The Truth About the Assassination of RFK

[reprehensor]

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(All 9 parts here: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=CE5C1AC7BAA51C45 )

Lawrence George Teeter was Sirhan Sirhan's lawyer until his untimely death in 2005.

To mark the 40th anniversary of RFK's assassination, here is a talk by Teeter given November 14, 2000 entitled, "CIA Interventions: The Role of the CIA and the LAPD in the RFK Assassination". The talk was given at the Sepulveda UU Church. (Video posted with permission of justicevision.org)

R.I.P. RFK (1968), and Larry Teeter (2005).

You can order a DVD of this talk from justicevision.org

"Let's hear it for you... and people like you... who want to hear the truth, and want the truth to come out, and are not gonna rest until it all comes out." - Larry Teeter, 11-14-2000.

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. Talk about a slime ball ambulance chasing nitwit lawyer....

CIA LAPD my ass.

[L. Coyote]

3. Be sure to watch the DemocracyNow special on RFK today. "several assassins"

[WinstonSmith4740]

5. The evidence has been around for years...

Nobody has ever bothered to look at it. We're dealing with the same mentality that took out JFK and MLK. The shadow government wanted that war, and come hell or high water, they would have it. JFK had told his people that if the Vietnamese wanted democracy, they would have to fight for it themselves...he was getting our troops out of there. Three weeks later he was shot in the street like a dog.

The LAPD destroyed evidence in the RFK case. Like the door jam that proved there was another shooter in that room besides Sirhan. There were bullet holes in it that could not have come from Sirhan's gun, plus it showed that more shots were fired than his gun held. Their reason? They didn't fit in the file drawers. And there was, of course, the woman in the polka dot dress that said "WE got him" as she was running out the back. The police did nothing but intimidate the witness on that one.

I haven't watched the video yet, and it's been a while since I read the book regarding this stuff, but even if this was an "ambulance chaser" lawyer, he's right on this one. BOTH Kennedy's and MLK (and probably Medger Evers) were taken out by our own shadow government. It exists, C.O. And it's mean as hell.

[The_Casual_Observer]

6. Government conspiracies can't work, somebody would tell.

[beezlebum]

9. and all they have to do is bring out the old discrediting tin-foil hat

[The_Casual_Observer]

13. Bohemian grove members are too busy drinking & listening to

classic rock to be plotting the demise of liberty.

[razors edge]

15. Absolutely right.

They have up and coming wannabe aids for such things. Plausible deny ability, don't ya know.

[beetlejuiceonline]

47. Please Don't Believe These Crackpot Conspiracy Theories...

Sirhan Sirhan was a schizophrenic. He killed RFK for muddled reasons of his own, having to do with RFK's support of Israel. It's just sad and meaningless and robbed us of one of this country's greatest political figures.

These crackpot conspiracies are offensive to the memory of RFK. These armchair detectives know nothing about collecting real evidence and come up with wild speculation about a subject they know nothing about.

[reprehensor]

11. Nobody talked about the Manhattan Project.

"Born out of a small research program in 1939, the Manhattan Project eventually employed more than 130,000 people and cost nearly $2 billion USD ($24 billion in 2008 dollars based on CPI). It resulted in the creation of multiple production and research sites that operated in secret."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project

Thousands of government people clearly can, keep a secret.

[The_Casual_Observer]

14. The Rosenbergs did.

And a bunch of others. Anyway, the Manhattan project hardly qualifies as a criminal plot to assassinate a politician. It defies sensibility that Kennedy would have benn killed by Police & government agents and nobody would have ever spoken up about it or tried to stop it. It would have never happened.

[razors edge]

16. That right.

that is why every American knows that LBJ killed Diem, the democratically elected president of South Vietnam, right?

I mean whats the big deal, right? The fact we had troops dying there to preserve democracy (trademark Federal Reserve) has no significance here whatsoever either.

I dropped out after eleventh grade in 1983, I guess they saved this info for the seniors, cause it wasn't in my text books.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeNv_62v6WQ

[The_Casual_Observer]

17. Maybe because it didn't happen.

[razors edge]

19. Ok.

Maybe more than a "casual" observance of history is warranted on your part in this instance.

Did you not listen to LBJ admit the murder in his own words in the link I provided, or do you claim it to be a hoax? Or do you not believe he was assassinated at all, your response leaves your position unclear.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrest_and_assassination_of_Ngo_Dinh_Diem

The arrest and assassination of Ngo Dinh Diem, then president of South Vietnam, marked the culmination of a successful CIA-backed coup d'état led by General Duong Van Minh in November 1963. On the morning of November 2, 1963, Diem and his adviser, younger brother Ngo Dinh Nhu, were arrested after the Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN) had been successful in a bloody overnight siege on Gia Long Palace in Saigon. The coup was the culmination of nine years of autocratic and nepotistic family rule in South Vietnam. Discontent with the Diem regime had been simmering below the surface, and exploded with mass Buddhist protests against long-standing religious discrimination after the government shooting of protesters who defied a ban on the flying of the Buddhist flag.

When rebel forces entered the palace, the Ngo brothers were not present, as they had escaped the night before to a loyalist shelter in Cholon. The brothers had kept in communication with the rebels through a direct link from the shelter to the palace, and misled them into believing that they were still in the palace. The Ngo brothers soon agreed to surrender and were promised safe exile; after being arrested, they were instead executed in the back of an armoured personnel carrier by ARVN officers on the journey back to military headquarters at Tan Son Nhut Air Base.

While no formal inquiry was conducted, the responsibility for the deaths of the Ngo brothers is commonly placed on Minh's bodyguard, Captain Nguyen Van Nhung, and on Major Duong Hieu Nghia, both of whom guarded the brothers during the trip. Minh's army colleagues and US officials in Saigon agreed that Minh ordered the executions. They postulated various motives, including that the brothers embarrassed Minh by fleeing the Presidential Palace, and that the brothers were killed to eliminate a later political comeback. The generals initially attempted to cover up the execution by suggesting that the brothers had committed suicide, but this was contradicted when photos of the Ngos' bloodied bodies surfaced in the media.

[The_Casual_Observer]

20. Nothing about Johnson in that one. Anyway, if it was such a secret

how come it's on Wiki?

[razors edge]

21. Is that the best you can do?

Deny to the ends of the earth, put your fingers in your ears and scream NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

Sorry to have invaded your bubble, my apologies, you may continue your life of denial now.

[The_Casual_Observer]

22. No, I simply reject bullshit conspiracy legends. I leave it for convicts &

others with too much time on their hands & imaginary axes to grind.

[razors edge]

25. Your average of 325 posts per month

compared to my average of 194, would seem to imply you have more time to waste than do I.

That does mean, according to your own logic, that my posts are more relevant. I don't agree with your logic, nor do I agree with your assertion that I am somehow a convicted criminal or useless member of society because I present a fact you wish to deny.

You are entitled your own opinion, but not your own facts.

I suggest you purchase a new bullshit meter, your old one has been shown to be misleading, and someone with such a terrific grasp of the truth like you should not go around spreading misguided rumors without a reliable divining rod to guide them.

[The_Casual_Observer]

27. My god, a half ass logician/ philosopher too!

[razors edge]

28. I'd rather be half ass, than whole ass. n/t

[The_Casual_Observer]

29. You have your wish!

[razors edge]

30. And you still live in denial.

Blaming the messenger and calling names is so mature.

I'm in awe of your ability to defend your non position.

Did you listen to the You Tube link?

Do you deny it? Do you not understand it?

What part of this do you not get.

Relinked for your convenience and to dispel any question that you understand what I am talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeNv_62v6WQ

Address the audio, or don't, I don't care anymore. BTW, I don't judge LBJ for what he did, he must have had his reasons, but denial ain't just a river my friend. Conspiracies do exist, and you can't wish it away with worn out talking points. When you find yourself reduced to calling people names to make your point, you have already lost.

[liberalmike27]

40. Some Will Never Entertain the Possibility

Some think that every person along a chain, a long chain of people have to know. But only a couple of folks, perhaps even just one need to know about this sort of thing.

As far as involvement in JFK, a long string of people died who were involved, tangentally, in his death. There are a lot of theories. Bar McClellan wrote a book saying it was LBJ's lawyer, who hired several guys, including Oswald, two in the building, and one just off a nearby highway in a drain culvert.

Who knows? I feel like it is possible, and I think dark ops people keep secrets all the time.

But some people can never accept the possibility that someone can do something so terrible, without us all knowing about it. I always say, the only difference between someone who does petty crime, and this, is that rich, powerful people only have the capacity for greater evil, and good for that matter. It is completely possible, and believable.

Look at this war, and who profits, the direct connections with the families in the White House to the war, and its profitability. Yet evey with all of this, people still find it hard to believe someone would be so evil as to invade for profit. Money is a powerful force, a magnetic draw, and making money off governments is as old as time. I'm sure sword makers wished for wars back in Roman times.

[razors edge]

46. Great words my friend.

I don't proclaim to know the absolute truth, but a rotten fish does give clues.

We will never hear the planners admit their dirty deeds (this case being the one small exception) but I know the level of deception I am capable of, and if I were given power over other people I can imagine the attraction to use it in less than honorable ways.

[razors edge]

31. All it took was

a half ass logician/ philosopher to spank your ass, now didn't it?

Have a good night.

[DUlover2909]

36. Actually only one Rosenberg sold secrets.

His wife was railroaded. She was wrongfuly excecuted. Also, I am glad that atom bomb secrets were leaked to the Soviet Union. Otherwise the US would have used more nukes around the world.

[liberalmike27]

41. Yep

I think that is what the Rosenburgs concluded, assuming they actually did it. We all have to depend on what information we're given, and some choose to believe it without question, and some of us just can't see anything untoward.

People are killed every week for a couple of rocks of crack, or less, just mild irritation. Yet people can't believe someone would kill for Trillions in profit? Sorry, some would kill their mothers for that kind of money.

[barbtries]

45. it happened

over and over. watch "evidence of revision" on google video.

[1monster]

23. Loads of people did try to tell ... and there were some mysterious deaths

that occured to more than random odds could ever account for.

Obviously, you haven't looked into the available evidence that has been out there since 1968...

[baldguy]

24. Right, government conspiracies can't work.

Like the 2000 election, Iran-Contra, The Gulf of Tonkin, and the Iraq War.

[graegoyle]

44. Interesting view:

Evidence of a conspiracy is proof that the conspiracy does not exist. Beautiful in its stupidity.

[RainDog]

48. and ppl HAVE talked in the case of JFK

Ruby said Johnson was behind it... that's online - when he was being moved from one prison to another. LBJ's mistress of more than 18 years (who has letters from LBJ's lawyer about taking care of her and their son) said LBJ was involved... and big oil, according to LBJ. that's on You Tube with many diff. interviews of her.

then Blakley, one of the House Committee investigators, said the investigation should be re-opened after he learned of Johanaides -- that's not his name exactly -- I'm just typing this quickly... you can find that in Salon.com archives.

The House Select Committee on Assassinations, when they looked back at the JFK assassination, said there was more than one shooter.

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As far as RFK - there were more bullets than possible for only Sirhan's gun. David Morales was in the room... he was one of the bay of pigs guys who wasn't supposed to be there... so was Johanaides, or however you spell his name.

The girl who witnessed two people leaving the room was browbeaten by a fed. agent questioning her... this is also available to listen to online. She finally agrees to what he says to be able to go.

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The Martin Luther King family took a case to civil court and the judgment was in their favor that the blamed shooter didn't kill MLK.

Basically, most Americans don't want to admit that right wing totalitarians (aka fascists) have been fucking with our elections and nation for decades.

Because if you actually look at the conflicting evidence - that shows official investigations involved major cover ups-- again with testimony of participants AND photo proof in the case of RFK -- if you had to admit it was true, you would also have to admit that parts of the U.S. govt. have acted as traitors and to do nothing means you allow these things to happen.

oh, and the 2000 election was stolen too, in case you doubt that one.

[RainDog]

49. that was sarcastic

[Shoelace]

12. some pretty interesting reads here

with many links to other parts of the picture.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAkennedyR.htm

[reprehensor]

8. Talk about an ad hominem smear...

Anybody can do that.

[The_Casual_Observer]

10. Anybody can conjure up a half ass conspiracy plot too.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

26. I only watched 2 chapters so far...

But what I hear from the gentleman has more to do with chain of evidence than conspiracy theories. You should look at this a little more closely. I think you might find yourself surprised.

