Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Atrios on the necessity of HR 1606 - vs. the shutdown of DU and FR

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:22 PM
Original message
Atrios on the necessity of HR 1606 - vs. the shutdown of DU and FR
Edited on Fri Mar-17-06 01:38 PM by swag
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_12_atrios_archive.html#114261862094704348

Kos has more on the stupid goo-gooers who don't understand what they're dealing with. I'm struck by the number of people at Kos and elsewhere who just really do not understand the issues at play. It has nothing to do with how much advertising revenue Markos gets. Unless the internet is exempted from the legal definition of "public communication" or other similarly strong safeguards are put into place then sites like Democratic Underground and the Free Republic would have to shut down or reform as political committees. If, as reformers want, state party committees have to start putting a value on posting up a link to a federal canddiate sites then links to candidates or republications of campaign materials would have to be assigned a specific value (how I have no idea). It wouldn't just impact the ability of Markos to make money, it would make it literally impossible for him to run the site as he currently does. It wouldn't just impact "big bloggers" it would potentially impact everyone.

edited to clear up my misunderstanding, for which I now apologize

HR 4900 bad. HR 1606 good.

The first {bill} is called HR 1606, and it keeps the internet unregulated. This is what us bloggers want. We think the internet's pretty great, and we want to see proof that more participation in the political system is a bad thing before deciding to regulate speech online. The 'reformers' are fighting this bill tooth and nail.

The second bill is HR 4900. This is from the reform camp, and it could possibly put blogs like DailyKos and MyDD out of business. We simply can't afford to submit forms to the FEC on every candidate that we link to, for instance, and there's no guarantee that HR 4900 won't force us to do exactly that. It's also absurdly illogical. Newspapers and TV stations with clear partisan affiliations are considered media under the media exemption and can endorse candidates and talk politics without coming under campaign finance regulations, but not blogs.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:26 PM
Response to Original message
1. The comments are worth reading, as well
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:27 PM
Response to Original message
2. What's happening with this bill?
I pulled it up, and apparently the House voted it down in November. Is someone trying to resurrect it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Some updates, with some interesting opinions from all over the spectrum.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flyingfysh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:40 PM
Response to Original message
4. what if DU were hosted in Canada?
Would American law then apply?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:58 PM
Response to Original message
5. That's it in a nutshell
It's also absurdly illogical. Newspapers and TV stations with clear partisan affiliations are considered media under the media exemption and can endorse candidates and talk politics without coming under campaign finance regulations, but not blogs.

Blogs are MEDIA, period.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Blogs are MEDIA, period.
QFT
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 10:43 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC