04, 2010 By YouTube Member: NotForSale2NWO Views on YouTube: 308   Posted on DU: September 04, 2010 By DU Member: kpete Views on DU: 1946

 

[Imagevision]

1. BP has gained control over US. media quite obviously...

[madmax]

2. Not just BP

Big business dictates.

[liberalmike27]

4. One great thing about Obama

Is he's been choosing anti-corporate SC nominees, at least best he can tell.

Now all we need is just a little help, one of the conservative justices to fall by the wayside, get sick of cancer, or just decide to retire. With one more, perhaps they will at least repeal the recent changes, if not get rid of the stupid ideas that corporations are people, and should be endowed with human rights, and that money translates into speech.

Hell the thing I've never understood is, if people are limited to $2500 per primary, then election cycle, why aren't corporations limited, if they are said, people?

[lob1]

9. And why don't they go to jail for the crimes they

commit? BP at least committed manslaughter when the 11 men died on their rig. They died because of company negligence.

[leveymg]

19. You may get your wish if any of the Right-wing SCOTUS members have been vacationing in the Gulf

But, it will likely take years for cancer or any of the other other lethal side-effects to manifest. It may not be until 2020 or 2030 for a huge spike in related pathologies to appear.

I wouldn't wish this on anyone.

[Aaria]

3. Post the address for this to your Facebook page help the news get out.

[hedgehog]

5. Did anyone test their blood before the oil spill? The Mississippi

Delta is a cancer hot spot. The hot spot, oddly enough , corresponds to the area of concentrated chemical plants and oil refineries in Texas and Louisiana. Not to absolve BP, but to suggest that others should not be left off the hook.

[madrchsod]

6. add in all the shit that drains

from the entire country between the mountains

[bherrera]

7. This report isn't reliable

They provide very little hard information, it is purely verbal reporting. I visited their website, and it has a sign "Donate" in a prominent location. I suspect this is one of several sites which proliferate to collect money from good people. As you mention, it is important to understand the baseline conditions, and also to see how representative are the individuals tested of the overall population in the area. This report sounds quite unscientific. It is also very unlikely hydrocarbons would move UP the chain into the coast line, because the oil is spilled offshore. Oil found on a beach does not move inland this way. Finally, there is a question of the concentrations involved. I am sure those who breathe the fumes from a fuel tank when fueling a vehicles may have hydrocarbons in their blood in parts per US billion. Thus a report which just mentions we found some hydrocarbons is very amateur.

[jimlup]

8. It may not be reliable but we had better bloody well get some that is!

This is a population critical issue. The government sponsored institutions should step up and do the toxicology tests.

[bherrera]

10. Check the government websites

There are tests being done. There is no need to do toxicology tests on persons removed from the ocean and the oil spill, it doesn't work that way. My perception is that a lot of people are trying to scare the population to collect funds. There is also a lot of poorly based information and rumours which are unfounded, and I also noticed some atempts to profit from the oil spill by tainting the water - an interesting case was the one where they found disperstand in a person's swimming pool, which was evidently poured on purpose.

The key investigation should be carried out on wild life living in the ocean, because this is the front line of contamination. I read the relevant websites, and they are opening wider areas of the Gulf of Mexico for fishing, which means the fish are not showing toxic conditions.

It is important not to create a sense of panic or become unrealistic about what is happening. There was a huge oil spill, but the Obama admministration, the US Coast Guard, and the other agencies have done a very good job. Many of the complaints I attribute to secret Republican agents who are trying to create a crisis where one doesn't really exist anymore. Now the key is to allow scientists to monitor the environment in a calm fashion. Papers will be written, and the effects will be documented. And as far as I can see, due to the voracious bacteria which dwell in the Gulf of Mexico, most of the oil has been consumed. It was a horrible incident, in which 11 people died, but the overall impact seems to be less than we feared in the ugly days when the well was creating such tremendous contamination.

[civilisation]

11. lol,. you are hilarious;

"they are opening wider areas of the Gulf of Mexico for fishing, which means the fish are not showing toxic conditions." Really? or "they" just want to get people back to work so they have to pay less in damages, and don't really give a flyin' fck about the long term effects of contaminated fish on the people who eat them??

"as far as I can see, due to the voracious bacteria which dwell in the Gulf of Mexico, most of the oil has been consumed" Guess you can see the sea floor then? As loads of oil have accumulated on the bottom,. there are still traces and effects from the Alaska spill in 89!!

"I attribute to secret Republican agents who are trying to create a crisis where one doesn't really exist anymore." lol!! yeah ok anyone actually interested in the effects of tons of oil and toxic despercents dumped in the gulf are "secret Republican agents",. or this idea is a quaint denialist mechanism for folks that do not want to face hard truths about the effects of our industrial consumerist society, and it's inability to look even five years down the road.

