Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Kerry's Painful 2004 Leason: Ignore the Pundits - Huffington Post

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:14 AM
Original message
Kerry's Painful 2004 Leason: Ignore the Pundits - Huffington Post
Excellent point, that every politician should remember.

One thing to add to that. Ignore the Democratic strategists and bigwigs as wellt, as most of them were opposed to delaying the acceptation of the nomination, but nowhere to be found to go on TV and defend Kerry vigorously.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-boehlert/kerrys-painful-2004-leas_b_18891.html

Kerry's Painful 2004 Leason: Ignore the Pundits (5 comments )
READ MORE: Tom DeLay, CBS, Tim Russert, NBC

It's interesting that when pressed over the weekend by NBC's Tim Russert to note the key misstep from his 2004 presidential campaign, Sen. John Kerry singled out his decision to accept federal campaign funds, in part because the funds came with some stringent strings attached. Kerry now says those strings hindered his ability to battle the Republican attack machine.

...

You might recall that in May 2004, the Kerry camp suggested delaying, by a few weeks, officially accepting the Democratic nomination until after the party's July convention because once that nomination was received, federal law limited how much money Kerry could spend between the time of the nomination and the time of the general election. ($75 million.) The hitch was that the GOP, likely trying to play up the Sept. 11 themes of terrorism, had scheduled its New York City convention later than ever--into the first week of September--which meant that in terms of dollars and cents, the Democrats had to make their $75 million last 13 weeks while the Republicans had to stretch their $75 million over just 8 weeks; advantage Republicans.

...

In retrospect, the notion of delaying nomination in order to have more money on hand to respond to GOP attacks looks like a pretty smart one. But at the time, the pundits teed off on Kerry and his plan. It was "silly" "bordering almost on fraud" (Brit Hume), "ridiculous" (David Broder), a "dangerous move" (John Harwood), "the stupidst move that John Kerry could possibly make" (William Safire). The strategy, the pundits cried, "reeks of indecisiveness" (Houston Chronicle) and was a "farce" (Los Angeles Daily News). Here's how CBS's Bob Schieffer played the story: "When I heard that John Kerry may delay accepting his party's presidential nomination until a month or so after its convention in order to get around campaign laws and spend more on his campaign, my question was: Are these people nuts?"

Incredulous talking heads were certain the idea was a loser because it placed too much emphasis on campaign funds and because it looked like Kerry was trying to bend the campaign rules. That's all well and good. But where, during the month of August when the Swifties lobbed their fantastic tales (the confused vets could barely keep their shifting, 35-year-old stories straight), were Broder, Harwood, Hume, Safire, Schieffer and the Houston Chronicle and the Los Angeles Daily News? They all lectured Kerry about accepting the nomination in July and about playing by the existing campaign rules. But when the Swifties tore up the campaign rules, most journalists stood quietly by.

Democrats should take note.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:17 AM
Response to Original message
1. don't ignore them. pay close attention, for they are your enemies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #1
6. Ignore as in : dont do what they want.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:28 AM
Response to Original message
2. what is worse he was given a warning shot before all hell broke loose
druge reported an affair between kerry and an aide, which Kerry did NOT comment on. The aide later came forward, and said it was a lie, and she had no relationship with kerry. This event caused the kerry campaign to become complacent when other distortions were presented, especially the swift-boating of him. Not only was it a big mistake, it was STUPID NOT to answer these false charges immediately.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. He answered and the media were not there.
In both cases.

Had he have money to pay for the ads, they could have answered more strongly by ads. Because of the STUPIDITY of the Democratic establishment, he could not.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #4
9. Not entirelly true
For one thing, he did NOT respond to the original druge accusation. It was only the aide who eventually responded

He had ample opportunity to go on shows and rebutt the swift puke lies, and waited MONTHS, and even then it was his surrogates who did it, and not much of him

As far as the ads, he had quite an unused surplus of case which was never used. His campaign management was piss poor


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. He did answer - He did it on Imus and said there was nothing there.
It disappeared very quickly, as it was clear for most that there was no truth there.

For the Swift Boats, he did NOT wait months. Actually, he spoke as early as August. You're right, few Democrats went to his defense. This tells us a lot about what you can expect from other Democrats (thanks for those who did, but there were few).

As for the ads, he could not use this money after the Convention, which is exactly what this article is about.

But why bother with facts?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. no offense, but how many people wathc imus?
At best it was a very weak rebutal against the swift pukes, and it was too little too late.

Was not trying to ignore the facts, and not being able to use the money until after the convention was definitely a strategic blunder

As long as we learn from our mistakes, especailly that the democrats better stick together, then we will suceed.

For 2006 the issue is VERY SIMPLE:

If you want an escallation of war and more war, vote in a republican majority to congress. If not, vote Democratic


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Check the DU Research Forum
It has the chronolgy of Kerry's defense then, and includes a midAugust speech to the FIREFIGHTERS CONVENTION where he attacked the swiftliars and - oddly enough - no news media showed the speech and few even reported it.

Why? Because the last thing BushInc wanted was Kerry being shown all over the newsmedia with all those Firefighters in a post 9-11 world and especially while attacking Bush and his swiftliar operatives.

No way was it just happenstance that no news media carried that speech.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:31 AM
Response to Original message
3. Not an issue of money but of mocksey
The swift boaters hardly spent any money, Kerry didn't react to them soon enough & in the eyes of the public didn't fight back, which leads to a wimp factor. Can't play the high road when the opposition isn't. The Dem convention should not have been held in Boston & could have used a lot more attacking of Bush & the GOP instead of trying to play nice.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. False and you know it. As for the Democratic Convention in Boston
This was decided in 2002. Nothing to do with Kerry.

But why try to know the truth if you can attack Kerry. :sarcam:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #5
8. It was a bone thrown to Kennedy
and it shouldn't have been.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:36 AM
Response to Original message
7. Gore picked Lieberman and ran away from Clinton to appease
the Beltway pundits. How'd that work out?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 02:45 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC