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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:13 PM Original message |
Howard Dean heckled by single payer advocates at Portland book signing. |
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Kid Dynamite (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. It is easy to defame Himmelstein |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I support single payer. I don't oppose public option, though. |
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Kid Dynamite (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. For all intents and purposes they are mutually exclusive |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Relax, DU is fast becoming single payer central. Don't worry. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I resent your saying I "defame" anyone. |
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Kid Dynamite (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I didn't say that you did |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Oh, the message of your post was clear. |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
49. This happens all the time.. |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
4. Dean's absence on the cable NEWS channels has been conspicuous, |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I don't think he's been on MSM since he said the Senate was self-destructing. |
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PSPS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. "one denuded public plan" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. He is really on the attack against Dean and against Obama's plan. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. You're right it's better to do nothing |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Irritate allies much? Public option is the best thing those without, |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Thanks... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
16. Here is the Part 2 video from Portland. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
17. A pretty fair assessment with more quotes from Horse's Ass blog. |
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tooeyeten (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
18. anything cutting into the profits of these thieves |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
19. Yay, another blogger weighs in on the attacks on Dean on this issue. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
20. It sucks to see that Dean has given in and stopped fighting for what's right = single payer. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. It is sad to see 3 progressive groups using him as target practice |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Dean & Obama are proving to be sell outs. That should be exposed. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Some say that public option is a step in the right direction. Some believe that is horseshit. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Then continue to attack the public option. See what we end up with. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #25 |
36. I am disappointed in you. I have never attacked the public option. I support it over nothing. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I see the handwriting on the wall. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I do also, but not going to give up. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. And it is pretty bad when DU allows constant attacks on the public option |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Deleted message |
madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. People like me? Please clarify. What am I like? |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. You tell me. What side are you on? Do you believe party trumps people? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Don't know how to answer that. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. What does your conscience say? People or Profits? Which is it? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I am a really big sell-out on health care, banks, environment, women's rights. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
30. Amazed to see how many agree its okay to heckle a man |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. People supported Dean when he was doing the right thing. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I am disappointed by progressive groups who tell congress not to vote for the public option |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. People are so desperate that they need to sell their very souls? No thanks! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
38. More from the Seattle heckling.... |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
40. sad to say, but our Dr Dean isn't all that pure in the health care issues--see this recent link-- |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. They are asking congress NOT to vote unless single payer. |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. the "heckling" goes both ways. I have been the recipient of scathing attcks on DU |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. So "perfect" is the new demand? |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Are you aware that your "perfect" is that critiques stop? And I mean that in the most gentle, |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I am not the one demanding that congress not vote unless single payer. |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. okay. take care. nt |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. In re-reading this, I notice that you used 'your "perfect"'. Please point to where I advocated not |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. This |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I'm not PNHP. Please try not to mis-attribute my words or my intent. To my knowledge, |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I will stop when they stop attacking the public option in post after post. |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I hear your passion and I think it's very hurtful how you are making it personal. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. DU is a place for a conversation. |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Thanks for replying. I think people here are going to have a multitude of |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Oh, if I were fearful of criticism, would I speak out so much and feel |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
48. A truly strong public option & the ability for states to create their own single payer systems |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. They are heckling a guy who strongly believes states could do single payer. |
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PatrynXX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
51. go Powells |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
58. Late K&R . . .We already have a plan set to go MEDICARE FOR ALL .... |
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