[RainDog]

50. The House Select Committee on Assassinations said there was a conspiracy to kill JFK

I repeat - The House Select Committee on Assassinations said there was a conspiracy to kill JKFK

was that another half-assed conspiracy theory?

yes, there are half-assed conspiracies out there.

however, there is also solid evidence. I noted some of it up thread. From what I read in your posts here, you really don't know what you're talking about, have no interest in finding out b/c you don't want to, and therefore you have to condemn what others say to make yourself feel better. What do you think about H.L. Hunt's deathbed confession... also implicating LBJ, members of the CIA and mafia hit men (who have been the ones ppl pointed to all along)

what about Clay Shaw, who, it turned out, really was a CIA informant? He lied about this on the witness stand. what about Barr McClellen, Scott's dad, who was a partner in the LBJ lawyers' firm, who said LBJ's lawyer admitted the assassination, as well as ballot stuffing long ago, and the murder of a guy by Malcolm Wallace, LBJ's hit man. Who, btw, was the only unidentified fingerprint in the TX School Book Dep. for years until someone sent it an expert who didn't know who/what he was looking at and found it matched?

what do you think about Operation Northwoods? That conspiracy did not go forward, but Robt. Baer wrote about it when he left the NSA.

What about Operation Paperclip? Do you know about that? google it. Gehlen Org. What about the Tuskeegee Airmen experiments.. giving v.d. to soldiers w/o their knowledge? Or the preggers women at Vanderbilt Hosp. who were used as guinea pigs? Both of these are now well documented, but they were NEVER talked about until years and years later.

There are conspiracies that occur ALL the time... the lies to invade Iraq is another one. A piss poor one, but one nevertheless.

Richard Clarke has talked about a Truth Commission to make sure the U.S. public is aware of the treasonous acts the Bush adm. commmitted... this is in part b/c other nations who honor int'l human rights laws have been petitioned to charge members of the admin. with war crimes.

JFK was killed b/c he was changing things. He fired Dulles (who was operation paperclip, fwiw). he was going to mess with oil leases to raise revenue for govt programs. he got unemployment insurance passed here so the right wingers said he was a commie, even tho every other west. dem. had this since WWII.

This nation needs to fumigate the halls of power.

[SquireJons]

38. Cui Bono? n/t

[L. Coyote]

2. For those of us working in the campaign, we won the White House that day

because the CA primary was the last major hurdle.

RFK was killed to prevent his presidency, and we have known that ever since!

The USA needs to come to terms with how the Republicans took power in 1968.
If we had done so in 1968, the presidency would not have been stolen again in 2000.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

4. REPUBLICAN PARTY IS CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY

WILL DO ANYTHING TO STOP REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT.

[ladywnch]

7. in part 2 of this presentation he mentions a great deal about the gun

and the bullets....all of which is kinda weird in so much that I had (literally) just finished watching Tom Brokow's 1968 show on the history channel and he talks with Rafer Johnson about that night and Rafer makes it very clear he still had the gun he took from Sirhan in his jacket pocket after RFK was pronounced dead...he talks about going to hang it up in his closet and the gun was still in his pocket. So, how could they have tested the gun that night (as reported by LAPD) if Rafer still had it in his pocket? I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it just caught my attention.

:shrug:

[wildbilln864]

18. good catch!

:kick: and recommended.

[Octafish]

32. When the LAPD destroyed the evidence six months after the crime, I smelled a rat.

Then there's the Special Unit Senator and the CIA's tie to the LAPD investigators and the entire government stinks.

Thanks for an excellent viddy, reprehensor. My Friday rabbit is going to fly by.

[lilgrasskikka]

33. Government conspiracy (sorry this is a bit of an encyclopaedia)

Anyone who denies even the possiblity of high-level government conspiracy... especially with regard to political assassinations... is disingenuous, to say the least. Certainly, such a person displays ignorance for history.

Assassinations is an explicitly political act. Furthermore, given the fact that most political figures have the best security of the time they live in, the plot to carry out an assassination usually involves a conspiracy of others:

44 B.C. The Ides of March. The self-proclaimed dictator for life lay dead on the senate floor (Julius Caesar). Who killed him? Slaves? Insurgent Gauls or Britons? The Jews were always very fractious, perhaps it was one of them? No. Caesar was killed by senators, for the number one reason why heads of state are killed: professional jealousy.

