Iran Claims 40,000 Suicide Bombers Ready to Attack

[mzmolly]

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/04/16/590/23819

The Sunday Times (UK) reports if the U.S. or Britain attack Iran's nuclear sites, they have an army of 40,000 suicide bombers ready to take revenge:

IRAN has formed battalions of suicide bombers to strike at British and American targets if the nation's nuclear sites are attacked. According to Iranian officials, 40,000 trained suicide bombers are ready for action.

The group is called "Special Unit of Martyr Seekers in the Revolutionary Guards."

Dr Hassan Abbasi, head of the Centre for Doctrinal Strategic Studies in the Revolutionary Guards, said in a speech that 29 western targets had been identified: "We are ready to attack American and British sensitive points if they attack Iran's nuclear facilities." He added that some of them were "quite close" to the Iranian border in Iraq.

And some think Bush was trying to minimize terrorism? My biggest fear is he's going to provoke Iran into an excuse to use a nuke.

* Provocation with Iran
* Terrorist attack on us city
* Iran is blamed
* Americans seething at the death of innocent fellow Americans
* BOOM!

:nuke:

[Warren Stupidity]

1. I have to say: seems like an overblown threat. nt.

[mzmolly]

7. Guess we'll find out?

:(

[spanone]

25. But even if they are doubling their estimates, that's a lot o boom.

[smoogatz]

42. Don't bet the farm.

They sent waves of schoolchildren to clear minefields during the Iran/Iraq war of the 80s. Martyrs all.

[mzmolly]

46. Holy caca!

:wow:

[fooj]

2. OMG.

What the f*ck are we going to do?

[mzmolly]

13. "Nuke em?"

Or impeach this chimp asap.

[TahitiNut]

21. That's now moved one step closer to a foreseeable neocon reaction.

Let's not forget WW2 in the Pacific. Okinawa. If there was one single factor that swayed Truman and the adminstration in nuking Hiroshima, it was the "Divine Wind" of the Japanese and the many thousands of Japanese civilians and military who chose death by jumping from the cliffs instead of surrender to the US military.

:scared:

[mzmolly]

23. *sigh*

:(

[The Stranger]

32. They're good at pure propaganda -- you have to give them that.

[BuyingThyme]

3. He's provoking everybody. He has made all Americans

targets.

[halobeam]

4. Thats exactly right.

[BayCityProgressive]

5. This is going to be horrible.

The world corporate empire is fallign apart and they are desperately swatting at everyone like a cornered rat. This will not end well. If anyone thinks for a minute that we won't be in Iran by years end, you are kidding yourself.

[halobeam]

29. agreed. But by year's end? IMO, it could be this week.

[EFerrari]

20. Yes. Precisely. n/t

[maxsolomon]

6. can we get them all to line up at the border?

ridiculous hyperbole in the finest ME tradition. :eyes:

[mzmolly]

8. Well, they don't need to with a fine "nukular" weapon.

eom

[maxsolomon]

11. exactly

why provoke a sociopath?

i mean *.

[mzmolly]

12. I am hopeful that Kerry urged Iran not to take his bait when he was visiting

recently? But, that may be an unreasonable "dream" on my part. Not sure what Kerry knew, or what he was at liberty to say.

[LSK]

9. and Amjerejowuer is in Central America this week

(yes that is the Colbert spelling ;))

[mzmolly]

14. LOL

Good to chuckle when you can these days. ;)

[CJCRANE]

10. Bush & Blair have approx 70% disapproval.

It's time for these nutcases to go.

[Strelnikov_]

15. Wow, thats a big ol peck of Homicide Bombers that be Hatin Our Freedoms

The money shot here is "Special Unit of Martyr Seekers in the Revolutionary Guards."

It is the 'State within a State' nature of Iran that really worries me. Their system of government is highly fractured, which probably does not bode well for a reasoned, rational command and control structure within the regular military. Couple that with the Revolutionary Guards, a quasi-military organization who seem to be virtually independent and very well may have an agenda very different from the political 'leadership', and we have all the makings for something that could rapidly spin out of control.


There is not a military solution that is less risky than the status-quo. We need to de-escalate, engage in dialog, and with positive steps forward, normalize relations.

[mzmolly]

17. Absolutely.

We need to de-escalate, engage in dialog, and with positive steps forward, normalize relations.

[EFerrari]

16. Somehow, I have a hard time believing that there are 40K people

ready to off themselves to gratify Junior.

This is propaganda.

[mzmolly]

18. It's not to gratify Jr. It's the only way Iran can have a "strong military"

currently. The President of Iran acknowledges this, and actually says he has 50k ready to "go."

:shrug:

[EFerrari]

19. Think about it. Iran has a strong military -- it doesn't need to rely

on fables.

I'm not sure who is pitching this bs, but it smells to heaven.

[mzmolly]

22. Iran has claimed as much.

And, I think it's pretty common knowledge.

Here's a wealth of info via google.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2006-26,GGGL:en&q=iran+suicide+bombers

That said I can certainly appreciate your skepticism.

[LSK]

24. a strong military that cannot really leave the middle east

This is how they would attack the United States mainland.

[EFerrari]

26. And why would they do such a thing? It's silly, when you think about it.

This is posturing with smoke and mirrors.

I feel for Iran right now because the Decider's cronies are looking for more defense contracts and you know what that means.

[mzmolly]

38. I don't think so. Do you have a valid assertion from anyone "in the know?"

http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level_English.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.323266981&par=0

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

27. Who said anything about the mainland?

There's plenty of American targets sitting in the Middle East.

[LSK]

28. Yes, but if your Iran in a war with America, an attack in the US rallys the country

Remember the Doolittle raid early in WW2???

[The Stranger]

35. Right -- there were four of these "suicide bombers" in the Consulate the U.S. seized.

[mzmolly]

37. Here they are.

http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level_English.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.323266981&par=0

Perhaps they haven't organized a response yet.

[The Stranger]

43. WHY DID YOU LINK TO A STORY SIX MONTHS OLD?

Rah/Aki) Jul-20-06 18:04

http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level_English.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.323266981&par=0

That was during Israel's invasion of Lebanon last Summer. That was six months ago.

[mzmolly]

44. BECAUSE THE ISSUE IS STILL "AN ISSUE."

WHY DID YOU TYPE IN ALL CAPS?!

I linked several items, the fact that the article is 6 months old does not change the point I made.

[Warren Stupidity]

39. Actually does Iran have a strong military?

Seems to me that they were about evenly matched with Iraq and Iraq's military was not exactly world class. So I guess it depends on the meaning of 'strong'.

I think Iran feels incredibly threatened by the huge army next door in Iraq, an army that is in fact world class, an army that comes complete with air superiority, naval support, and nuclear backup in case anything goes seriously wrong on the ground. Their fears are entirely justified.

So we know Ahmadinejad says all sorts of stuff: he appears to be put to use by the Iranian rulers for various purposes, one of which is to utter stuff like this. And we regularly fall apart here every time he says something intended to make us jump up and down. Witness the usual false bravado in this thread, the many 'bring 'em on' type statements.

This is all very real. Our lunatic president just went on national television and threatened Iran with war. The next day our army on their borders attacked their consulate and captured the Iranian staff. We are deploying patriot missiles to Baghdad, the only plausible purpose of which is to defend against Iranian attacks on that city. We are building up our naval forces in the region. Ahmadinejad is replying in kind, warning that Iran does have assets that are non-conventional and that it might indeed be able to retaliate in an asymmetric manner using suicide bombers. It is bluster, but the point of the bluster is that Iran faces a very real threat and is warning us to not push this any further.

[EFerrari]

48. It doesn't look good for the rebel alliance.

And imho, we better get ready to resist this best as we can because here it comes. :(

[The Stranger]

34. It would appear the "President of Iran" has claimed everything except that he shot J.R.

Come on.

[mzmolly]

36. See the google link I provided, and get back to me. He's not thought to be bluffing.

But, I'm glad your confident.

[The Stranger]

41. The story you linked is SIX MONTHS OLD and is in Lebanon.

That was during Israel's invasion of Lebanon LAST SUMMER.

[mzmolly]

45. THAT DOESN'T CHANGE MY POINT.

eom

[EFerrari]

49. What is your point? That 40K suicide bombers are on stand by ?

I'm sorry. That's so unbelievable that it enters the realm of silliness.

I think we can sleep okay tonight -- except for the worry of what The Decider will do next.

[mzmolly]

51. Well you have yet to demonstrate why that is unbelievable.

It's not in dispute.

Here are some links to back up the assertions made in the OP.

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3602

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/200597231227.asp

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Diplomacy/8265.htm

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Briefs/7842.htm

Iranian suicide bombers warn U.S., Britain against strike on Iranian nuclear facilities
By: Associated Press
Published: February 19, 2006

A gathering of Iranians who claim they are dedicated to becoming suicide bombers warned the United States and Britain on Saturday of attacks on coalition military bases in Iraq if there were a strike against Tehran's nuclear facilities.

"With more than 1,000 trained martyrdom-seekers, we are ready to attack the American and British sensitive points if they attack Iran's nuclear facilities," said Mohammad Ali Samadi, spokesman of Esteshadion (Martyrdom Seekers). "We have registered more than 52,000 people who willingly are ready to defend their country."

"If they strike, we have a lot of volunteers. Their (U.S. and British) sensitive places are quiet close to Iranian borders," Samadi said after a gathering of about 200 students for a seminar on the suicide-bombing tactics at Tehran's Khajeh Nasir University.

Samadi reviewed the history of the suicide bombing as a weapon, praising it as the most effective Palestinian tactic in their confrontation with Israel.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45148

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/06/wiran06.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/11/06/ixnewstop.html

And so on ....

Now, for links to your claim?

[mzmolly]

52. I wish it were "silly" here's more

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3109053,00.html

The Iranian Movement of Martyrdom Seekers says it has 40,000 "time bombs" ready to attack carry out suicide bombings in Israel and the United States.

"This is our choice and we have no fear," a masked woman told a reporter from Al-Arabiya. "We adhere to the legacy of our late leader, Imam Khomeini."

"There is no God but Allah!" shout a group of women, covered in hijabs, in unison.

"These young women have foresaken the temptations of life, and have chosen the hard way. Indeed, they have chosen martyrdom as a way of liberating Islamic lands," says the Al-Arabiya reporter.

They used to deny the operation existed, now they admit to it, and I don't know of anyone reputable who disputes the figures.

Iranian government officials have long denied media reports about a long suicide bomber recruitment program -- until now.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3118456,00.html

[NoPasaran]

30. That sure is a lot of Soylent Green n/t

[rpgamerd00d]

31. As Daffy Duck would say: "Yeah, yeah, but I can only do it ONCE!"

[Little Wing]

33. Didn't Monty Python do this?

Something like a crack suicide battalion

[EFerrari]

50. Yes, but in the skit it was 40K Welshman.

:rofl:

[lpbk2713]

40. Quick! ....Where's my duct tape and plastic sheeting.

I know I'll be safe because my gummint told me so.

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[mzmolly]

47. Grocary list:

duct tape
plastic sheeting
keg of beer

:beer: