Cop Taser Dog Twice For a Very Long Time For No Reason

[Joanne98]

Run time: 02:47 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWr8_nmsK9Q   Posted on YouTube: August 03, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: August 03, 2009 By DU Member: Joanne98 Views on DU: 3075

 

[Dogmudgeon]

1. Bad cops and abused animals ...

Almost as good as a DU Pedo Frenzy!

:popcorn:

--d!

[TheEuclideanOne]

2. And the reason for tazering the dog the second time after

it was under control with a rope/chain around it's neck? Can somebody explain?

[MercutioATC]

9. Ever seen what a 60-pound Pit can do? It was only tased because it lunged.

[TheEuclideanOne]

13. At what point would you say that the tazing was excessive?

Ever? In your opinion is it a safe tool that just hurts a little, but okay to use because eventually the pain goes away? By that definition, you can justify tazing a person or animal over and over and over again. Where do you draw the line?

[MercutioATC]

15. In this circumstance or in general?

[TheEuclideanOne]

18. I would be curious to know your view on tazing in general.

(although I am curious to know your thoughts in this circumstance as well)

[MercutioATC]

22. In general: I believe that Taser use is the safest way to facilitate restraint.

...when appropriately applied. I concede that it is occasionally inappropriately applied, but this doesn't conflict with my statement...that's an education issue.

In THIS case: I see nothing wrong with the way in which the Taser was applied.

[TheEuclideanOne]

30. Perhaps the solution would be to have very harsh repercussions

when it is used "inappropriately". Quite frankly, I am tired of hearing of cases where cops taze people "inappropriately" and it is just dismissed as "a training issue" or "a few bad apples". Maybe if there were some ways to hold these cops accountable, then the abuse of this tool will stop. Perhaps the cops would be trained better as a result.

[MercutioATC]

32. I agree. It's an issue that should be dealt with.

That said, I DO believe that it's an educational issue...both from a procedural standpoint and a training standpoint. Tasers are a useful tool, but they're occasionally used inappropriately, and that could be mitigated by updated procedures and training.

Would there be some cops who would still misuse them? Of course. Deal with THOSE people and stop viewing Tasers themselves as "bad".

As an aside, having been hit with a Taser and having seen people with "Streamlight" tattooed on their foreheads because there was no other way to restrain them, I'd much rather be tased.

[AtheistCrusader]

34. If they didn't have tasers at all

they probably would have just shot the dog. Just sayin'.

[AtheistCrusader]

33. It doesn't help that the video is obscured.

It APPEARS that somehow the dog got the restraint off somehow, possible the operator lost control of it for some reason.

[FLstudent]

3. despicable

Ok, this story has seriously gotten to me. Im usually following the stories posted on here but this video was so despicable I had to sign up. Im tired of seeing so many cops abusing with the taser and nothing is ever done about it.

Heres a petition to save Otis's life: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/save-otis-the-boxers-life . They are trying to put him down because hes a 'pitbull,' yet hes a mixed breed to say the least.

[alstephenson]

5. Done.

[zippy890]

7. done eom

[TheEuclideanOne]

10. Thanks for posting that petition link

I signed it.

[Seldona]

44. Thanks for posting that.

Signed.

I feel ill after seeing and hearing that. Come on karma!

[midnight]

4. These tools have shown to be put into the hands of people

who can't work with them very well.

[DollyM]

6. big boys with toys they just have to play with . . .

eom

[MercutioATC]

8. "For no reason"????

It was a loose Pit mix that was barking and making sudden movements. It had to be restrained for public safety.

The officers only tased it until they could snare it...and then again once it lunged after being snared.


...and anybody who shrieks "TORTURE!!!" every time a Taser is used is an idiot. When I worked in law enforcement, I took a Taser hit to see what it felt like. Yes, it hurts a bit, but only while the current is being applied and it's really not bad.


I know that there are cases where death has resulted, but it's still the safest way to facilitate restraint.

[berni_mccoy]

11. That's not a Pit, that's a Boxer. And the cops did not have to do anything but ignore it.

Definitely was an abuse of holding that taser down.

[keith the dem]

14. So you know the circumstances that lead to this.

I have seen to many people and other dogs killed or injured by loose dogs like this. A dog like this is a very serious threat. I applaud these police for taking it seriously.

We have tried to file reports about loose threatening dogs, only to have the police ignore us.

[berni_mccoy]

16. A Boxer is not a "serious threat". Any cop worth their salt knows the difference.

[keith the dem]

19. I'm sorry, but any big aggressive loose dog is a serious threat

I have the bite marks to prove it, and have seen the vet bills from my friends dog that was viscously attacked. Stay in your dream world.

[berni_mccoy]

21. That dog (and breed) is neither big nor aggressive. You are letting your fears get in the way

Cops know when a dog is a threat and when it's not.

That dog was not being a threat. It was checking them out. If it was a threat, it would have behaved completely different.

[Plucketeer]

17. Let's say you're wrong.

Dogs bite people every day - breed is irrelevant. So let's say this cop gets bitten - maybe even severely by this big dog. Then what? We'd commend the cop for not inhibiting the poor, defenseless animal? Give the cop hell for not just ignoring the dog so that it can roam and intimidate or attack others? There are leash laws in every municipality. If folks are irresponsible about those laws, the cops have MY blessing to do as they see fit to control the critters.

[keith the dem]

100 % correct

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[MercutioATC]

24. More importantly, what if it bit a civilian?

A small child, perhaps....AFTER police had witnessed the dog's behavior and done nothing?

[berni_mccoy]

27. But it didn't. Stop making up hypothetical b.s.

[MercutioATC]

29. The genesis of this issue was that the dog wasn't contained.

Not fenced, not tethered, not leashed.

A loose dog is a public safety issue...especially a loose dog that's barking at people and running around.


The officers would have been negligent if they ignored it, and they couldn't snare it without tasing it.

The result of their actions is that the dog was snared without harming it and a possible threat was removed from the neighborhood.

[Plucketeer]

45. So......

hypothetically, it was a kind and gentle animal simply trying to make friends. And you know this, how?

[berni_mccoy]

26. If it had been a pit bull, then two things would have been different:

1. The dog would have behaved completely different (not to mention looked completely different) and
2. The cop would still not have been justified unless the dog posed an immediate threat, which it didn't

Dogs also save people's lives every day. Your point about frequency of dog bites is irrelevant to this situation.

[kayakjohnny]

20. I don't see a lick of boxer there

Looks like pit and something else or just pit.

[berni_mccoy]

23. Then you have no idea what you are looking at.

[Barrymores Ghost]

36. I agree, it may be part white boxer...but that, too, is irrelevant.

The dog was unrestrained, and while not attacking per se, it was clearly exhibiting aggressive behavior. It posed a clear potential threat to children, adults and other animals and needed to be captured. In this situation, it seems clear to me that the animal control officers could not accomplish this without a taser.

Perhaps they ran the gun too long, but that's not what you're arguing. You're saying that they should have just left it alone...that boxers aren't a threat. I'd argue you don't have a clue as to what YOU are talking about, all due respect, especially any knowledge of the breed - which was developed for fighting, hunting and pulling down large game, and as guard/attack dogs.

Peace.

[Mattylock]

37. That's what I was going to say

That's a boxer. My 3 are all bark and no bite.

[leftinportland]

43. wrong!

Either time was unnecessary especially the second time since they already had the dog on a catch pole - all the officer had to do is hold on to the catch pole.

[Seldona]

47. Anyone who claims tasers are not torture is an idiot.

What do you call the application of massive electric shocks, causing MASSIVE PAIN, if not torture? Or do you deny that the use of a taser causes excruciating pain?

It scares me to see how many people have bought the police's line on domestic torture. They are not all on the right, apparently.

[MercutioATC]

50. Have you ever taken a Taser hit? I have.

"Massive pain" is a massive overstatement. You feel some pain and you can feel the muscle spasms, but yes...I deny that it causes "excruciating pain". What pain there is also of extremely short duration.

All a Taser does is provide an electric shock that overrides the normal signals to cause muscles to spasm. It doesn't incapacitate through pain, but by signal overrides.

[keith the dem]

12. You obviously have never had a pit bull come at you!

I have repeatedly had loose vicious dogs come after me while walking my dog or while cycling. I think the cops acted reasonably in this case.

Get out of your dream world, these dogs can be nasty. They are the canine version of an assault weapon. Very little use but to show your machismo and to kill and injure.

[berni_mccoy]

31. Except that it wasn't a pit bull. The dog is a boxer (and clearly so).

[bertman]

38. You're wrong about it being a boxer. The muzzle is too long. It's part pit for sure.

[AnneD]

48. We have a pit mixed...

the dog has a classic pit heart shaped face. He was just doing a warning bark and was non aggressive.If the dog had meant business-he would not have had time to taser him.

When you have a hammer, all the world looks like a nail.

[UndertheOcean]

25. Good , the dog was a public safety hazard.

I don't see anything wrong with what the officers did.

Don't want your dog tazered , keep it on a leash

[rollingrock]

28. Dangerous dog

you have a pitbull running around on public streets, unleashed. where is the owner? the owner is extremely irresponsible for letting his dog run around like that without any restraint. it could have maimed someone. I think tazer abuse is a problem with the police, but here the use is more than justified. and irresponsible pet owners should be in jail.

[Barrymores Ghost]

35. It's a white boxer...my uncle had an identical dog, Oscar, for 10 years...

Boxers were developed as a fighting breed and for large game hunting in the 1800's...they tend to be very dominant, and do not back down. While we can argue whether these animal control officers overused the taser on this particular dog, it was loose and it would have posed a clear threat to area adults, children and other animals.

Just because it wasn't a pit bull, Rottweiler or a mastiff doesn't make it a poodle.

[bertman]

39. Look at the muzzle. The muzzle is way too long for a boxer. Boxers have "mashed-in"

muzzles.

[Barrymores Ghost]

40. I'll concede that it may be a mix. My point is:

The dog was aggressive, not backing down. The animal control officers were in the clear, regardless of whether it was a pit, Rott, boxer or rabid coyote.

[bertman]

49. I agree with you.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

41. The poor animal was in pain

and was afraid. I'm surprised these people aren't prosecuted for animal cruelty.

[Tutankhamun]

42. The dog was tasered so they could restrain it and get it into that truck.

Loose dogs should be picked up. Even if you're in a fantasy world where dogs are completely predictable, they should be picked up so they don't get hit by a car, get lost and starve, etc. Once they are picked up, their owners can come get them.

These dogs have to be picked up for public safety as well. There's no way for authorities to know whether the dog will attack someone or someone's pets.

I have a pit bull and once the authorities saved my dog when she got loose.

[Seedersandleechers]

46. That was fucked up

:cry:

[democracy1st]

51. thats a pitbull not a poodle,pits will kill you

[Darkhawk32]

52. At no point was that dog in any attack mode, it was just barking.

"It's still biting".

It was convulsing!!

Fucking assholes. Come try and taze me motherfuckers! You'd be eating that goddamn thing.l

Vicious fucks.