Just a smattering of historical assassins: the Siccari... the Hassassins... (from whom we get the terms assassin, and assassination)... The Black Hand... even John Wilkes Booth: all professional, rational, killers, with a cadre of accomplices, all of whom had professional, rational, motives (shifting the balance of power). This is just a tiny, random sampling.. there are MANY more.

Not in the United States, in the latter half of the 20th Century, though. John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Robert Francis Kennedy. Martin Luther King, Jr. John Ono Lennon. Even Ronald Reagan (the only republican on the list by the way. curious, no?)! All targeted (supposedly) by lunatic loners... who barely functioned in society, but could manage to pull off a crime of the highest magnitude.

What history we have access to (history not kept from us) has shown that the US government employed fascists and nazis when it suited their purpose. They have shielded war criminals from justice. They have actively participated in illegal drug smuggling and illegal weapons smuggling. They spied on their own citizens, and orchestrated plots against activists, engineered to disrupt and divide. They have even dosed private citizens with LSD, as well as chemical and biological weapons. They have courried out wars, both small and great. They toppled democratically elected governments, and supported illegal juntas. They have assassinated activists, public figures, and politicians (they even went so far as to publish manuals for assassination, to train groups like the Contras).

All of these things are very banal government actions. It's the sort of criminality you expect from government officials. This is they way of history. And, in a perverse way, I don't mind being ruled by sociopaths. At least it makes sense. But don't tell me that crazed loners with aimless grudges could succeed, again and again and again... where rational, intelligent, and ruthless men could not. That... i find insulting.

[rambler_american]

37. Even Ronald Reagan (the only republican on the list by the way. curious, no?)

Maybe not so curious. Reagan's primary opponent and subsequent VP (who obviously stood to succeed Reagan as POTUS in the event of Reagan's death) was father to Neil Bush who was to have had dinner with the brother of the putative assassin, John Hinckley. This was reported on NBC News by John Chancellor whose facial expression conveyed more than his words.

According to the March 31st, 1981, edition of the Houston Post, and reported by AP, UPI, NBC News and Newsweek, Hinckley is the son of one of George H.W. Bush's political and financial supporters in his 1980 presidential primary campaign against Ronald Reagan; John Hinckley Jr.'s elder brother, Scott Hinckley, and Vice President Bush's son Neil Bush had a dinner appointment scheduled for the next day.<4>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley,_Jr.

There is also a fuzzy photograph that puts GHWB in Dallas on the day of the JFK assassination but it's too fuzzy to make a positive identification.

Make of this what you will. Me, I think the Bush family is the Soprano family on steroids.

[Octafish]

42. Secret Service Agents who believed the assassination of JFK was a conspiracy

http://www.geocities.com/zzzmail/palarma.htm

It's good to want to know the truth.
It's bad to tell people to shut up.

A most hearty welcome to DU, lilgrasskikka.

[JohnyCanuck]

34. kick n/t

[DUlover2909]

35. Thanks for posting =)

I was pretty ignorant about this case until today.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

39. I learned something new today about RFK ...and I thought I knew him well

I loved him

Joe McCarthy was Godfather to RFK's oldest child Kathleen Townsend

WOW!

[lilgrasskikka]

43. This has bothered me for a long time...

The Founding Fathers said the only way to preserve the democracy was to be eternally vigilant. They knew that tyranny was ever present, and that attacks by tyrants and attempts to seize power, by force or guile, were inevitable. That's the reason for the constitution. Not to stop invasion. Not to stop revolution. To STOP TYRANNY.

Vigilance.

The People watch the government. The government protects the Constitution. The Constitution defends the People.

Vigilance.

And now here we are, and many people are spouting that time-honored line, 'Nothing to see here... move along.' That's bullshit. I'm sorry. No other way to say it. That's a citizen's job! Look. See. Percieve. Respond.

And all of these idiots sticking turnips in their ears and singing "la la la... not listening! See? I can't hear you!" Thanks for shirking your duties as citizens.

You see: they don't say, "political assassinations/coup d'estat/high level conspiracies could happen (indeed, have happened), just not in this specific case... and here is the evidence." That, I can appreciate, even respect. That is a difference of opinion, and doesn't represent childishly wilful ignorance. No, at even the barest suggestion that the present facts don't match what we know and believe... these fools resort INSTANTLY to the old turnips-in-the-ears trick, and that song "La la la I ain't listenin'!"

Well, I don't sing that tune. And I certainly don't dance to it.