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lvasconcellos Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:13 PM
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O'Reilly Gets His A** Kicked Down the Block!
 
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Posted on DU: January 07, 2007
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O'Reilly is losing it. In this one he tries to label Sunsara Taylor (from World Can't Wait) a lunatic. Guess who ends up looking like an ANGRY lunatic!!:bounce: AWESOME!

"Heed not the blind eye, the echoing ear, nor yet the tongue, but bring to this great debate the test of reason." Parmenides
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:27 PM
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1. My favorite part is when Bill calls her a kook and she gives him the...
"Oh Billy, you nut." smile.
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lvasconcellos Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:54 PM
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7. Cool qoute!
Too bad the necons didn't read it!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:35 PM
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19. That was terrible
She did nothing. She sat there and let him point on his fingers, as if reeling off bullet point facts, that she is a "lunatic" (not kook) several times, claiming her organization had 50 members, claiming that everyone in America thinks she's an idiot and a lunatic, and she just smiles at him. Fuck that. We wonder why the republics think democrats can't defend America...we don't even defend ourselves against assholes like O'Lielly when the opportunity is handed to us on a silver platter.

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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 08:03 PM
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48. No she directly confronted Bill O'Reilly's lies...
Edited on Mon Jan-08-07 08:04 PM by MN Against Bush
When he claimed 50 people she said "that's another lie" she did not go easy on him, she kicked his ass.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:28 PM
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2. Wow o'Reilly looks more irrelevant than ever in this clip.
Very Nice! I want a copy of that.
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lvasconcellos Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:53 PM
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6. No kidding!
Maybe his testosterone RX ran out!!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 02:40 AM
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53. She did us proud. Calmly and clearly pointing out the facts.
:applause: :-)
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:31 PM
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3. Why are they protesting at a Rahm Emanuel press conference...
isn't he for bringing the troops home as soon as possible? Please tell me yes, because I have really begun to like this man a lot.
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Future Principal Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:41 PM
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4. he's dlc. that right there should be your answer.
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lvasconcellos Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:52 PM
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5. Rahm is not exactly on the cutting edge
of progressive democrats. All along he had a "let's wait and see" attitude about the war, and basically dissed strong anti-war candidates like Tammy Duckworth (see article) He tends to lean right of center for a dem and it's more about money and power than principle. (in my opinion)
http://www.counterpunch.org/walsh10142006.html
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lvasconcellos Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:00 PM
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9. Here's more on Rahm, He's not so easy to read...
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:29 PM
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25. Look at his website. No word on ending the war he supported.
He recruited candidates for the Dccc. Many were prowar. Mcnerny won against pombo, and he is a great antiwar congressman.

The candidate Rahm recruited was not anti-war. thank god he lost.
I hope someone runs against Rahm next time.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:55 PM
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8. I think Bill always looks stupid but I don't like that Cindy thinks she speaks
for every person who voted for the Dems. I do not think that the first thing they need to do is bring everyone home. Cindy says they elected the new Dem majority and they owe her. I didn't have anything to do with Cindy and I helped elect that majority too. She is not the voice for every person who voted for Dems. They want to protest--that's fine and their right. But don't do it in my name!
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lvasconcellos Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:02 PM
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10. The interview is with Sunsara Taylor and not Cindy Sheehan
Just curious..Do you favor staying in Iraq?
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:35 AM
Response to Reply #10
54. Cindy Sheehan is leading the protest
n/t
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. I missed the part where Cindy was on
...Did my version of the clip end early?
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lvasconcellos Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:09 PM
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13. No, but I have an interview she makes with Faux News reporters and holds her own
Want me to post it?:hi:
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lvasconcellos Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:17 PM
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16. Okay, it's posted!
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #8
26. The dems DO owe the antiwar people. Big time.
Cindy never said it was about owing her personally.

