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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:43 PM
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LAT op-ed: The bubble boy in the Oval Office "is treated by everybody around him as...a child."
Jonathan Chait
The bubble boy in the Oval Office
Try to mend Iraq all you want; just don't tell Bush the war was a mistake.
December 10, 2006

THERE IS a famous "Twilight Zone" episode about a little boy in a small town who has fantastical powers. Through the misuse of his powers, the little boy has ruined the lives of everybody in the town — for instance, teleporting them into a cornfield, or summoning a snowstorm that destroys their crops. Because anyone who thinks an unhappy thought will be banished, the adults around him can do nothing but cheerfully praise his decisions while they try to nudge him in a less destructive direction.

This episode kept popping into my head when I was reading about President Bush and the Baker-Hamilton commission. Bush is the president of the United States, which therefore gives him enormous power, but he is treated by everybody around him as if he were a child.

Consider a story in the latest Time magazine, recounting the efforts — before the commission was approved by Congress — of three supporters to enlist Condoleezza Rice to win the administration's approval for the panel. Here is how Time reports it:

"As the trio departed, a Rice aide asked one of her suitors not to inform anyone at the Pentagon that chairmen had been chosen and the study group was moving forward. If Rumsfeld was alerted to the study group's potential impact, the aide said, he would quickly tell Cheney, who could, with a few words, scuttle the whole thing. Rice got through to Bush the next day, arguing that the thing was going to happen anyway, so he might as well get on board. To his credit, the President agreed."

The article treats this exchange in a matter-of-fact way, but, what it suggests is completely horrifying. Rice apparently believed that Bush would simply follow the advice of whoever he spoke with. Therefore the one factor determining whether Bush would support the commission was whether Cheney or Rice managed to get to him first.

And now that the Baker-Hamilton report is out, the commissioners are carefully patronizing the commander in chief. As this newspaper reported, "Members of the commission said they were pleased that Bush gave them as much attention as he did, a full hour's worth. 'He could have scheduled us for 20 minutes plus 10 minutes for the cameras,' said former Atty. Gen. Edwin M. Meese III." Wow, a commission devoted hundreds or thousands of man-hours to addressing the central conundrum of U.S. foreign policy, and the president gave them a whole hour of his time!...

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-op-chait10dec10,0,4015264.column?coll=la-home-commentary
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:49 PM
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1. Bubble Boy?
Bwahahahaha....:rofl:

That's a keeper.

Who's going to be the one to pop the bubble and give junior a little taste of reality?
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 07:53 PM
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41. .
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:52 PM
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Holy COW - what a piece!
"Yes, Mr. President, it's good that you turned Iraq into a Hobbesian inferno of Al Qaeda terrorists and Islamist death squads. It's really, really good!"

Holy Cow.

But I must add, it pleases me GREATLY to see pieces like this being written, mainstream, now. Pleases me GREATLY. We're on our way, guys! It's actually happening! Now is no time to become complacent and think our work is done, though. It's only gotten started.

Keep your eyes on the prize!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:52 PM
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2. Ah, the Twilight Zone episode with Billy Mumy! Mumy was a bully..
in that episode too. Does remind me a little of chimpolini.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:42 PM
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12. That episode was the first thing I thought of when the ISG reported!
It's a perfect analogy
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:37 PM
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20. I forgot, how does that episode end?
Does it foretell our future?

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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:43 PM
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21. The movie version ended with a girl who takes an interest
in him and they disappear into the sunset with flowers springing up behind them. I can't remember how the tv version ended.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 04:14 PM
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27. The TV version ended like this:
Guy at his birthday party gets drunk and starts trying to convince everyone to kill Billy Mumy, and they are all too afraid. Billy Mumy turns him into a jack-in-the-box and sends him to the cornfield. Everyone tells him what a good thing he did, he then makes it snow, and his father complains that it will kill the corn, but then backs off and talks about what a good thing it is. Very much like Our Great Leader.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 03:13 AM
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48. The original story was "It's a Good Life" by Jerome Bixby
... and it did not end happily. One of the most depressing stories I ever read :scared:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 08:21 AM
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56. We read that story in High School literature
We had a course where we read science fiction from this book: http://www.amazon.com/Science-Fiction-Hall-Fame-One/dp/0765305372
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 10:05 AM
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67. So did I! I still have those volumes of S-F works!
:D
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 10:14 AM
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69. Born of Man and Woman
I can still remember my very animated and dramatic teacher reciting the lines about "drip green".
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 09:24 PM
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85. Oh yeah! I remember that one too!
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:45 PM
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93. Didja ever read "Microcosmic God"?
I think it's in the same series of Sci Fi books. Fantastic story.

South Park did a ripoff of it a few years ago.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 09:23 PM
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84. Damn good short story
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:43 AM
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50. The perfect metaphor for the administration that "makes its own reality"
and does so simply through the exercise of raw petulant power, rather than an offering of ideas.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 08:26 AM
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57. thanks for the recap
I think. :scared:

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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 09:02 AM
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61. The "New" Twilight Zone revisited the story 30 years later
with Bill Mumy again playing the part of the spoiled child.

The entire world has been wished away, except for the small town and a few dozen inhabitants, who still praise everything the boy does and live in constant fear that they too will be wished away.
Mumy's daughter, about 6 years old, finds that she has the same power he does. Several people conspire to get her to wish Mumy away.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 12:14 PM
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77. And so we have a new name for Bush... Billy Mumy.
He likes to give people nicknames so much, I think Billy Mumy fits him perfectly.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 12:27 PM
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78. I think Bill Mumy would take that as an insult
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 12:13 AM
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88. Who cares what Bill Mumy thinks?
LOL!
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 06:02 AM
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95. ZOT! ;-)
(RimJob - er - Bush - er - Bill Mumy wishes Mrs Chybil away)
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 02:27 PM
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81. Are you suggesting the cure for the Bush insanity is to elect Jenna president?
What a horrid, horrid thought. And she's the nice one!
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:41 PM
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91. Wait... Jenna's not the "nice" one! (?)
I thought her sister "Not-Jenna" was the nice one!

This is confusing!

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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:45 PM
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92. I just pictured a jack-in-the-box with the face of Donald Rumsfeld!
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 09:55 AM
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66. They actually did a sequel to it
The sequel was set a few decades later, "It's Still a Good Life". Bill's character has become a father (I shudder to think of the back story of -that-). If this does foretell our future, watch out for the twins...
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:52 PM
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3. He IS a child
so of course he is treated that way. The adjective that always pops into my head when I am forced to think about him is "infantile."
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:53 PM
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4. Well, it's not as bad as those lefty bloggers
Edited on Sun Dec-10-06 12:54 PM by lolly
Isn't Chiat one of those who threw a tizzy fit because some people wrote some not-nice comments on a left-leaning blog somewhere--maybe Atrios? IIRC, he was s-o-o-o dismissive of those horrible uncivilized people who say mean things about Bush and his enablers (including a few supposedly "liberal" pundits like himself).

Because, as we all know, when a sociopathic child is destroying the country and all our civil rights, what's most important is that we all act civil about it.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:55 PM
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5. Those who pull the strings have saddled the fate of our Republic, maybe the world and
civilization itself to one man and has dream, a man "treated by everyone around him as..a child." And the past three Congresses have figuratively jumped through their collective assholes to assuage every whim of this seemingly petulant "child." Is it time to turn the keys over to the adults? :shrug:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:59 PM
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6. jr IS a child.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:01 PM
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7. The BubbleBoy holds the USA Hostage with his extreme IGNORANCE/STUBBORNESS
The wreckage strewn about the country side is mounting...and Bush/GOP is to Blame...they have fucked up big time...

Its time to let go this dufus of a dude...
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:10 PM
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8. excellent, thanks (eom)
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:22 PM
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9. The Hallmark of a Lazy Boss: Whoever talks to him first, wins.
Y'all have seen it a million times in real life.

Why are we puzzled when Mister MBA Prezzydent does it?
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 08:12 AM
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55. like Mr. Carlson of "WKRP"
they both have dragonlady mothers, too
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:29 PM
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10. I never thought this would happen to our country.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:41 PM
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11. Bush has to go. It's a matter of national security.
He is obviously mentally ill, or at least emotionally disturbed, and is clearly incapable of leading the nation. I don't know if it will be impeachment, a Nixonian resignation, or some other form of exit, but it's a fact: Bush must go.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:45 PM
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13. FTSOON...he gatta go...for the sake of our Nation, the dude must be removed soon.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:26 PM
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35. It's not a matter of removing booooosh alone
Far more important is the issue of disconnecting him from his power source.

I've always believed there was something just not right about the whole Cheney thing, and I think we've all seen Cheney as a VP with far, far, far too much power in this administration. Cheney's the rogue, the loose cannon, the evil fucking bastard with feet in both camps. He was, I suspect, supposed to be the bridge between the 41 regime and the 43+ regime, perhaps to shoe-horn the real heir -- Jeb -- in as 44. But Cheney proved to powerful even for the senior booshies and he used junior's madness for his own ends.

Who, after all, is profiting handsomely from the continuation of the war? Who is least likely to want it to end? Who doesn't give a flying fuck about the rest of the world, and certainly not about us/U.S.??

Cheney is the one who has to go. And the nice thing about that is it won't be seen as nearly the "constitutional crisis" impeachment of a sitting president would be. Once Cheney is gone, boooooosh himself, and his oedipal madness, will be much easier to manipulate/control.

Just my 2 centavos.

TG

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 10:18 PM
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43. Impeach Cheney first. nt
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:51 PM
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40. The technical term is "personality disordered."
"He is obviously mentally ill, or at least emotionally disturbed"
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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:45 AM
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51. I believe that,
to be technically correct, that would be several personality disorders.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 08:51 AM
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60. Personality Disorder NOS with antisocial and narcissistic features.
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 11:27 AM
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73. Narcissistic Personality Disorder,
Bipolar Disorder, Borderline Personality Disorder, Antisocial Personality Disorder, Oppositional Defiant Disorder, Low to borderline IQ, Alcoholism--they ALL fit.

The people who handed the power to this sick puppy ought to be brought up on charges themselves for endangering the world.

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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:31 AM
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90. Thanks for the detail
But what about megalomania? And sadistic tendencies? Are they additional to or a part of the above?

It's just that I like to know, in professional terms, exactly what the guy with the Big Red Button is handicapped with.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:45 PM
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14. Bush doesn't care how history will treat his presidency
Remember when someone asked him about his legacy and his response was "I'll be dead". I guess an adult child might say such a thing.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:51 PM
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15. Condi Rice's small redemption song.....
Rice got through to Bush the next day, arguing that the thing was going to happen anyway, so he might as well get on board. .... Therefore the one factor determining whether Bush would support the commission was whether Cheney or Rice managed to get to him first.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:59 PM
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16. The "Bubble Boy in the White House" ?
Perfect!
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:03 PM
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17. The episode was called "It's a Good LIfe" (bubble boy title confuses metaphors)
http://imdb.com/title/tt0734580/
I had watched it in recent years and always thought it a perfect metaphor for W (before that for other dictatorships)
It's the abject fear that really fascinates us, more than the little boy who merely needs validation like any little boy.
The theme was used in Star Trek as well in Charlie X - and a good spanking as well as a deus ex machina intervention cleared that one up.
The lesson in all these morality plays is the same: little boys, even those with powerful toys need adult supervision.
Very little spanking would be needed to send this little guy from the White House running to Crawford. he was about to do just that in 2001, after losing senate, when family friend Osama gave him some new toys to play (fear)
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:15 PM
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18. Remember in the sequel the Mumy character got his comeuppance from his daughter.
I don't think Jenna and not-Jenna have it in them, though.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 08:11 AM
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54. There was a sequel? Not of TZ!
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 11:44 AM
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76. There really was a sequel
Bill Mumy and Cloris Leachman reprised their roles. Mumy's real life daughter played his character's daughter who had inherited his powers.
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 03:48 PM
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82. Yup . . .
I was a few minutes into it, and it took a shot of a framed picture from the original show before I realized that Bill Mumy was reprising his role from the original.

Very well done.

We ARE living in the Twilight Zone, aren't we?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:26 PM
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19. The corporatemediawhores have
themselves to thank for bubblebrat. Without them there would be no bushites. The American corporatemedia are the worst villians on the Planet. Especially those idiots who endorsed the bubblebrat in 2004.

And fauxsnews is in existence to promote the lies of bubblebrat and those who mollycoddle him. Hell, they even snatched a fauxsnews liar to be the press secretary. What a tragic farce.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 10:47 AM
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70. The L.A. Times knew all of this before it was "safe" to pile on
Back before the invasion of Iraq, they told their reporters not to focus on the negatives.

Now, for some reason, it's "safe" to pile on, so NOW they're allowed to point out the emperor's nudity.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:49 PM
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22. The similarities between Chimpy and Kim Jong Il just keep cropping up.
How can anyone not see it? :shrug:

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:53 PM
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25. They'll have an easier time thinking
Nixon... and they are there too
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:52 PM
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23. i would normally say that the disintegration of a human mind is a tragic...
empathy filled moment in time; but in g.w. bush's case i say he should reap what he has sown, being wannabe boy king/caesar/tyrant to the world is more complex than ordering pretzels from room service, let bush pay the price for failing to understand the human condition
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:53 PM
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24. This is scary at many levels
but more parallels to Nixon
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 04:08 PM
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26. WHERE is the Time article?
I've been looking all over for it and can't find it.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 10:06 AM
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68. Here you go
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 04:14 PM
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28. So we have a temper tantrum throwing three year old in the WH?
Why did it take so long for this realization to come about?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 04:22 PM
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29. Good take on the decider that didn't, and chilling in its implications.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 04:26 PM
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30. This TZ episode has been running through my mind for quite awhile...
From Oct. 17, 2006: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2418128&mesg_id=2418511

Keith & Jonathan's conversation reminded me of a Twilight Zone episode...

The small town of Peaksville, Ohio, lives in fear. You see a monster inhabits the town and, well, this particular monster doesn't care much for the machines of the modern age (except for airplanes) or contact with the outside world through electricity and what have you, so he's wiped them out...and in effect has cut off Peaksville, Ohio, from the rest of the world (or perhaps has eliminated the rest of the world...no one is certain). This particular monster can read your very thoughts, can feel your very emotions, can eliminate you in the blink of an eye...send you out in the cornfield along with all the other hideous monstrosities he has created. So you have to be wary how you act, how you think, how you look, even how you feel if you encounter said monster or else.

Who is our monster, you ask? Why he's Anthony Fremont...a 6 year old boy with an innocent baby face and the powers to change the world around him at his very will. He hates anyone who doesn't like him or thinks bad thoughts or doesn't like what he likes and can act against him or her as he pleases. A frightening power to be in the hands of someone so young but don't let him hear you think that.

(Edited to add link)


We're living in Peaksville, Ohio, in the Twilight Zone under the dictatorship of a very spoiled rich brat who feels entitled to have everything go his way.

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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 04:27 PM
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31. I saw that today
hilarious.

Well, it would be hilarious if it weren't so true. Unfortunately these times are so grave and damning the best thing we can do for ourselves(besides work to change it) is laugh it off...
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 04:32 PM
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32. I would never have thought it would be so hard to remove a criminally insane "president." n/t
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 04:52 PM
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33. Maybe the Founders thought it wouldn't happen.
Or is there a provision in the Constitution besides impeachment for a case of mental disability?

If so, does it mention what to do with the people who voted for the Defective One?
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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:53 AM
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52. I would have thought that
even the Pugs in Congress would have enough integrity to clean up their own mess. But no; too busy feathering their own nests and ignoring the needs of the citizens who pay their salaries.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 01:14 PM
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80. a criminally insane "president."? - I think you nailed it!!!!!!!!!!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:00 PM
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34. Jonathan Chait nailed the situation. (nt)
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:34 PM
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36. It's a real good war, George; real good. Now wish it into the cornfield.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:44 PM
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37. Wow!
:wow:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:12 PM
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38. Weekly Standard Executive Editor Fred Barnes, the "court stenographer" of the Bush administration
Chait just totally f'ing emasculated Fred Barnes. So I wrote to Barnes:


In the Los Angeles Times op ed today, Jonathan Chait just totally emasculated you. Read this line:

"Weekly Standard Executive Editor Fred Barnes, the "court stenographer" of the Bush administration"

He just stated that your content is nothing but a reproduction of the Bush Administration dogma. He is saying that you don't represent independent journalism, and that you don't serve in the proud tradition as envisiaged by the First Amendment. That sounds like something Michael Moore would have said, but it is now becoming common wisdom. I would be humiliated if I were you.

Joe Dirt

And he called President Bush the "bubble boy": http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-op-chait10dec10,0,4015264.column?coll=la-home-commentary
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:17 PM
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39. And what does this remind you of?:
" "______" got through to "______" the next day, arguing that the thing was going to happen anyway, so he might as well get on board."

That's how the public is treated by politicians and media and each other (here) when Alito, Roberts on SCOTUS, Gates as SecDef, etc. are "going to happen anyway, so we might as well get on board."
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 08:53 PM
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42. Poppity-pop-pop-pop!
You just know his fragile self image bubble will eventually burst under the weight of reality.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 10:30 PM
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44. K&R
:kick:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 10:47 PM
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45. "And for God's sake don't let Cheney hear about this"
Wasn't that the name of an article or blog post lately about this same situation?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 10:55 PM
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46. Holy cow, did you see this?
And now that the Baker-Hamilton report is out, the commissioners are carefully patronizing the commander in chief. As this newspaper reported, "Members of the commission said they were pleased that Bush gave them as much attention as he did, a full hour's worth. 'He could have scheduled us for 20 minutes plus 10 minutes for the cameras,' said former Atty. Gen. Edwin M. Meese III." Wow, a commission devoted hundreds or thousands of man-hours to addressing the central conundrum of U.S. foreign policy, and the president gave them a whole hour of his time!


From the article, bolding mine.
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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 08:37 AM
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59. Yes. And after giving them a WHOLE HOUR ...
... he didn't ask one question. Not one.

According to a post- * interview with Lee Hamilton.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 03:33 AM
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89. He couldn't formulate a question. His brain had been asleep
for 59 minutes.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 02:41 AM
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47. W should be swept up with a broom and tossed in the trash
He never should have been our president.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 03:18 AM
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49. Kick--I wanna keep this up
This is scary, compelling shit. When this kind of stuff is in corpmedia...
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 07:59 AM
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53. If a certain individual in the oval office needs to be in a rubber room,
how is he removed from office? Seriously. I had a plot in my head for a novel once and it centered around the leader of the free world going off his rocker. Guess that's nonfiction now.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 08:29 AM
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58. this is just plain fucking scary!
<snip>

Indeed, everybody seems to understand that if you want to help amend the disaster in Iraq, the No. 1 rule is that you can't acknowledge it's a disaster in Bush's presence. Weekly Standard Executive Editor Fred Barnes, the court stenographer of the Bush administration, recently reported that this was a key factor in the hiring of Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

Now, I would bet every dollar I own that Gates thinks the war was a mistake. But you can't say that to Bush. "Before hiring him," Barnes wrote, "Bush had to make sure Gates didn't think America's intervention in Iraq was a mistake."

Yes, Mr. President, it's good that you turned Iraq into a Hobbesian inferno of Al Qaeda terrorists and Islamist death squads. It's really, really good!

:scared:
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AbbyR Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 09:04 AM
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62. We're living a fantasy story
I knew Bush was too bad to be true.
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keroro gunsou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 09:14 AM
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63. and this is a shock...
Edited on Mon Dec-11-06 09:17 AM by pc1971
how?

i knew that president bush wasn't alltogether the best and the brightest that they could have nominated back in 2000, and his recent antics have lead me to believe him to be in a real state of both arrested development and denial, but this is a shock, a shock i tell you.... it's so hard to convey sarcasm in print form, and the emote-icon here is insufficient.

oh well, could be worse, cheney could be running the show in the open, instead of his man behind the curtain, i mean undisclosed location, act....

like my grandmother might say, "what a yutz."

(edited for quote)

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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 12:33 PM
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96. I had the same feeling in 2000 also.
I remember thinking, "This is the best presidential candidate the Republicans can come up with? That's not saying much for your party!!" I couldn't believe they dumped McCain for this moron.
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ArmchairMeme Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 09:41 AM
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64. What can be done?
Reading this I was reminded that I just read a few weeks ago that Cheney made a statement that having a Democratic congress would not stop a strike on Iran. This would, in my opinion, be making the entire situation worse. Many writers have given their opninions about that as well. How sane can Cheney be to suggest that at this point in time. Perhaps Cheney should also be viewed at being out of touch with reality. His trip to Saudi Arabia at this time is also an interesting connection. Of course, he has a great deal to gain monetarily from disrupting the oil supply as well as destruction/reconstruction in Iraq for profit of Halliburton, etc.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 09:52 AM
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65. "That's a real good thing ya done, Georgie..."
Killin all them eye-rackys and US boys

Packin' the court

Growin' the debt

Makin' torture OK


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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 10:56 AM
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71. Cheney and Rumsfeld are best friends...
they even have houses built close to each other, I believe that they were in the Nixon admin together and they have been running things all along. I also believe that Poppy bush is afraid of the son because he is afraid of setting him off...
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 11:04 AM
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72. Interesting. Remember that a younger, drunk G.W. asked Poppy...
if he wanted to go mano to mano with him. Bush was a "mean" drunk.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 11:30 AM
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74. The only special powers that the lil chimp has...
is that Mommy and Poppy have lots of money and "friends" in very high places. The money is probably pretty safe, but one senses that the "friends" are disappearing.
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 11:38 AM
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75. I've been thinking of Citizen Kane and the neocons...
Kane's opponent for governor threatens scandal if he doesn't drop out of the race. Kane refuses and the opponent says, "I'm going to have to teach you a lesson, Mr. Kane. You're going to need a lot of lessons."

Bush is no less the arrogant, patrician heir who answers to no one.

Even visiting Vietnam, he and the neocons came out with the wrong conclusions.

They're going to need a lot of lessons, I guess, before this is over.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 12:50 PM
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79. But Billy Mumy didn't get his powers
from a spineless jellyfish of a Congress. There was no pro-evil majority in that small town.

(can't take credit for this - it was my SO's comment when he read the article)
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:25 PM
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83. What a FABULOUS analogy. * is JUST like that Twilight Zone
little boy.

:bounce:
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 11:38 PM
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86. Somebody here made the EXACT same comparison
to that Twilight Zone episode quite some time ago. I wish I could find the post.

"That's a real good thing that Georgie did!"
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Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 12:12 AM
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87. I've been making the comparison to that TZ episode for years
It's nice to see someone else do it
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:57 PM
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94. Brilliant analogy, and completely accurate.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 08:12 PM
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97. Great article.
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