Fox News Makes Up New ‘Minority Speaker’ Position For Defeated Conservatives

[Sapphire Blue]

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/08/hastert-minority-speaker/

[mattclearing]

1. Hilarious.

Have any of them even read the Constitution?

[The Backlash Cometh]

30. This is why the British laugh at us. We have no sense of history,

no sense of culture. No common agreement on the fundamental things that identify us as a nation of people. And our language? It's like a petri dish of evolving amoebas the way we tend to verb every noun, and noun every verb.

[Canuckistanian]

34. The United States of Amnesia, as Gore Vidal says n/t

[Snotcicles]

80. Minority Speaker? wouldn't that be a Tweeter? n/t

[asthmaticeog]

43. Conjugate the verbs "to verb" and "to noun," please.

:evilgrin:

[The Backlash Cometh]

53. Didn't slip that one by you, eh?

:-)

[asthmaticeog]

54. It was there, *someone* had to take it.

:patriot:

[melody]

85. Oh, a lot of us got it, but we read it in context with your other remarks

You're just attempting to hide contempt behind humor.

[tabasco]

51. The British laugh at us?

Fuck 'em. We kicked their asses pretty good.

Are we supposed to fall down in praise at the great British culture? LMAO. People who worship asswipes like Prince Charles and Prince Henry. Great culture there. Monarchy. Woohoo.

And the great British sense of history? LMAO. At least the USA has only been bogged down in Iraq once. This is at least the second time for the British.

[The Backlash Cometh]

55. Do yourself a favor.

Find yourself a strong british newsgroup on Usenet. No moderators. And match wits with them. Play by their rules. Or better yet, outwit them if you can. It is an incredible rush and also will reveal a thing or two about how you view yourself as an American compared to how others may see you.

[melody]

84. perfect evidence, your honor

That's like going to a Canadian newsgroup and throwing about US southern sayings and then damning them as stupid because they don't understand them.

[The Backlash Cometh]

96. Don't waste your time arguing with me.

I've already been to the big show and enjoyed the sights. Why don't you go, and tell me what you find.

[melody]

99. I've been to the big show, ducks. I write the big shows. ;-)

You're just having somebody kick your tires, while you were trying to kick ours,
and your comic appetite is too low-brow to discern it. LOL!

I don't like arrogant people. I view you as arrogant. Welcome to my ignore list.
I'll hang with the ignurnt people with kinder hearts.

[The Backlash Cometh]

101. I'm not arrogant. But if you really have been around british people,

then you wouldn't have taken offense to anything I said. This is just a small taste of what you'll find on their newsgroups That's the point. It steels you and you learn not to feel offended easily.

[The Doctor.]

104. Yer off-kilter there luv.

So in a display of arrogance you put someone on 'ignore' for their arrogance. This after taking exception to a post not directed at you?

Well then, I suppose I should be ignored too.

Come to.

[melody]

105. It's not arrogant to "ignore" someone - it's just personal preference

I'm under no obligation to read someone's rantings that verge on bigotry.

Feel free to "ignore" me. I don't view that as arrogant in the least.
I haven't read enough of your posts to know one way or the other.

[The Doctor.]

106. Well... I just find it odd that you have to

carve the offensive proteins out of a strand of hair to find 'arrogance'.

I never apply so fine a glass unless invited.

[melody]

107. The splitting of a hair is in the follicle of the observer

I don't pay me no never mind to thems that annoy me. Y'all are welcome to do otherwise.

If I annoy you, I reckon y'all can feel free to "ignore" me. No hard feelings.

[The Doctor.]

108. I Likes my follicles where I see's 'em....

And that you resort to such vernacular stands 'em on deliberate ends.

Fun -n- g'nite.

[ElboRuum]

62. The British Laugh At Us The Same Way We Laugh At Them

It's called measuring another culture by your own values. Oh yes, veeeeeery cosmopolitan, indeed.

This is always a very specious angle to take.

