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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 10:23 AM
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So, journalism is now about expressing opinions based on facts. And costs.
STOP PRESS: The penultimate paragraph features my epiphany... and is be a post on its own... this post is the original. And then it all made sense.





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Fuck you, pioneer press. Fuck off. We haver real employment problems and people who WILL do the work. But can't because it's more fun to bring in the poor - and exploit them to death while letting your own born countrymen starve. And to let the single, who don't have the time to work numerous piss-poor-paying jobs to make ends meet, rot and die. That is clearly what you are saying. So I repeat: Fuck off.

Let's first talk about unbiased journalism:

Fuck off, you anti-american slime. Journalism is not taking sides and opining on that side for a lengthy period of time. I don't give what the fuck the issue is. And especially since you're using a Bush tactic on a previously Liberal ideal, we know something's afoot... Those against this "guest worker" bullshit are not disruptors. You are. The media is openly manipulating emotions rather than stating facts objectively, imposing no viewpoint.

Now let's talk about money and why $8/hr means more to some than to others. It's not entirely about greedy workers...

Despite America's appetite for low-skilled, cheap workers, it is virtually impossible for them to enter the United States legally under current law. Some immigrant-dependent communities worry that a crackdown could devastate local economies.

Now consider how its appetite to sell off high skilled jobs to countries with people who are only as experienced as the degrees they just got. Things are turning to slop by turning away experienced people in favor of low cost.

And that's all it's about, folks. LOW COST. Fucking people all over the place. Fucking quality. It's BALANCE SHEET FODDER. Not people. Don't give me the spurious morality about "oooh, the people!" Look into the ENTIRE SITUATION and you'll see that all you're doing is unwittingly (or willfully?) supporting exploitation and rubbing dirt into the hopes of real people. Hopes that won't EVER become true because of the truly spurious morality being thrusted out by the media. It's all a game to them. DON'T FALL FOR IT.

Police and prosecutors in communities with heavy immigrant populations say they have "ghost" populations who do business under false identities and are afraid to call for help. This makes it harder for authorities to focus on the underside of immigration, such as drug dealing.
Oh, so drug dealing is only done by illegals. How convenient.

"Industry is addicted to cheap labor,'' said Pablo Tapia, an advocate for immigrant workers in the Twin Cities.

Let's just admit people want to be exploited. Which means all we truly believe is a pipe dream. There is nothing left to argue. Let's vote the "guest worker" program in and be done with it. Forever.

Blaming immigrants looking for work, said Mower County Attorney Patrick Flanagan, is "like blaming fish for biting at the lure.''
How about the masses of unemployed US-born? What are they? The feces of the fish? That's what's happening. Unskilled labor anybody can do. But not all Americans have families or are able to work (or find) enough jobs to work 24/7 to be able to live on today's high prices. And when the jobs requiring brainpower are removed, far more people are left to die than those wanting to come in. They are being treated as worthless. As feces.

He said there are not enough "willing backs" among Minnesota resident workers to plant and cultivate at the wages offered, and immigrant workers have proved reliable and hardworking. While employers check documents and try to follow the rules when hiring immigrants, he said, "there is no doubt some percentage of the immigrant workers in our labor pool are illegal, undocumented."

Key words: wages offered. It's a game to these greenbackfuckers.

Just like how there aren't enough qualified workers for IT, hence its offshoring... but if "qualified" means needing a Bachelor's degree to get into a entry level Helpdesk position paying $10/hr with no benefits worthy of the epithet "benefits", this is beyond a joke.

A third of the way into this tedious article is finally when we get a different viewpoint, but we got all the emotional masturbation about supporting the other side first - that is not journalism.

U.S. Rep. Gil Gutknecht, R-Rochester, argues that employers would have more willing workers if they paid more. He cites evidence that average meatpacking wages have declined since the 1980s as immigrant workers have entered the workplace.

"What they're really saying is: 'We can't find them at wages we want to pay. So we're asking government to look the other way, so we can distort the market,' " Gutknecht said.


Sheesh. I'm agreeing with a Republican. So should more Dems; this is a BIPARTISAN ISSUE. He is utterly right that people will work for proper wages because unlike many immigrants, many of us DO NOT HAVE FAMILIES, all of which work together to make the combined wages into something liveable. Hell, many people will work now because they rather enjoy living. :dunce: And I'm sorry if any of you think I'm evil for agreeing with a Republican. Once in a while, they can be right too. It's not the messenger I care about. It's the message.

American workers, Bailey said, don't want to be out there digging in the dirt. Every spring the company's work force adds 500 seasonal laborers, many of them immigrants. It's hard physical labor under extreme weather conditions at $8 an hour.

Well, immigrants and their families are used to such physical labor; that's what they do in their own countries for much less. And I wouldn't mind doing it if I was able to come home and relax and have my life afterward... To a family of them, one person making $8 multiplies along with as many family members who do the work. This is a veritable gold mine for them. Duh. But how about the people who don't have any families of any sort? $8 doesn't even begin to pay the bills! $13/hr is a living wage; about the minimum needed in today's high cost world. People need money to live on. And the single are being punished and told, by these actions, to fuck off and die. It seems I know my fate after all.


I'm sorry. I had to vent. But I just realized what's going on. Why the repugs are "pro-family". More people working at lesser wages. More often. Single people are bad. Unworthy. They can not conform. They are warped, disfigured pus. Unloveable. Alone. Dross. Stinking offal. Anybody who has spare time is unworthy and might even think, one way or the other. That is detrimental. And as Dems who are for "guest workers" are also for their exploitation and the cruel deaths of people who have no families who lose their jobs and can't get enough other jobs to survive... I'm not going to whine or cry anymore. I'm going to smile, keep my head up, and live while I can. I know I'll be rotting in the streets one day. And if that's my fate, I have to accept it graciously. It's better than death, isn't it?
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