If you are a dem who supports the war, fine. You and Rahm are not alone. But most people who voted for the dems do oppose this illegal immoral war.
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lvasconcellos Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 05:33 PM
Response to Reply #26
32. Right on Tom!
And besides, even the smarter republicans are jumping ship on this baby!
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 05:49 PM
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45. Amen, Brother! n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #26
47. The peace community stepped up big time to help Dems get elected
So yes, you are right - the Dems do owe us.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #8
46. The interview wasn't with Cindy
Did you watch it?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:04 PM
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11. Brava! Brava!
Ms. Taylor held fast and kept repeating the truth.

We need more like her!
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:10 PM
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14. There was a thread here recently about WCW, and filled with red-baiting
garbage. It was like someone was channeling Bill. Sad to see.
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lvasconcellos Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:28 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. The problem is
that when some people see the word "socialist" or "communist" they freak out without looking at the context of the word. I hope we are bigger than that. To me, anyone who has the determination to speak out against our Dictator in Chief deserves respect and consideration to listen to their message, even if I don't agree on everything they are saying.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:14 PM
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15. Sunsara Taylor conducted herself extremely well considering
...the lunatic Bill O'Lielly tried not to let her get a word in anywhere. O'Lielly failed of course, but even though he lost the debate he ended up taking credit for a victory. Bullshit O'Lielly!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:32 PM
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18. You really think Billo got his ass handed to him?
Wow. I guarantee you, to his audience it was Billo who kicked Taylor through the uprights for the winning point. While she held her own and didn't lose it, Bill did exactly what the righties and the fundie kooks love...he insulted, he called names, he vilified, he made broad sweeping accusations, and he dominated the debate with his snarky, childish, unsubstantiated bullshit. All that equals "The Truth" to the republics. To them, I'm sure Billo triumphed. Sunsara could have done much more, imho, to put O'Lielly in his place. Remember who this audience is...you don't "win" on Fox News by being civil. You only win by stooping to their level, otherwise you're just another hippie wimp to their viewers.

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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. Billo could do anything and his audience would love him
it's no different than the nutjobs that still love W
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lvasconcellos Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 05:29 PM
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30. I see what you are saying but...
in my opinion O'Reilly's main (or only) tactic is to insult people so they lose their composure and break their train of thought, sometimes even falling to his level. He usual achieves this by interrupting and talking over his victim (I mean guest). Granted she didn't say to him what I'd like to say (which would probably mention a loofah or two) but on a scale of logic and staying on focus, he didn't offer anything that came close to her argument.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 05:59 PM
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35. I won't argue with you on that point...he didn't offer anything
But that is MY point...the freepers and the folks at Certifiable Underground eat that shit up. That is what THEY think "winning" is. Not making points or offering facts...just beating up your opponent. And in this case, Bill clearly "won." And I'm sure the freepers would agree with. He just kept telling her she is a lunatic, EXACTLY as what would have happened to Taylor, or any one of us, if we tried to post on Certifiable Underground or FR...every poster will join in the call you names until you break down and leave or start calling names back at them, at which point they deride you for calling names.

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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 09:14 PM
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39. So? That's what shows them for the empty wrong headed people the are.
If you yell back you just look like they do. I think she did a good job holding her own and staying to the point and not letting him get to her, which is clearly what he's trying to do. I don't think he got his ass handed to him but he lost because he didn't get the reaction he wanted and she made her point.
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lazyriver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:59 AM
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44. I agree with your take on the clip and offer this suggestion:
Nobody can 'win' on Faux News unless you share their views. Just as one cannot win a battle of wits with the witless, one cannot succeed in the Faux News forum. They are like little kids that say, "I know you are but what am I" in an argument or mimic every word and gesture someone else makes until that person walks away shaking his or her head in disgust. Then they declare victory. Let's face it, if you aren't a kool aid drinking Bushbot, you will not advance your point by going on Faux News. Unless someone wants to stomp some ass like the Big Dog did to Wallace, why bother appearing?