As far as having no sense of history or culture, please explain to me how a country based in (attempted) egalitarianism, which is composed nearly entirely of immigrants drawing on the near infinite diversity of their constituent cultures and is only about 230 years old measured from its declaration of independence is in any way similar to a nation with greater than a thousand years of history and descends from and continues to foment a classism through its aristocracy?

Our nation is unique and valuable in that we prove that we can have a society without homogeneity.

Our language should be better observed as American, rather than English. It is as evolving as our society is. It's a language all its own, and should be treated as such. So, my answer to a Brit who claims that we are two nations separated by a common language, my answer would be, "What common language are you referring to? And yes, I ended a sentence with a preposition, and started another one with a conjunction. Most of us think that's just dandy. Do you require more proof? Another thing... why do you bother having a 'z' in your alphabet... if you never use it? Moving on..."

The British can say what they want and laugh at what they want. They can view us as ignorant provincials if they want. They, and the rest of Europe, have only themselves to thank for creating the provincialist traditions which have become inculcated into our culture (at least to hear them speak of it). Their bemusement becomes a bit hollow when it becomes clear that their own actions in this regard are far from noble.

[The Backlash Cometh]

63. That's the other reason why the british laugh at us.

Attempts at satire, sarcasm, irony, exaggeration or self-deprecating humor are just wasted on us. Unless we're given a hint, like that little symbol that comes up on the corner of the t.v. whenever I'm watching the Jon Stewart Show on Comedy Central.

[ElboRuum]

64. Where'd you get that from?

Speak for yourself. I have no problem with my sense of humor. Neither does anyone else I've had the occasion to meet of late.

Never mistake it. People who laugh at the culture (or lack thereof, I suppose) of another people are just insecure about their own.

Just out of curiosity, how is laughing at Americans self-deprecating? Sounds like it's just plain ol' deprecating to me.

[The Backlash Cometh]

66. Aaaarrrgh!

Read between the lines. What I wrote was one cup satire, three tablespoons exaggeration, leveled, and a dash of self-deprecating humor.

[ElboRuum]

71. Oh is THAT what you were going for...

no sense of culture. No common agreement on the fundamental things that identify us as a nation of people. And our language? It's like a petri dish of evolving amoebas the way we tend to verb every noun, and noun every verb.

About the culture and common agreement... looks like you didn't use quite enough exaggeration. You are too close to reality. Satire and exaggeration are best served when they are just a leeeeeeeeeetle farther apart. May I suggest cutting the satire by a quarter cup and increasing the exaggeration to four or five tablespoons (heaping)? Without tonal cues inherent in spoken speech, it can be too subtle. Also, the dash of self-deprecation should probably be increased to a full teaspoon.

"to verb every noun, and noun every verb." Very cute. Clever, even.

Relax, I got what you were going for. I was just deadpanning you waiting to see if you 'went critical'.
Like I said, my sense of humor is fine. It's also just a little sadistic. Sorry.

:evilgrin:

[The Backlash Cometh]

81. Sadistic is good, as long as the only weapons used is humor, served

dry.

[melody]

86. But it's not merely what you were going for ...

You were using the defense of humor to mask your obvious attempt to draw out Americans
into a "battle of wits" and demean them. I'm reminded of Colonists who made fun of Native Americans,
calling their language "gibberish" because they couldn't understand it.

We're not the same culture. Shall we go use insider LA wit on Scots and then laugh at them for
not "getting the jokes"?

[The Backlash Cometh]

88. Melody, I'm not saying they're better.

Not in the way you're implying. But the ones I encountered on the net did tend to be pedantic and our bantering led to delicious results. In reality, we hated each other, and loved every minute of it. Oh, how I miss it. sigh.

[melody]

91. Then why speak Swahili in Germany and laugh at the funny Germans that don't understand?

Americans cut through the crap and just speak their minds. It's not "better" or "worse", just
"different".

[The Backlash Cometh]

95. You won't find a more straight-shooter than me, on these boards.

But I love tickling that corner of the lobe that is just outside the comfort zone. To think outside the box, it helps stepping out of your comfortable surroundings.

[melody]

97. If you were doing it in good humor, I'd agree

You're just dissing your own people to curry favor with the bullies. As I
said, I thought the OP was funny. I get your point, I understand your origami
English, I just think it's mean-spirited.

I don't think THAT's funnier any more than I do the people who make fun of "hayseed"
accents and laugh at "rednecks" when they don't understand the culture. I have a
problem with arrogance and cruelty. My .02.

[The Backlash Cometh]

98. I feel so bad for you.

I think Americans are big enough to take the hit. LOL!

[melody]

100. Oh, that's more like it -- be mean in an honest way

At least your arrogance is obvious that way.

Welcome to my ignore list, as I've said the last time.

[The Backlash Cometh]

102. You do what you need to do, Melody.

[melody]

79. The OP was funny -- I think this is just your fallback position ;-) n/t

[The Backlash Cometh]

82. sigh.

Oh, please. Any british pedant, as british tend to be, would have picked up the twist in "verb every noun, and noun every verb." Who really talks that way? As one astute poster pointed out, it just takes a phrase, and sometimes, just a word misspelled for a little punnery.

[melody]

83. It's another culture with another type of semantics

They aren't the "better" one, just a different one. To judge our culture by theirs
is as rude and presumptuous as judging Canadians by American standards. Keep your
smug sighs ... I think it was a disingenuous attempt to slam us, hidden behind
"satire".

[The Backlash Cometh]

87. Melody,

I AM an American, and never learned more of what I was capable of becoming, until I learned from other cultures.

One thing you learn about the british, if you really felt secure about yourself and/or your culture, you wouldn't easily take offense. Maybe we Americans are too trigger happy, in more than one way?

[melody]

90. backlash, yeah, I got you're a Yank ;-)

Believe me. LOL

But if you had any real understanding of actual American culture, you wouldn't have to find sustenance in Brit speak with which you can offend your own people.

BTW, I'm English, Scots and Irish, so I have a great deal of affection for the people and their languages -- and one of those (as valid as any other) is American English. (hint, hint)

[melody]

78. I guess all the great American satire, sarcasm, irony and et al is canceled out, hm?

Must be the reason that Mark Twain is still one of the most quoted humorists.

Yeah, we're just a bunch of bigoted, backward yokels.

Oh, and lest you miss the point, being an ignorant American ... :sarcasm:

We sure have a lot of "The Brits Hate You" posts hopping today. I wonder why. Hmmm ...

:sarcasm:

BTW, if you're going to do sarcasm, do it better next time.

[The Backlash Cometh]

89. Oh, how they would laugh.

[melody]

92. Oh, how you would laugh at yourself if YOU understood

Listen, if you need to laugh and mock your own people, go for it. It just shows an
ignorance of context and culture.

[The Backlash Cometh]

93. I don't have a problem with self-deprecating humor.

I think only a very insecure person is incapable of laughing at themselves. That's why I love the satire of Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. Jon takes all kinds of jabs at Jewish Americans, and you know what? It only makes them stronger, in my eyes.

[melody]

94. If yours WAS true humor, I'd take it in that light

I love Lewis Black, as I do Stewart, for the same reasons. However, their jabs at Jewish folk
are not made while subtly siding with Aryan Nationalists or something. ;-)

[tsuki]

70. You are looking at a news service controlled by Murdock, an

Australian, and Prince Al-Waleed Bin Tahal, a Saudi Prince and relative of Osama Bin Laden, and you expect them to know about American History?

Did you catch the news item that PM Howard wants the US to "stay the course" in Iraq? And what does the Saudstralian News say?

[cboy4]

2. Honest to christ, is there a chimpanzee sitting at the keyboard

typing that shit onto the screen.

I'm surprised they didn't call him a (D)

[krkaufman]

9. Howling out loud. Thanks. n/t

[No Exit]

23. Or maybe it's Sean "not even a bachelor's degree" Hannity

[trogdor]

42. I wish I could rec comments like at DailyKos.

I've been wondering about that myself.

