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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:36 PM
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Drone aircraft may prowl U.S. skies
Unmanned aerial vehicles have soared the skies of Afghanistan and Iraq for years, spotting enemy encampments, protecting military bases, and even launching missile attacks against suspected terrorists.

Now UAVs may be landing in the United States.

A House of Representatives panel on Wednesday heard testimony from police agencies that envision using UAVs for everything from border security to domestic surveillance high above American cities. Private companies also hope to use UAVs for tasks such as aerial photography and pipeline monitoring.

*snip*

In a scene that could have been inspired by the movie "Minority Report," one North Carolina county is using a UAV equipped with low-light and infrared cameras to keep watch on its citizens. The aircraft has been dispatched to monitor gatherings of motorcycle riders at the Gaston County fairgrounds from just a few hundred feet in the air--close enough to identify faces--and many more uses, such as the aerial detection of marijuana fields, are planned.

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http://news.com.com/Drone+aircraft+may+prowl+U.S.+skies/2100-11746_3-6055658.html
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:37 PM
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1. Is it 1984 yet? n/t
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:38 PM
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2. We've been there for quite a while (at least 5 years) n/t
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:39 PM
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3. "...domestic surveillance high about American cities." ???
Canada is looking better all the time.
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John Barrett Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:02 AM
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11. Will they take you?
You may qualify but there are age limits, and financial and or skill sets required. They aren't like the USA where we take anyone illegally.

Skills, money, health, age, it's all irrelevant here. The US taxpayers have to cover it, when it should be the business people that want them. Sorry, kick my butt for hijacking your thread on domestic surveillance.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:42 PM
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4. Anytime you see one
make sure you call the Air force, local newspaper, local radio stations, local and national tv news organizations, UFO investigation organizations and local police and report in detail your "UFO" sighting.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:49 PM
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7. They might be mistaken for Saddam's terraist drones. That would be
interesting...
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Lostnote06 Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:47 PM
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5. Them damned pot growers are next....
....can we borrow your states airspace for some exercises.....wait a second ,do they have to ask?...lol
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:48 PM
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6. NOOoooooooooooooooo!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:51 PM
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8. one can take pictures
from rc airplanes with digital cameras..i guess anyone can spy
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:52 PM
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9. Sheeesh.
So much for the black helicopter scenarios.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:02 AM
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10. My dad was a career USAF officer and worked for years on the
early (1970s) development and testing of these things. He must be rolling in his grave at the thought of them being used against Americans on American soil (he wasn't any RW nutjob).
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:16 AM
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24. My cousin retired as a Lt. Col. from the Air Force
and is now the chief engineer for the Predator program and he is a RW nut job.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 10:24 AM
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35. My dad was a Roosevelt Democrat, and with two daughters
who both wound up as medical professionals, he was very much a feminist. ROTC was the only way for him to get through college (poor family; paid his own way) and afterwards the USAF seemed like an exciting, promising career, and had great benefits, and besides that he had a special knack for being able to do way more than he was asked, no matter what the task. I got ahold of his performance reviews recently, and they all indicated his superiors thought he could go all the way to general. (Why he didn't is another sad story altogether)

There was not a drop of fascist authoritarianism in my dad!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:03 AM
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12. 'domestic surveillance high above American cities'
Sleep well America.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:16 AM
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13. Will they be armed with Hellfire Missiles
In case they think they see OBL's limo parked outside?
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:22 AM
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14.  Soon...they will be targeting missles at "domestic terrorists"...
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 12:23 AM by Webster Green
You know....potheads, animal rights activists, peace activists, environmentalists, gay rights activists, Quakers, legislators who speak truth to power......
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:34 AM
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15. If I catch one can I keep it?
:evilgrin:
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:39 AM
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18. So I have something to shoot at with my fully automatic machine gun!!
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 01:40 AM by file83
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:38 AM
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16. A FISA gift, from the skies...
how quaint. :sarcasm:
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:38 AM
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17. Drones over my property? GREAT TARGET PRACTICE!!!
I've been looking for challenge, this will be fun!
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:44 AM
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19. They already are.
I'm in NC, next to Gaston County & have seen one pass by. I swear!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:30 AM
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20. Big Brother Is Watching YOU
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:39 AM
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21. so THAT's what those damned things were at Holliman years ago--
and they used to get mad at me when I would ask about the ones that crashed (they had some really inventive stories about what they were and what they were doing)
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clu Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:56 AM
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22. I saw a drone in north Texas a year ago or so
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 02:56 AM by Clu
I'm in Richardson, a suburb of Dallas. It looked like a very high-flying kite that turned and changed direction over a commercial area. After changing direction it flew out of sight.

I wonder if it was city, county, state, or fed. managed.
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Vexatious Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:06 AM
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23. Makes me want to
scrawl something nasty and un-american on my roof.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 06:41 AM
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25. I have one thing to say
PULL!

Seriously, these things would be great target practice. And I've got a buddy of mine who is seriously into RC planes, and has been thinking that RC dogfights would be really cool. Well, now he's got a practice target.

Seriously people, start shooting these things out of the sky, claim innocence(but I thought it was a terrorist drone officer) but keep on shooting them down. Otherwise this is going to become the norm, each and every urban area with its own little fleet of drones, watching all the time.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:59 AM
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29. You're not going to shoot these UAV's down
They fly so high, you can't even hear them.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 09:18 AM
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30. Depends on the type of drone
Sure, the big ones will be flying at 18,000 ft or higher, but the little ones will be flying much lower. There have been a couple of instances in both Iraq and Afghanistan where these smaller, lower flying drones have been shot down with groundfire.

Or, like I said earlier, equip a RC plane with a small remote firing gun and go get into a dogfight:evilgrin:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 09:48 AM
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31. That would fun to watch
I can just see the operator, sitting in Virginia or Colorado saying, "Uh, Major? We've got incoming fire, here. What's the procedure?"
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 09:54 AM
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32. I've got a buddy of mine who is seriously into RC planes
He's got a couple that are six feet long or longer. It is amazing what they can do, he's even rigged one of them to be a bomber. The "bombs" he uses are paintball bombs, but still, he's become quite good. He really wants to dogfight them, and we've done dogfight runs with two of the planes. But if he thinks that he could get the jump on a drone and shoot it down, he would do it just for the sheer hell of it. Catch the drone just right, come from up above and behind, and he could shoot it down without the operator knowing what had hit the drone.

I'm going to have to pass this on to him, he's going to have so much fun:evilgrin:
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flamingpie2500 Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 06:50 AM
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26. They may want to use them to find whats left of the Bush supporters!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 07:37 AM
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27. Now we're paying attention
wait till the weaponized ones make their debut here in the states.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:44 PM
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36. Just wait 'til a malfunctioning drone hits a school...
Will they blame it on terrorists?

Assholes.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:20 AM
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28. There's a UAV flying right now on the SouthWest border.
I worked on the project to put it there.
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 10:12 AM
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33. I live a mile and a half north of the White House,
and I often wonder if the small propellor planes I hear are these drones. Only thing that normally is allowed to fly here is elpresidente and elmer fudd.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 10:16 AM
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34. I live in Houston and they fly over the city
a good bit... Since I am right off two major highways, I see a lot of what goes on....
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