All progressives, democrats, liberals, and anyone else who is not a right wing nut job should stand in unity and vow to NEVER appear on that bullshit network again. Let them be a sounding board for the 30% of the 'backwash'. If all they have is the same old propaganda regurgitated from WH press releases, some of their viewers will drift away. When progressives participate in their charade, they add just enough of a hint of believability to the "Fair & Balanced" bullshit tagline to keep some Faux viewers who might be trying to think on their own from jumping ship.

"See, we had a Librul on our show. We gave her equal time and see how she wasted it just being a lunatic? We tried to be fair and balanced but see how crrrrazy they are?"
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:38 PM
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20. I can see O'Really condemning the Boston Tea Party.
He is just a prostitute for the powers that be. A complete and utter coward.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:55 PM
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21. Rahm Emmanuel wasn't drowned out. He could have talked...
...with the chant in the background if he so chose. I can hear him clearly.
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lvasconcellos Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #21
31. Exactly!
he handled it like a wimp. Maybe he's good at fund raising but he sucks on the talk shows. (Sorry Rahm fans)
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:13 PM
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23. Yah know, my mother likes O'Reilly.
Edited on Sun Jan-07-07 02:21 PM by Deep13
I can't figure it out. Is there some kind of psychological need to believe that we Americans are always right? Is it that need that finds it reassuring to call dissenters "lunatics?"

on edit:
If that young lady is a lunatic then she is my kind of crazy.
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sn102291 Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #23
50. Ouch
If my Mom was a fan of Bill O'Rielly, I'm not sure what I'd do. Maybe tie her down in a chair and talk sense into her? Bill O'Rielly is a poor excuse for human being, let alone a newscaster. Who else tells a guest on his show, live, that they are a lunatic? Not anyone else I've ever heard of. I'm surprised Fox News puts up with him. Wait, no I'm not.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 12:12 AM
Response to Reply #23
51. Mine does, too. :(
Of course, she likes Limbaugh, Robertson, Falwell and Shrub. :shrug: Whatya gonna do?
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:25 PM
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24. I don't understand
Edited on Sun Jan-07-07 02:25 PM by Turbineguy
why anybody goes on Faux News to be "interviewed". It only gives Faux some credence to their claim of being fair and balanced. Those who know better won't watch anyway, those who do watch aren't likely to be swayed. Better to have no democrats, no anti-war people etc on there. Let them have their star-chamber of wingnuts.
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:36 PM
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27. Why is Sunsara Taylor always on Faux News?
Edited on Sun Jan-07-07 02:44 PM by Puregonzo1188
Because she's a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party, a Maoist cult of personality centered around someone named Chairman Bob. The first time (or at least to my knowledge) she was on was to talk about Terry Schivao. She and her fellow RCPer came on and in the most beautiful, articulate manner explained exactly what was wrong with the what the Congress did interfering in the Judicial Branch's decision, separation of powers, etc. And than how did the host of Fox And Friends respond, by asking her about her Communist views, which she want on to explain making her look like a lunatic and supporting the statement that only a "handful of communist" supported Michael Schivo. There's a video somewhere of it, if I find it I'll post. My point is is that only reason Fox brings on Taylor (and to my knowledge she's been on three times) is because although she is very articulate, and intelligent and can defend mainstream progressive views at the end of the day she's automatically discredited because she's Maoist.

In her defense though, she did hand Bill his ass.
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lvasconcellos Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #27
34. Strange that Billo didn't
go down that path. Someone else was mentioning that Fox is the only one that ever interviews Cindy Sheehan also. I know they have a a strategy, but I haven't totally figured it out. Must not be Rovian enough.
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 06:59 PM
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36. Well I don't really know why they would be the only one to interview
Cindy Sheehan, as I don't think there's anything to discredit her or the antiwar movement, whereas Sunsara can go on and on about checks and balances, seperations of power, and all of those other things in our contitution for atleast five minutes and all it takes to undo that is to ask her about her relation to the RCP. I mean its bad enough she's a Maoist, but to have her leader named Chairman Bob, I mean how can anyone take that seriously?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:43 PM
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28. I don't agree with Sunsara Taylor about strategy.
She wrote for August 20, 2006 publication that it's better to protest in the streets than to try to elect Democrats.

