I posted this in another thread, but I wish someone here would read it

[AnnInLa]

((There is a concerted effort to paint the Dem party as divided and fighting amongst itself. And, you know the RW Noise Machine operates like this: Rove to RW blogs & RW talk radio. IMHO, we must be informed about this strategy, keep it in mind, and not let them manipulate us the way that I have recently on the DU board.)) Please go to

http://www.redstate.com/story/2006/2/16/10100/6135


and read the WHOLE POST. You will soon see the strategy and know why Rush made the comments he did today.




The Democrats' Coming Civil War
By: Blanton · Section: Democrats


There is a growing sense of restlessness on Capitol Hill and it is not the majority that has this sense. With Democrats potentially on the cusp of making a significant dent in the Republican majority, tensions that have been well below the surface are starting to spill out and may soon boil over into a Democrat civil war.

Various people on Capitol Hill tell me that the Democrats are struggling to keep their internal disputes from boiling over. They all lay the blame at Howard Dean and the Democrat leadership on Capitol Hill failing to get along. Right now, individuals loyal to Howard Dean are compiling dossiers on embattled Senate minority leader Harry Reid and House minority leader Nancy Pelosi. Couple these potential trouble spots with the pending William Jefferson plea bargain, Democrat netroots leader Kos' perceived selling out to the establishment through his failure to engage the DLC and failure to back Hackett in Ohio, and the failure of the minority to rally around one set of talking points and you have the a higher chance of a Democrat civil war than an Iraqi civil war.


Howard Dean has compiled a solid file on the corruption of Harry Reid. For years Reid has operated as the quintessential back room politician, trading favors and legislation for money and choice positions for his children at top firms with high salaries. Reid's ties to Jack Abramoff are more extensive than some of the Republicans allegedly tied to Abramoff. Dean himself said that any Democrat doing favors for Abramoff's clients would be a "big problem." He knew before he said it that Reid had done so.

Nancy Pelosi's husband is rumored to be living large off her name and power. Individuals out to bring down Pelosi, viewing her as a threat to potential Democrat gains, are, as I write, digging through records around Washington trying to pull a Harry Reid on Nancy Pelosi -- they'll try to tie her to legislation and lobbyists via her husband's connections and clients.

snip, but go read it

Dean wants to keep quiet on Pelosi and Reid to leverage his own position in the party. Democrats, including Pelosi and Reid, who blame Dean for a lack of fundraising prowess are out to get him. The competing dynamic had led to détente beween the parties. But House Democrats convinced that Pelosi is more of a liability than an asset are plotting to oust her on the information Dean has. Netroots, starting to bristle under what they perceive as growing ties between Kos and an out of touch establishment, want revenge for Alito. A mixture of netroots activists and establishment figures are waking up to the fact that the Republicans have the same dossier on the Democrats that Dean does and, should the Democrats keep beating the corruption drum, Republicans will begin beating the Democrats over the head with it. William Jeffer

[RagingInMiami]

1. If there is evidence that Reid is corrupt

Then lets bring it out and get rid of the bastard. I'm all of creating a new democratic party not bogged down in corporate cronyism even if it does divide the democratic party.

[papau]

2. Why post FreeRepublic lies on DU? - the civil war mantra has been the RW

party line for years as they try to make Dems unhappy based on zero proof of anything, and as they try to push the Dems to the right.

[AnnInLa]

5. I posted this because I just finished reading The Noise Machine

by David Brock. And, because Rush made the comments he did today, which have alread been posted here, and which show this is a concerted effort to divide us. I really think that if we know what they are coming at us with, we will be better prepared. They are framing the debate again. They are saying that we are divided, and that our Civil War is coming....just like we have been saying about the repukes. And, I have seen such division here about the Hackett/Kos thing. The next step in the noise machine is that the message (that the Dems are about to erupt in Civil War) will make the TV news talk shows. Watch for it.

((and their continual effort to paint Kos as centrist, siding with the Dem establishment shows how afraid they are of him and of other lefty bloggers. Am hoping we at DU don't fall into their trap.))

[hwmnbn]

3. this is RW propaganda .....

they'll always foment this type of BS.

For me, I AM disillusioned with the performance of our dem leadership. Other than Feingold, Conyers, Murtha and a few others, the opposition to the Repugs have been less enthusiastic than I expected.

I realize we are not in power to effect change, but our leaders most certainly can speak out more forcefully and more often and call the regime on it's criminal failures.

[Ksec]

4. Im not going to pretend

we dont have political problems. There isnt any doubt that our internal problems pale in comparison to the culture of corruption Republican problems.

Side by side ours are miniscule , theres are gargantuan.

We have a few policy differences and our leaders are quarreling. Big deal. Its politics.

They have done nothing but screw up for 6 years, half their party and both majority leaders are charged with crimes. They started a war with the wrong country, its cost over 100 billion this year alone. The deficit they caused is about to throw us into a Depression. They have been caught spying on Americans without a warrant. I could go on for hours.

We have a few problems. They have a freakin disaster on their hands.