Take off you rose colored glasses, the effects of that spill, and the toxic crap dumped to cover it up sink, will WAY outlive all of us alive today.

[bherrera]

20. Let's discuss science and not emotion

The effects of the oil spill will last forever. This is self evident. However, they will impact the environment less as time passes.

The point is not whether one is interested in the toxic matters being dumped in the ocean. The point is whether this particular oil spill has caused as much as damage as has been said. I see many unfounded reports, and the one at the top is one of them. It doesn't make any sense, and it seems to be an atempt to collect money from unsuspecting victims, rather than a genuine report. I am merely warning that this oil spill has caused the emergence of many artists who are interested in collecting money, rather than really helping the environment. People would do a lot more to help if they stop using plastic bags, which can not be biodegraded. Or if they oppose the ethanol subsidies, which lead to the excessive use of fertilizers, which are then dumped in the Gulf of Mexico, where they cause algal blooms, and de-oxygenate the water, killing everything in a large area known as the Mississippi dead zone. Do you Americans want to help more? Then stop driving those obscenely large vehicles you drive.

I know a personal example has little validity in the statistical world, but my family does well with a single small vehicle, we use public transportation, and live in a much more environmentally sound fashion, with all the garbage sorted properly for recycling, using our own bags in the grocery store to avoid use of new bags, and other methods which I know in the USA are so rare you are like on a different planet.

Thus the message is, beware of those who would take your money using unreliable reports, and focus on the important things. And the best focus is to change the way you waste energy and put dirty materials into the environment.

[tooeyeten]

12. How do we know?

"they are opening wider areas of the Gulf of Mexico for fishing, which means the fish are not showing toxic conditions. "

The EPA claims to not have any test available for dispersant Corexit.

[Joe Chi Minh]

17. What if Ugo Chavez carried out the tests? would that satisfy you?

[mindwalker_i]

13. Cool, next we can mine the gulf residnets themselves

for hydrocarbons. It'll be like soylent green, except for cars :D

[Uncle Joe]

14. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, kpete.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

15. K & R

:mad:

[rabies1]

16. Please join us in DC for Oil Spill rally

Day 2 of the "SpillIntoWashington" rally will be tomorrow on the mall - come one, come all.
Make those in DC hear that the BP lies are flatly unacceptable.
Also, look at the new MOTHER JONES magazine for a 14 pages of exposing the corrupt & morally vacant BP.

[JCMach1]

18. So, I guess we know where the oil went then...

:sarcasm:

[bherrera]

21. Yes. The latest reports show

A large portion was eaten by bacteria. This biodegradation effect is uniquely effective in the Gulf of Mexico because the bacteria in the ocean are already well suited to eat oil - there is a lot of oil in the Gulf of Mexico and they have evolved to eat it.

I have signed up to receive the email updates from the US government oil spill response task force, and they are providing a lot of information, which I am sure many of you are not bothering to read. I am an engineer living near a beach in Spain, therefore this is a hobby I am developing to make sure I know how to protect our beaches if this happens here, which I think could happen if an oil tanker has an accident.

According to the reports I saw this morning, there is approximately 18 % of the Gulf of Mexico closed for fishing because the water is too polluted to make sure the fish are fit to consume. There are in excess of 119 km of beaches which are considered fouled with oil. Also there is a report BP has applied for a permit to clean the oil which seeped underneath the sand in many beaches, but they require a special permit because to dig the sand below a certain depth is considered a violation of the archeology norms, and they will require an exception to dig down, and clean the oil fouled sand located underneath, where they already cleaned.

Fortunately for tourism, the beaches considered to have bad fouling are limited to 2 km in florida, which is where a lot of tourists go. This is overall showing the Obama administration is better managed than the Bush administration, and they have done a good job. And I do see a Republican movement to try to put this oil spill around the President Obama's neck, when this is clearly a result of a broken regulatory system which emerged when President Bush was in power.

[Devil_Fish]

22. Let me guess, You work for BP...

I found this part of you post humoris if not so sad:

"BP has applied for a permit to clean the oil which seeped underneath the sand in many beaches, but they require a special permit because to dig the sand below a certain depth is considered a violation of the archeology norms, and they will require an exception to dig down, and clean the oil fouled sand located underneath, where they already cleaned."

I call Bull Shit on this. The Oil wasn't under the sand untill BP covered it with trucked in "Sand Box" sand. They didn't clean anything. they just covered it up.

All of you post are an attempt to cover up for BP Wile falsly praising Obama to try to win favor from the people on this board. You are so transparent it is disgusting. But not as disgusting as BP's blatent manipulation of the Media and the U.S.C.G.