For you oldsters out there--Did you ever think we would see Vietnam...

[European Socialist]

Watergate, and trickle down again. We are reliving all the bad things of the past 40 years, including the energy crisis. Thanks Dumya!! Did I mention the exploding national debt.

[MadMaddie]

1. I was 7 or 8 at the time...

What pivotal moment do you think ended the Nixon, Watergate events?


What do you think might break the back of the neo-con hold on America this time around?

[Fredda Weinberg]

13. True believers held fast until the smoking gun

I remember the moment when the flan deflated - it took the unanimous verdit of the Supremes to bring Nixon to heel and the first tapes to eliminate the last benefit of the doubt. That's why I'm not surprised that the quagmire in Iraq hasn't penetrated Bush's base.

But heck, what are we offering? Existentialist angst? Nihilism? Anarchy?

I'm no longer swayed by current events ... hope exists because we need it. Despair is not a viable alternative and activity is the antidote. I'm following my vision of what's possible and if I don't live to see it, I know I've contributed to the eventuality.

[European Socialist]

15. Back then there was a free press instead of info-tainment. There might

not even be a next time.

[MADem]

2. Next up to bat--Jerry Ford's W. I. N!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remember that?? The lame buttons and exhortations???? W-I-N--Whip Inflation Now!!!!

Only a matter of time....

[oneighty]

6. Slogans

Zero defects

Just say no

Works quite well.

180

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. but, but history does not repeat itself

actually there is a reason... care to look at what kids learn about US History in school these days? They are damn lucky if they get to Korea....

Those who refuse to learn from history are condemended to repeat it....

Santayana

We REFUSED as a nation to learn the lessons of Nam... and Tricky Dick... so we get the lesson AGAIN

[Lindsay]

16. Oh, I think a lot of us learned the lessons.

Problem is, BushCo learned some as well. They learned that owning the media was a good way of controlling the message that got out. And they learned to avoid having a draft.

[HereSince1628]

4. The only things that change over time are the costumes.

Humans are just as evil as ever.

[napi21]

5. When Shrub said he was invading Iraq, I was afraid of a

Vietnam type of conflict. People don't like to be told what to do, and for the US to think they could IMPOSE democracy on an entire Country was insane!

Watergate, I didn't expect though. I am not surprised, because the same arrogance & egotism aflicts Shrub that aflicted Nixon. The people who put the comparrison ad (Shrub/Nixon) did a terrific job. They both believed they had total power to do anything they wanted!

I can only hope today's mess has the same outcome!

[Elwood P Dowd]

7. Many from that era are back in charge

Rummy, Cheney, Wolfie, along with Kessinger and H.W. Bush behind the scenes and pulling strings.

[liberal N proud]

8. It took 5 presidents to screw up as much as just this one

That is an accomplishment.
:sarcasm:

Johnson 6 years
Nixon 6 years
Ford 2 Years ??
Reagan 8 years
Bush1 4 years

If I have my years correct that is accomplished in 5 years what it took 26 years to do for others.

[annabanana]

9. I know! Ain't it awful?

We thought we had put trouble to bed when the V-war ended. Who knew we'd have to roust our rumps again to save our kids from the same damn people... (not their kids - with one exception-, not their political heirs - but the SAME GODDAM PEOPLE that we fought against the first time)

I guess it's true;

The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance

[Arkansas Granny]

10. Let's Do The Time Warp Again.

History does repeat itself. (And, damn, I hate to realize that I'm an "oldster".)

:hippie:

:eyes:

[JitterbugPerfume]

11. cycles

everything old is new again

[Raydawg1234]

12. It's because half of the babyboomers have bought into the religion of

me first, the wellbeing of the nation second.



(p.s. check out my music at http://www.myspace.com/raykeys )

[RufusEarl]

14. Revisit

After vietnam and Nixon, i drooped out of politics. I always voted, i picked what i thought was the best candidate and voted. But the last five years have fired me up once again, i find myself working for candidates donating more money then i can really afford, and doing allot of research on topics that during the nineties i just didn't pay to much attention to like environmental problems.

But among the people i've known for years, i'm in the minority. Not many old hippies joining in on the picket line with me here in Texas. I'm sure allot of it has to do with no draft, their grandkids aren't being drafted so they're content with letting other take on the fight.

I've tried showing them the similarities of the Johnson/Nixon era, and pointing out the their grand kids may not get drafted "yet" but the planet and the economy thats being left is worth fighting for.

Not sure how bad it has to get before they take up arms "get involved" but i haven't noticed it yet not here anyway.

[catmother]

17. i'm 64 and i remember it all too well. i see iraq as another viet

nam. how many lives will be lost this time? and once we leave it will fall just like viet nam did. oh and how i loved watergate. i was unemployed at the time of the hearings and was glued to the tv. i'm hopefully awaiting another watergate. wonder what it will be called this time? and the energy crisis. i remember the long gas lines. we used so much gas just sitting on those lines only to be allowed to buy a few gallons. for a while people turned to compact cars, but then when the crisis was over, they went back to their gas guzzlers.

[RufusEarl]

25. Don't forget Earth Shoes, LOL

[catmother]

26. OMG. i never wore them. did you? but i loved the clothes of the

late 60s and early 70s -- bell bottom pants -- tops with fringes -- lots of beads and scarfs. and eyes made up like twiggy. i wore 3 pairs of fake eyelashes glued together and fake ones on the bottom too.

sometimes i say "they were the best of times -- they were the worst of times"

[RufusEarl]

27. Never wore eyeliner, LOL But yea i had Earth Shoes.

[zbdent]

18. Do you mean that the wealthy elite were able to

avoid going to war while they cheer on the grunts?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. Yes. My hopes died at My Lai and Kent State.

With the general applause given to the murderers by the "patriotic" public.

[FatDave]

20. That we're seeing trickle-down again so soon suprises me

It was a failure under Reagan/Bush and it's a failure under Jr.

But never underestimate the power of republican denial. I remember them claiming that the economic boom under Clinton was the result of Bush Sr. economic policies. And if that's not crazy enough, prior to Clinton they blamed Bush Sr.'s failing economy on Carter. The guy hadn't been in office in over 10 years, yet it was somehow his fault! The mind boggles.

[Bake]

21. I refuse to answer to the term "oldster."

But no, I didn't think we'd see them again in my lifetime! I thought those hard lessons were learned the first time.

Bake

[Misskittycat]

22. Hey, who you callin' an "oldster" - yes I remember them, and

no I really can't believe I'm watching this happening again. Each time I go to an anti-war or an anti-Bush event, I feel like I'm living in a bad dream.

[gordianot]

23. The day Reagan was elected I knew it was coming back.

The October surprise was a Rosetta stone of things to come, denial and cover up. It really started for me in Dealy Plaza, of course I did not remember Eisenhower's comments about the Military Industrial Complex. I do not remember Joe McCarthy. The plot to overthrow Roosevelt and the reaction of General Smedly Butler is an almost forgotten footnote in very obscure history.

It has been going on for more than 80 years. We are yet to see the culmination of our decline.

[oldlady]

24. Nope...

but, then I'm just naiive by nature. I also didn't think I'd live to see MLK's daughter try to take the mantle at her mother's death into a quick right turn. No, No, No-- the optimism that errupted after the Civil Rights Movement & Watergate...it's all gone now.

Recently, I was interviewed by some high school girl for a school paper & when she asked about fashions, I remembered that the only "logos" on tshirts were the Ecology-E symbol or a peace symbol. Remember the Ecology E? It got so we were all a little tired of hearing about the enviornment-- now, these assclowns are just beginning to hear of it. *sigh*

Two years ago I worried Kucinich was a little too left (though I campaigned for him)-- right now, I want nothing less than a resurrection of the IWW-- bring on the wobblies, please.--and Malcom X too.

[eridani]

29. Compared to me Kucinich is right wing

--but hey, I worked for him too.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

28. The reason why this shit keeps happening is because nothing

was done in the first place to put an end to it. Iran Contra should have blown up 100 times bigger than it actually did. Why?, is the question.