We'd still have a Republican Congress if every DUer had followed her advice:
http://revcom.us/a/057/lamont-en.html
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:50 PM
Response to Reply #28
29. Look at where she wrote that
In the paper for the Revolutionary Communist Party.

Someone earlier in the post made a comment that about red-baiting involving the WCW, and that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm a big fan of of the WCW and have been to two of their rallies in DC. However, there used to be a video, I can't find it now, in which someone on Fox and Friends said the only people supporting Michael Schivo were a "handful of communists" and they than proceeded to bring Sunsara Taylor and another member of the RCP. Like I said earlier, almost all of the arguments where about the constitution, but the host than proceeded to ask her about her Maoist views which served to discredit her and in the aims of Fox, anyone else holding such views.

I have no issues with WCW or communists in the antiwar movement. I just know that in the past Fox has brought her on to discredit certain mainstream views and wonder if thats what their goal is this time.
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lvasconcellos Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #28
33. True!
We need all the dems we can get and more!!
Just think what could have happened if Ned Lamont had gotten the job and not Lieberman. Now we are forced to read his lying editorials and see his ugly face on Meet the Press. Even the republican that ran would have been better than Joe, who day before yesterday spoke at AEI to all those warmongers and asked for congressional leaders to take the "courageous" step of supporting Bush in the "surge" How courageous is it Joe, to send someone else to die for no reason?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. I prefer that Lieberman won than Alan Schlesinger (R)
...because now we have control of the Senate.

But I'm not expecting to donate to Lieberman in 6 years to help him keep his seat.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 09:08 PM
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38. why are ratings disabled for this video???????????
Edited on Sun Jan-07-07 09:16 PM by cui bono
Why does Billo hate our ratings? Oh... right, got it. :)

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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 10:01 PM
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40. What is that wierd accent that she and some other people have, like Johnny Damon
I can't put my finger on it and I'm pretty sure it's not regional. It's like a semi-impediment.
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lvasconcellos Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. I think it's the way
her teeth and lips fit together when speaking that make it difficult to make certain sounds
because I've heard other people talk like this and I don't believe it's an accent. Very slight and interesting. I don't have any difficulty getting what she's saying.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:32 AM
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43. I don't have any difficulty either and I'm not trying to be insensitive with my question
I guess I should have put it a different way and also said I'm interested in it.

here's the first youtube vid I could find of Johnny Damon talking cause he's the one other famous person I can think of who has this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b_BXhcdoys
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #40
57. You like me, you like me!
As the creator of the Clark/Obama banner, I'd like to express my thanks, and to invite anyone else to copy it!

:headbang:
rocknation
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Dangerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 10:30 PM
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42. O'Reilly is a nutcase!
Why my mom watched him everyday and "agrees" with him is beyond me.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 12:18 AM
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52. Idea: support forum for people whose moms like O'Reilly
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 08:21 PM
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49. How damn rude
Bill, would you treat a guest in your own home like this?

How dare he think that he speaks for the majority. What an ass.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 03:47 PM
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55. He's such a prick.
"You're a lunatic." Nice one Bill.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:21 PM
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56. Keep up the good work, Shill--I mean, Shrill--I mean, Pill--I mean, Bill!
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 12:48 PM by rocknation
He lost the argument right out of the gate with his question about how the "extreme left" intends to "appeal" to "the middle." He's still playing THAT broken record? In case you missed the last election, Loofah-lafel, it was your precious so-called "middle" who showed the Republican Congress the door, ushered in a slew of new governors AND re-elected EVERY Dem incumbent! And in case you haven't noticed, they're not too crazy about the Iraq occupation, either. But I'm NOT complaining!

If the extreme right wants to remain in their Bush-guns-and-God-worshipping bubble despite the fact that it's been burst, that's fine with me. The better to further alienate "the middle" and lower your ratings with, my dear! So go, Loofah-lafel, go! RAH RAH RAH!


rocknation
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