[MADem]

50. Don't blame the chimpanzee!! He or she probably has a certificate

to do transcription and had to work hard to get it...but he or she can only type the garbage that is given over, either orally or in writing!!!! He/she is probably barely getting by on a lousy salary in NYC, keeping that head down, knowing that any 'political corrections' aren't wanted by the insane ideologues in charge, and hoping to make it through Christmas!

That said, it's an hysterical screen shot, a keeper!!!!

[colorado_ufo]

58. Garbage in, garbage out!

You nailed it. Don't shoot the messenger!

[Rose Siding]

3. LOL, Tune in for the despair, stay for the stupidity

That's what Holden said about The Corner today-

Posted by Holden_C on Wednesday, November 08 @ 13:25:33 CST

Ah, what a smorgasbord of K-Lo angst to choose from today, from screaming at Bush for praising Senator-elect Casey to agreeing with reporters that Bush is a liar. But here's my favorite.

Colorado

AP calls for Tester

Posted at 12:42 PM

AH, The Corner. I visited for the despair but I stayed for the stupidity.

http://www.first-draft.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7745&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0#home

[Skink]

4. I'd love to see Delay in that position.

[lonestarnot]

5. Oh shit!

:rofl:

[skyounkin]

6. Hahhahahahaaa

I think what they meant to write was "Hastert will not run for the 'little bitch' position" that he deserves

[Hippo_Tron]

7. LMAO "Minority Speaker"

Apparently I slept through civics class on the day they taught us about that position.

[El Fuego]

52. As we've learned from bush, it's "Constitution? Schmonstitution!" now.

[rpannier]

8. You Decide

should there be a minority speaker.

on a serious note:
Who checks for errors there?

[Tesha]

29. Apparently, a "minor intellect".

> Who checks for errors there?

Apparently, a "minor intellect".

Tesha

[Infinite Hope]

10. Blah...human error. Speaker instead of Leader. They rushed. Big deal. n/t

[w4rma]

11. FOX News is run by idiots who are also propagandists. (nt)

[Sherman A1]

15. That says it all!

[LynnTheDem]

12. Like the 3-times "Mark Foley (D)" "human error"

Faux Moos sure is "rushed" a lot.

[No Exit]

22. Excuse me... the people who perpetrate Fox are NOT human.

Therefore, they could not make a "human" error.

They could, however, make a porcine error.

[MADem]

57. Oh, please. Like it was an "honest mistake" when they called Foley a Democrat?

These clowns don't know the difference between Missouri and Minnesota.

It's not just ONE mistake, they do it all the time.

Here are a few more--just the tip of the goddamn iceberg, mind you--of some recent Faux "Honest Mistakes:"

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/05/wallace-stem-cell/
Wallace Falsely Claims Missouri Stem Cell Initiative Would Allow ‘Human Cloning’

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/25/fox-great-friends/
Fox & Friends Anchor Perpetuates Myth That Michael J. Fox Was Acting

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/oreilly-afghanistan-myth/
O’Reilly: Taliban Resurgence In Afghanistan Is A ‘Myth’

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/23/fox-socialism/
Fox News Warns Viewers Of Upcoming Socialist Revolution


http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/wallace-ignores-emails/
Chris Wallace Ignores 20,000 Emails Demanding He Ask Rice About The U.S.S. Cole

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/10/korea-nukes-good-news/
John Gibson Suggests North Korea Nuke Test ‘Balances Out The Bad News’ From Foley Scandal

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/01/hume-foley-clinton/
Hume Compares Mark Foley To President Clinton

[Lyra Silvertongue]

13. This is too wonderful

:x

[Laelth]

37. Welcome to DU!

:patriot:

:dem:

-Laelth

[tblue37]

44. Love your name.

Do you know they are making a movie out of the trilogy--and Nicole Kidman is playing Lyra's mother.

[Phillycat]

59. I love your name!!

I'm just reading the third of those books now, and I LOVE THEM LOVE THEM LOVE THEM!!!!

Welcome to DU. :hi:

[SoCalDem]

14. Hastert could be the lunchroom monitor..that's all he's qualified for

:)

[krispos42]

17. Too distracting. Food and all...

Perhaps hall monitor.

[rosesaylavee]

26. No. That's too complicated with all those

people coming and going. How about door stop?

[skyounkin]

16. fox news.................

fox news: Stupid news for stupid people!!!

[Cobalt-60]

18. It could be an error - but it isn't

FOX is Republican HQ.
The infobarons that control it will ceaselessly inflate the importance of the marginalized GOP.
I wonder how long until they use it to issue instructions directly to Republican Saboteurs.

[We_R_da_Future_1986]

67. George's Airport...

I just came back from Texas a few weeks ago, and had to fly out of Houston Intercontinental Airport. And in George's airport, there is a damn FOX NEWS STORE. Now come on ?? anybody who says fox isn't run by the Republicans is crazy!!

[namvet73]

19. They've been obvious morons for years!

I think they have their head up their ass so far, it's coming out of their mouth again and going up their ass a second time.

The very first time I tuned in to Foxnews it was before Bush. At that time I had no knowledge about them nor had I heard any opinions about them.
They had some correspondent at a remote who was saying something (not political) that I thought was totally idiotic. I thought they were morons long before I had any political knowledge of their unfair and biased tilt.

I think it was someone standing in 1" of snow in NYC and saying it was two feet or something like that. They seemed to have a huge propensity for exaggeration and sensationalism. It was like the TV version of National Enquirer.

When I found out my own mother and some siblings watched that shit, I developed a bias about my own family I never had before. I'll leave that unsaid. But, it's sad.

[Window]

20. Dayum!

Too funny.

:rofl:

[Danger Mouse]

21. 'You Decide 2006'

haha, but they're probably kicking themselves now...'Why??? Why did they decide??? Was our propaganda not good enough??'
Fox News...we lie like a rug.

[nxylas]

61. I like Stephen Colbert's version of their slogan

"We scream, you obey"

[casus belli]

24. There's nothing "minor" about the guy. He's got his own gravitational pull for Chrissakes. n/t

[Ganja Ninja]

25. Reality is a very threatening concept for some. n/t

[Felinity]

31. That's why it's not SO funny (but funny-stupid for sure)

Perception IS reality. Half of the Neocon Agenda is to commandeer this principle, and distort public perception.

Suggestion: Let's watch Faux News even closer now. While they're bleeding.

[Felinity]

33. Hey, where did my avatar go?

I'll have to upload it again later. In the meantime,


CHEERS! Celebrate!

[Swagman]

27. this has been a kick in the teeth for Faux News

Now when they attack Democrats they are attacking the majority of Americans. I look forward to their sinking ratings over the next 2 years. Watch their boss Rupert Murdoch as he "cuts and runs" from the Republicans.

Nancy Pelosi rocks !!

[Laelth]

39. FOX can do its job only when Democrats are in power.

They were vicious attack dogs against Clinton, and they'll carefully monitor the new, Democratic Congress. That's what a news organization is supposed to do, imho. What bothers me about FOX is the outright lie that they're fair and balanced. They're not. The are the official propaganda outlet of the Republican party. We need a FOX counterpart on the left.

imho ...

-Laelth

[progressoid]

28. OMG, people will actually start to use this term now.

[michaz]

32. Why we took the Senate and the House

I really do believe that Fox News is one reason why we took control. They are nasty, mean and liars. Hannity and O'Reilly bash the Dems and people all the time. People have just proven that they are extremely sick of it all. Thanks Fox. You turned out to be an asset after all!

[angry_chuck]

74. FOX SUX

Their lies spew the malfeasant distortions of elitist zealots with disregard to the harm and confusion they carry.

Buddha says...

The thought manifests as the word;
The word manifests as the deed;
The deed develops into habit;
The habit hardens into character;
So watch the thought and its ways with care,
And let it spring from love
Born of concern for all beings.

FOX SUX. They preach hate and hate America.

