Saddam and WMDs - hate to say it, but here's the smoking gun

[BushOut06]

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/694668.html

Hate to say this, but looks like we were duped...

You mean Saddam would actually lie about having WMDs?

:sarcasm: :sarcasm:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Poll_Blind]

1. But Saddam always denied he had chemical weapons.

Saddam always denied he had chemical weapons, at least after Gulf War 1.

Now is someone trying to convince us that Saddam claimed he had chemical weapons and so we, Honest Boy Scouts (TM) took him at his word and invaded?

This report stinks- no, reeks. Real intelligence is finding out if there really are chemical weapons, regardless of whether the dictator claims to have them...or not. Else what is military intelligence good for?

From the article:
Many in Israeli intelligence still believe Hussein had chemical weapons, which were transferred to Syria before the war. Israel discussed this with the Americans, but the latter no longer believe that Israeli evidence is conclusive on the matter.

Israel has its role but come on, the majority of the blame lies on Bush's narrow shoulders.


PB

[BushOut06]

5. I don't think it's quite that cut-and-dry

I think that Saddam wanted us (and Israel) to think he had such weapons, while publicly saying he didn't have them.

Of course, you're absolutely right - going to war with someone based solely on what you THINK they have is pretty damned stupid.

[xchrom]

2. since has advanced society depended on the propaganda of any

other nation -- friend or foe -- to decide whether or not they were a threat.

utter bullshit.


the u.s., israel, china, the brits -- all use their own methods of determing the military strength of any one else.

[Jamnt]

3. Gee..why doesn't this surprise me..

As for being duped....the US intelligence could have put out fucking neon signs saying Saddam was lying and asshat would have invaded anyway.

[Canuckistanian]

4. What nonsense

Everone KNOWS that even with enemies surrounding him and the US about to attack that he quickly sprang into action and buried all his WMD's in the sand. In Syria. Or something like that.

Wake up, America.

[The_Casual_Observer]

6. It's a bit of a rewrite of history. Saddam was pretty damn clear

about NOT having any weapons in the period leading up to jr's little invasion. It was all very inconvenient for jr's plans.

[Jackpine Radical]

7. I think the best proof that we knew there were no WMD lies in the fact

that we actually did invade him. The only sane reason (and Saddam was vicious but sane) for him to have had them in the first place was to repel invasion, to make it as costly as possible for the invading forces. The fact that we went in proves to me we knew there were no WMD. Otherwise we would not have risked it, and certainly would not have done it the way we did, moving up from Basra in a sort of "long march."

[never_get_over_it]

10. Thank you!!!!

[tjwash]

8. Three words: Downing Street Memo.

[never_get_over_it]

11. and THANK YOU!!!!

[JuniperLea]

9. Doesn't really matter

We sent people to look for WMD in Iraq. There were none there. Regardless of the lies told by Bush and Hussein, there were no WMD. There was no proof of WMD and there were plenty of inspectors, who got full cooperation from Hussein, who said there were no WMD. Hell, Colin Powell said there were no WMD. Hellx2, Bush admitted there were no WMD! He had to change his story as to the reason why we went to war because there were no WMD.




You know what I got from this chain of events?


There are no freaking WMD!

[Ksec]

12. Remember back in the first Iraq war...

we destroyed all his weapons, chemical and otherwise. We destroyed all his ability to manufacture and cut him off with sanctions.

They conveniently forgot about that. The war was about money making opportunities for the war machine and big oil. It was never about anything they used to justify the invasion.

A real war on terror would be done with tiny elite forces and good intelligence. Small elite forces arent real big money makers . Very little profit could be made with real terror fighting forces .

Conventional warfare with Big invasions using mega-tanks, futuristic bombers dropping million dollar bombs and such, create great money making oppotunity for the military industries. Thats why it was done the way it was.
Profit. Period.