WTF? I did everything one person could possibly do? It didn't

[lonestarnot]

work. Guess I just don't count any more! Am I going to give up?

HELL NO!

[vanboggie]

1. I'm with you lonestarnot!

I tried to give up after the 2004 Coup II, but I'll fight these bastards till they are gone or I die, whichever comes first.

[lonestarnot]

3. Never damn surrender!

[gizmo1979]

2. Winners never quit and quitters

never win.We've lost every important vote for as long as I can remember.But when someone starts bitching about Bush and I ask what did you do to stop him?At least we'll know that we tried.

[lonestarnot]

4. Well I have no regrets with my actions!

[wiggs]

5. Sports analogy

A team that continually loses doesn't give up...but it must first understand its own strengths and weakness and then do something about it. To date, we don't really know why we lose every battle. We need to start there, understand why, before we can determine what our next strategy is. Without the why, we go nowhere or we go in a wrong direction.

One of the reasons we lose is continued misplaced expectation that the opposition party is going to be effective, successful, ruthless, united, creative, or interested. We're placing hope in a place where it is no longer warranted. We are expecting too much. Maybe it can eventually become those things, but not soon.

We have to fight, but fight smarter and stop sending players out onto the field who relate more to the other side than their own team. No giving up...but hopefully more people see what the problem is and we can begin to fight the right battles. And stop fumbling.

[Octafish]

6. We shall fight them on the beaches.

And every place else.

The hell with these fascist turdballs and all who support them.

I'm with you, lonestarnot.

Never give in.

Never give up.