[Mad_Dem_X]

35. LMFAO

How pathetic are these people. It's going to be so much fun watching them in the next few weeks. :rofl:

[madinmaryland]

36. The key word is MINORITY!!!!!

Big Eddie kept reinforcing that yesterday!! They are the MINOROTY party now!!!!!

[LTR]

38. I'll see your "Minority Speaker" and raise you THIS

Fox's MacCallum said, "Look at ... Barack Obama ... he looks young, he looks healthy, he looks strong," over footage of Harold Ford Jr.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200611070018

I guess they all look alike to them, huh?

:rofl:

[Aviation Pro]

40. Hey Fux News and noted irrelevant head Rupert Ailes

Get this straight, asswipes, you have no influence anymore. There is no minority speaker and if you insist on addressing whatever RepubliCON is left as the head of your small band of criminals as such Speaker Pelosi may introduce the Fairness Doctrine and cut whatever is left of your small balls off.

[brg5001]

48. "Fux" News...love it!

I had been calling it "Faux News" but the new moniker works for me...

[cascadiance]

41. Ding Dong...

[The Animator]

45. Fox still iritates the hell out of me for calling themselves a "News" Channel

I'm not a professional journalist, I was only a college level journalist for just about a year or two. Still even someone with the slightest bit of journalism experience will recognize that what there selling is not news.


The most generous designation I could give them is an Op Ed channel/ All Right wing Op Ed All the Time. They never offer facts, they only offer the personal opinions of the hosts (which is a big, big, no no as a Real Journalist; because its a technique that scews any otherwise balanced story.) Personal Opinions are not News, Personal Opinions are Editorial... I got a serious ass-chewing from my Journalism Porfessor for making that mistake once... it only took once for it to sink in. These guys obviously never had Nancy White for intro to Journalism. I'll never forget that years ago she warned us of the potential dangers of "News Shows" like Hard Copy, and Inside Addition, because they weren't held to the same standard as Real News broadcasts, and there primary motivation was to entertain instead of inform. She said that if we let it, shows like that would replace real news, and public opinion could be very easliy swayed with shows like that.

Obviously she was right.

[Marie26]

46. So sad.

Poor Fox News, how will they survive this? Maybe it's time to embrace a liberal philosophy & hire Keith Olberman?

[angry_chuck]

75. Worst channel on the world!

[brg5001]

47. Just don't put him in charge of the sausage and beer

:silly:
The man can put away the kielbasa and pound that Old Style! ha ha

[El Fuego]

49. Too fucking funny. Just like their president, making it up as they go along.

[Joe Chi Minh]

56. Old Rupe's nose must be well and truly out of joint, after

yesterday! Let's hope the Dems can give him a nice pair of cauliflower ears to match.

Those kind of things tend to have a knock-on effect. We may be witnessing the death throes of corporatism throughout the world. Starting with the media seems the obvious priority.

[oc2002]

60. I think they meant Minority Leader, which is elected by the party.

nt.

[undeterred]

65. How about HOUSE MENS ROOM ATTENDANT?

I think Denny could handle that.

[JPZenger]

68. I got a root canal today while watching fox news for 1.5 hours

I just had a great day. I had a 1.5 hour long root canal while having to watch the Fox News Channel in the Dentist's office. I now realize that Rumsfeld is a great American.

[UrbScotty]

73. Yes he is!

:sarcasm:

[LowPhreak]

69. What IS it with people and their fucking silly nationalism??

Haven't we learned that lesson yet, or does humanity need another 83 more wars first?

Judging from this thread, it looks like the latter.

[upsidedownaussie]

76. petty nationalism and fundamentalist religion...

bringing you war and persecution since 5000 BC.

the great thing about living in several countries over the course of your life is that you realize that there are idiots everywhere . Just in some places, they're in charge.
or.. used to be...

heheheheh..

[UrbScotty]

72. Will Mark Foley (D-FL) run for the job? (nt)

[derby378]

77. Oopsie.

:rofl:

[about-time]

103. fuck faux news